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Inno - 04 Nov 2005 02:47 GMT

Selling my Nokia 6230a GSM cell phone. This is an unlocked phone that
will work with Fido, Rogers or any GSM provider worldwide (Cingular,
Orange, etc.)

Phone is triband (900, 1800, 1900). Also has:
-expandable memory (comes with two MMC memory cards)
-built-in Stereo MP3 player
-built-in Stereo FM radio
-Nokia stereo headset
-colour screen
-GPRS
-voice recorder
-Bluetooth, Infra-red connectivity
-Synchs with Outlook, etc.
etc. etc.

Terrific reception. Read reviews on Stever Punter's or Howard Chui's
site. The experts rave about this phone.

Comes with wall charger, box, manuals, headset, battery, extra
faceplates and keypad. Excellent condtion.

$250 CDN. Available in Toronto. Yonge and Bloor during bus. hours,
Beaches evenings.

Email or call 416 878 4319

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Joseph - 04 Nov 2005 15:32 GMT

>Selling my Nokia 6230a GSM cell phone. This is an unlocked phone that
>will work with Fido, Rogers or any GSM provider worldwide (Cingular,
>Orange, etc.)

It may not work properly with cingular or Rogers since it doesn't have
GSM 850.

>Phone is triband (900, 1800, 1900). Also has:
>-expandable memory (comes with two MMC memory cards)
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>
>Email or call 416 878 4319

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Inno - 10 Nov 2005 12:56 GMT

There is a lot of debate about the added value of having Rogers 850
coverage in addition to the regular Fido 1900 band (see Steve Punter's
website for his opinion). I understand that having the additional 850
band may give better coverage in some areas particularly remote rural
Ontario. On the other hand a phone without 900 will not be able to
work at all if you try to roam in other countries, e.g. Europe.

I note that Fido is selling tri-band phones now on their website
without the additional 850 band. Please check fido.ca. Also, many
Fido subscribers continue to use their original Fido 1900 phones with
no problems.

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repatch - 10 Nov 2005 22:16 GMT

> There is a lot of debate about the added value of having Rogers 850
> coverage in addition to the regular Fido 1900 band (see Steve Punter's
> website for his opinion). I understand that having the additional 850
> band may give better coverage in some areas particularly remote rural
> Ontario. On the other hand a phone without 900 will not be able to work
> at all if you try to roam in other countries, e.g. Europe.

Umm, a phone that doesn't have 900, but does have 1800 will work perfectly
fine in Europe and other countries. The coverage may not be great with
certain providers, but it will certainly work.

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Joseph - 11 Nov 2005 01:42 GMT

>> There is a lot of debate about the added value of having Rogers 850
>> coverage in addition to the regular Fido 1900 band (see Steve Punter's
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>fine in Europe and other countries. The coverage may not be great with
>certain providers, but it will certainly work.

It's generally true that many countries have 1800 as a choice of
networks or secondary networks. There are however some countries that
do not have any 1800 networks and only have 900 networks (the original
frequency for GSM.) In those countries not having the 900 band is a
definite loss that you will notice. Some eastern European countries
have no 1800 coverage.
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John N B Andrade Andrade Consulting Group Ltd - 14 Nov 2005 22:13 GMT

>>> There is a lot of debate about the added value of having Rogers 850
>>> coverage in addition to the regular Fido 1900 band (see Steve Punter's
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> definite loss that you will notice. Some eastern European countries
> have no 1800 coverage.

I use a Fido locked Sony-Ericsson P900 (tri-band 900, 1800, 1900). Because
of the elimination of the 900 MHz band on the Rogers-Fido integrated
network, the phone has become somewhat crippled, most notably it is common
during high phone traffic periods to lose voice audio (both ways) for the
first 10 to 25 seconds after pressing "send".

I am considering replacing this phone with Sony-Ericsson's P-910A which
operates on 850-1800-1900. Any comments? In which countries won't this phone
work?

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Brendan McCullough - 15 Nov 2005 05:25 GMT

John N B Andrade Andrade Consulting Group Ltd wrote:

> I use a Fido locked Sony-Ericsson P900 (tri-band 900, 1800, 1900). Because
> of the elimination of the 900 MHz band on the Rogers-Fido integrated
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> operates on 850-1800-1900. Any comments? In which countries won't this phone
> work?

Elimination of the 900 MHz band on the Rogers-Fido integrated network??
Sorry, you've been misled. Before integration Fido had only 1900 and
now Fido has access to 850 and 1900. So you haven't lost anything and
the phone hasn't been crippled. I have experimented with single and
dual band phones in BC and Alberta and there doesn't seem to be any
advantage in having access to 850.

Brendan

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johnwolmer@hotmail.com - 15 Nov 2005 16:26 GMT

>> I use a Fido locked Sony-Ericsson P900 (tri-band 900, 1800, 1900). Because
>> of the elimination of the 900 MHz band on the Rogers-Fido integrated
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> dual band phones in BC and Alberta and there doesn't seem to be any
> advantage in having access to 850.

Very Strange! the Fido tech support people - on the phone and at the Erin
Mills store - as well as Sony Ericsson Tech Support .....AND Fido Customer
Relations have all told me that the problem with my phone is due to the
switch to the integrated network which uses 850 MHz as its primary
frequency. Maybe the quality of Fido's service was better in Ontario and
Quebec than out west. The fact remains that there appears to be nothing
wrong with my phone while the network reliability has fallen precipitously.

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JF Mezei - 15 Nov 2005 07:56 GMT

John N B Andrade Andrade Consulting Group Ltd wrote:

> I use a Fido locked Sony-Ericsson P900 (tri-band 900, 1800, 1900). Because
> of the elimination of the 900 MHz band on the Rogers-Fido integrated
> network, the phone has become somewhat crippled,

There was never any 900mhs phones (at least digital) in north america.
850 and 1900 are used in north america, and 900/1800 used everywhere
else in the world (with a few exceptions here and there).

However, i think that the integration did screw up a few phones who now
had problems scanning different frequencies because I think Rogers
advertises some 850mhz channels on the 1900s network (or something like
that). During integration, Fido did announce that a few phones would not
work in the integrated network because they didn't ignore channels that
weren't in the 1900mhz band. (or something to that effect).

Note that Rogers has most of its bandwidth in 850. Fido had much more
bandwitdh in 1900 than Rogers. They may be in the process of truly
combining the networks (as opposed to just having Fido towers pretend
they were Rogers towers) so you may be stuck in areas where there isn't
much 1900 coverage.

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