where can i get info about this "smart ring " service. None is available
from fido web site.

You don't really have a clue do you??

A few corrections:

-Bell and Telus have Hybrid GSM phones coming to the market which make them
more powerfull  and offer more coverage than any standalone GSM phone now.
These new handsets DO take SIM cards.

- There are 1, 2 & 3 Year contracts

- There was network expasion but not as fast as rogers or fido because they
already cover 95% of the popualated canada. They still have more coverage
than Rogers.

- They do offer Landline-Mobile specials

-Evenings can start 6pm, 8pm or 9pm

- Customer service are best in north america.

- Telus beat or ties at the top spot in best North American Wireless
Carriers.

- #TAXI works with everyone, Desktop SMS ... ( works just as well as WEB sms
no? ), Fax service does exist with telus , but on MIKE network.

- Fido monthly only offers per second billing. Everyone else (including
rogers) bills by the minute now.

- Bell and Telus offer packages with All incoming calls free just as Fido
and Rogers does.

As for the rest of your statements, I agree with you.

Cheers,
DK

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From: "Happy Customer" <Happy@nospam.com>
Subject: ' BELL AND TELUS'  SUCK
Date: Thursday, January 05, 2006 10:56 PM

Just my opinion, you are welcome to add your comments:

BELL AND TELUS:
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- Don't use Sim Cards (Can only use their phones in USA / Canada and maybe 1
or 2 countries

- 3 Year contracts, No Free Phones till contract is over

- $20 per month to break contract, no cap   (so to cancel 2 years, $20 x 24
= $480)

- No Customer Service ... well they have agents, but try to get help    LOL

- They charge 10-20% more for the same amount of minutes than Rogers or Fido

- No network expansion in the last 5 years

- No discount if you have a Land Line or Multiple services with them

- Evenings start at 8PM  (I'm in bed by then ..... well not really)

- Per Minute Billing only

ROGERS AND FIDO:
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- Free phones at 50% of Contract  (1 or 2 years)   I usually get 1 free
phone every year

- If you cancel, it's $20 / month   MAX  $200

- 24/7 Customer Service (You may have to use their emergency night lines but
they will help you)

- They use SIM Cards (Like the rest of the world)  so your phone will work
everywhere on the Planet

- Always first with new features,  like Guess that tune, #TAXI, SMS to
Landline,  Desktop SMS,  Fax Server in the Phone

- FIDO lets you port you Hone Phone Number *or Smartring*  so if your phone
number is 416-522-2110
and your Smart Ring is 416-522-2111   FIDO will let you have  522-2111 on
your Mobile

- Network always expanding

- Huge Savings if you have several services with them

- Evenings start at 6PM (That's when I'm stuck in Traffic and need to use my
phone

- Per second billing, First Minute Free (incoming) available

Unfortunately for Fido/Rogers customers Telus has more coverage available
in most rural areas such as Lillooet.  My sister has a house up there and
I cant use my Rogers cell at all.  :-(

You can request a 1, 2 or 3 year contract.

Depends on the plan -- Rogers is offering me significantly less then my
previous TELUS Mike plan, when you factor in the cost of calling
features and everything else (In other words, the final $ on the bill,
vs my actual usage)

Not true at all.  5 years ago Bell had no network at all in the West,
and TELUS was still tweaking the network after the Clearnet
merger/buyout.

Not between wireline and cellular, no.  However, multiple cellular
services could get you some perks.

This depends on your plan -- Rogers too.

Just like Rogers?

To bad Rogers coverage sucks.

Alot of people here are misinformed.

For starters all the cell companies have very similar coverage. I've used
phones from all providers and obtained similar results; certain areas are
provider specific. The difference really isn't in the provider at this point
in time, it's with the phone you are using. It used to be that Telus/Bell
had the best coverage in the ottawa-gatineau area, however after the
rogers/fido merger their network expanded.

It's my recommendation that for regular cell phone use, meaning voice
transmission, Telus and Fido seemed to be the best bang for your buck,
either provider offers a plan 25 per month get's you 100 anytime/1000
evenings(starting at 7pm) and weekends/ unlimited incoming calls.

As for the business professional looking for data transmission, primarily
Bell, however Rogers has opened up to this market. So that means all you
people wanting to email and conduct business outside of the office on
blackberry, palm, hp, utstarcom, as a first choice go for Bell, they have
the most reliable data trans, and best prices. All four providers are now
stocking the EVDO smartphones, so you will be able to do those updates
necessary to synchronise your phones with sharepoint services and install
the latest microsoft communications packages. The UTSTARCOM model is only
sold through telus right now but rogers has the IPAQ, Bell has the audiovox
and the treo solutions, and fido has the razr v3c which unfortunately for
all intents and purposes isn't a smartphone.

I'm currently with fido. I'm using the Sony Ericsson Z520a. It's a quadband
phone, with bluetooth, IR, camera, and a bunch of other features. probably
the best bang for your buck as far as world phones go. The reception on this
phone is really quite superb, as is the sound quality. It comes with a
headset, and two interchangeable faceplates with matching battery doors.
Future shop has a limited sale for just 29 bucks, and they throw in the SE
bluetooth headset.

anyways...