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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / Fido / September 2003Nokia 6340i - Switching to Analog mode
Hi, I'm trying to find the way to manually switch from GSM to AMPS mode on my 6340i phone. Is there not a way to do it? Will it only switch to AMPS mode when there is no GSM around? Thanks, Stephane. Unfortunately, for some odd reason, Nokia didn't added an option on this phone to force the analog mode. You can force to switch back to digital by power cycling the phone (if there is digital coverage, of course). The technical department confirmed me that they made a request to Nokia to add this feature in a future firmware, but we haven't had any news from Nokia on this matter yet. ~Deep Blue~ > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Thanks, > Stephane. Thanks Deep Blue... Also, I noticed that the 6340i can also act as a modem when connected to the computer with IRDA or data cable. Can I not utilize this on the Fido GSM network? I tried it out, but it disconnects me during the modem handshake? When the phone is in Analog mode, the phone/modem don't even dial out. If this is blocked, what are the technical reasons behind not allowing this feature to be used on the GSM network? Or is it strictly a financial reason that we can't utilize this feature? Thanks, Stephane > Unfortunately, for some odd reason, Nokia didn't added an option on this > phone to force the analog mode. You can force to switch back to digital by [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >> Thanks, >> Stephane. The 6340i only supports the old-fashioned data way which is called CSD. Fido's support for this service has been officially discontinued for a few years now, and they are slowing removing equipment as they are not replacing faulty equipment. The reason is that it wasn't worth it financially as CSD is very slow (9600 bauds) and has been replaced by a better, faster technology called GPRS. Most recent phones have GPRS support and Fido has been offering the GPRS service since 2001 if I remember correctly. I might be wrong, but as far as I know on the analog doesn't support any type of data connection. ~Deep Blue~ > Thanks Deep Blue... > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > >> Thanks, > >> Stephane. > I might be wrong, but as far as I know on the analog doesn't support any > type of data connection. Yes and no, You can but you have to connect through the voice channel just like dialup, but AMPS is restricted to 9600. So pretty much no real point in doing it. Unless ou really really have to send an email :P. Oh and you can't do it via the phone. You must use the phone as a modem and you need a PC for the rest. DK > The 6340i only supports the old-fashioned data way which is called CSD. > Fido's support for this service has been officially discontinued for a few > years now, and they are slowing removing equipment as they are not replacing > faulty equipment. The reason is that it wasn't worth it financially as CSD > is very slow (9600 bauds) and has been replaced by a better, faster > technology called GPRS. TECHNICALLY faster, your actually speeds may vary, a great deal as recent experimentation has shown, that is what was nice about CSD, at least you were pretty much guaranteed to always have 9600. > I might be wrong, but as far as I know on the analog doesn't support any > type of data connection. You are correct, at least with native support. Ironically, given the right equipment, with an analog phone you could theoretically get speeds almost as fast as GPRS! :) TTYL I have not measured it and I don't know where you are located, but I definitely have much better speeds than 9600. It does feel very similar to 24 to 28.8, not not as slow as 9.6 I am in Vancouver and have used it in Chemainus (with very careful location of the cell phone to get the Ladysmith signal) and Calgary. Andrew >>The 6340i only supports the old-fashioned data way which is called CSD. >>Fido's support for this service has been officially discontinued for a few [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > right equipment, with an analog phone you could theoretically get speeds > almost as fast as GPRS! :) TTYL Toronto area, and Markham area (just north of Toronto). Took MINUTES to send a 4kB email, other web activity was equally as slow. Downloading content was just as slow over a ppp session, didn't get hard numbers (after all, every kB costs) but the performance was easily worse then the 9600bps I was using in Europe a couple months ago. TTYL > I have not measured it and I don't know where you are located, but I > definitely have much better speeds than 9600. It does feel very similar [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > right equipment, with an analog phone you could theoretically get speeds > > almost as fast as GPRS! :) TTYL > I might be wrong, but as far as I know on the analog doesn't support any > type of data connection. Actually, you can get CSD "like" connection on analogue. You need a real dialup mondem connected to the phone and the phone then acts as a POTS, with the caveat that the line quality is not as good as a real landline. There used to be modems whose default settings were designed for such uses (higher error rated permitted, lower maximum speed negotiated, and don't-discopnnect if carrier is not heard for a second or two). I was once able to send a fax from my PDA through my 6190 with an acoustic coupler strategically placed over the 6190. (but had to dial manually, of course). As far as Fido dismantling its CSD infrastructure, I am not sure that they would really be doing this. I would hazard a guess that existing roaming agreements may require Fido to keep it available for some time to come. (then again, with its bankrupcy, not sure if any agreements have been kept). So we are back to the good old Fido who tells customers they don't have CSD when they in fact have it :-) > As far as Fido dismantling its CSD infrastructure, I am not sure that they > would really be doing this. I would hazard a guess that existing roaming > agreements may require Fido to keep it available for some time to come. (then > again, with its bankrupcy, not sure if any agreements have been kept). > So we are back to the good old Fido who tells customers they don't have CSD > when they in fact have it :-) It's still available but not everywhere. As I wrote, they aren't removing equipment on purpose, but if a piece of equipment is broken or faulty, they won't replace it unless it only requires a minor repair. ~Deep Blue~ > As far as Fido dismantling its CSD infrastructure, I am not sure that they > would really be doing this. I would hazard a guess that existing roaming > agreements may require Fido to keep it available for some time to come. (then > again, with its bankrupcy, not sure if any agreements have been kept). FIDO went bankrupt.. I still get the bill every month :-[ > So we are back to the good old Fido who tells customers they don't have CSD > when they in fact have it :-) And.. you.. to.. remain the same :-] |
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