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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / Fido / June 2003Fido Prepaid WAP Access
Well, was wondering if anybody else has tried it. I enabled it on my profile this morning (took about a minute), and have noticed a few "oddities". First, it will not load web pages on my personal web server at all, it always responds with error 403 (which means forbidden). The interesting thing here is that it never even TRIES to get a page from my webserver (shown by my logs), so it appears Fido's gateway is holding things back. Has Fido restricted WAP use to only the sites on it's webpage? I've tried other cases and it always reports either the website is not responding (it does on my home machine...) or the website is too large? Anybody know if NON wap access will work, i.e. can I connect my PDA to the phone and browse the web through it? Thanks for any answers. TTYL It's WAP only, so no general GPRS access. Are you hosting and trying to access a regular, HTML web page? Or a WAP page? If so, in which language? With WAP you can obviously only access WAP pages, not web pages. Moreover, the page must be written in WML (which is the most common language). A WAP page written in HDML won't work. Also, the current limit for the WAP is 3 Kb/page. If you're trying to access a WAP page that you coded yourself (well, I guess since you're hosting it) be sure there's no coding error... WML is a lot less forgiving on syntax errors than HTML. Finally, be sure you web server carries the correct mime-types for WML pages. ~Deep Blue~ > Well, was wondering if anybody else has tried it. I enabled it on my > profile this morning (took about a minute), and have noticed a few [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Thanks for any answers. TTYL > It's WAP only, so no general GPRS access. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > less forgiving on syntax errors than HTML. Finally, be sure you web server > carries the correct mime-types for WML pages. As I said, no request was ever seen by my web server, Fido was giving me the "error 403". I must say i was excited when I first started to try it but with these limitations it's pretty much useless, if all I can do is go to the links Fido supplies I certainly won't be using it, a shame. > As I said, no request was ever seen by my web server, Fido was > giving me the "error 403". > > I must say i was excited when I first started to try it but with > these limitations it's pretty much useless, if all I can do is go to > the links Fido supplies I certainly won't be using it, a shame. You're not restricted to the links given by Fido. But you didn't answered my question: Are you trying to access a WML or a HTML page? ~Deep Blue~ > > As I said, no request was ever seen by my web server, Fido was > > giving me the "error 403". [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > You're not restricted to the links given by Fido. Then why does every link I've tried either return one of the following: server timeout, forbidden, no dns, all are sites that work fine on another machine. > But you didn't answered my question: Are you trying to access a WML or a > HTML page? Both, according to the emulator from Ericsson both should work. Are you saying Fido's gateway doesn't do conversion on the fly? > Both, according to the emulator from Ericsson both should work. > Are you saying Fido's gateway doesn't do conversion on the fly? I never heard about a WAP gateway converting HTML pages into WAP pages. Especially not "on the fly", it would be quite heavy on a server as the WAP gateway already compile the WML script into a binary. Do you have any links on this? Let's do some basics on WAP. When you request a page, the request is sent to the WAP gateway. The WAP gateway gets the WAP page, scripted in WML, compiles it and then send it back as a ready-to-run, binary format to the mobile phone. Mainly because mobile phones used to be not powerful enough to compile code on the fly (and still aren't powerful enough in most cases). WML is the standard WAP scripting language. It's a kind of mix between HTML and XML. A very basic WAP page would look like this: <?xml version="1.0"?> <!DOCTYPE wml PUBLIC "-//WAPFORUM//DTD WML 1.2//EN" "http://www.wapforum.org/DTD/wml12.dtd"> <wml> <card> <p> Hello world. </p> </card> </wml> On your webserver, you need some MIME-types to serve WML content: # WAP MIME-types for Apache AddType text/vnd.wap.wml .wml AddType text/vnd.wap.wmlscript .wmls AddType image/vnd.wap.wbmp .bmp AddType application/vnd.wap.wmlc .wmlc AddType application/vnd.wap.wmlscriptc .wmlsc # End of WAP MIME-types If you don't have those, it will never work. Again, a current limition is 3 kbytes per page. But 3 kbytes of WAP data is quite big for most WAP applications. Try some well known WAP sites such as http://wap.howardforums.com/ or http://esato.com/ ~Deep Blue~ There are many products that do this, here is one .. http://www.aveaccess.com/modules/wapgateway.htm <cut> > I never heard about a WAP gateway converting HTML pages into WAP pages. > Especially not "on the fly", it would be quite heavy on a server as the WAP > gateway already compile the WML script into a binary. Do you have any links > on this? <cut > On your webserver, you need some MIME-types to serve WML content: OK, how many more times am I going to have to say this: THE REQUEST NEVER GETS TO MY WEBSERVER. There, maybe now you see the problem, I have no opportunity to serve the "right" content, the request is never seen, Fido is blocking it somewhere. For the record the Ericsson WAP emulator works fine with ALL the sites I've tried to visit... >It's WAP only, so no general GPRS access. I'm on prepaid as well. How do you enable WAP access on the phone. I have a T200. Hello, > >It's WAP only, so no general GPRS access. > > I'm on prepaid as well. How do you enable WAP access on the phone. I > have a T200. Call 611 and ask to enable WAP access for your account. > Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Call 611 and ask to enable WAP access for your account. Has anyone tried connecting a data cable and making a "normal" connection with a computer? Thanks, TTYL absolutely... unless you're on prepaid. > > Hello, > > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Has anyone tried connecting a data cable and making a "normal" > connection with a computer? Thanks, TTYL |
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