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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / Fido / October 2003City Fido to hit the streets in Vancouver
http://www.microcell.ca/en/04/index.asp?id=04&sid=01&contentID=2623 J  SignatureJustin F. Knotzke jknotzke@shampoo.ca http://www.shampoo.ca "Let's go first class... the whole bag." - P.E.T Incredible!!! :-))) It was about time somebody did it! My only concern is that the capacity of Fido's network in Vancouver may well be overwhelmed if many people sign up for this service. > http://www.microcell.ca/en/04/index.asp?id=04&sid=01&contentID=2623 When they say that users keep access to 411, is that Microcell's 411 or is that Bell/Telus's 411 ? (eg: if you use 411, do they charge you the same rate as Telus/Bell, or do they charge you the more expensive Microcell rates ? I think that they should only charge the $50 setup fee if you wish to maintain your current landline number. The "unlimited local call" is neat. But the 400 minutes @$40 package isn't really that different, is it ? And that one doesn't have a $50 setup fee. Lets not forget that once you add called id, voice mail etc, your bill will be $45. Cheaper than having both a landline and cell phone will all the features, but still more expensive than a landline only. Nevertheless, it is a very good move, except for the $50 setup fee. Does anyone know if/when Fido plans to make this available in other cities ? > > http://www.microcell.ca/en/04/index.asp?id=04&sid=01&contentID=2623 > > When they say that users keep access to 411, is that Microcell's 411 or is > that Bell/Telus's 411 ? (eg: if you use 411, do they charge you the same rate > as Telus/Bell, or do they charge you the more expensive Microcell rates ? don't know > I think that they should only charge the $50 setup fee if you wish to maintain > your current landline number. There is NO system access fee with this plan > The "unlimited local call" is neat. But the 400 minutes @$40 package isn't > really that different, is it ? And that one doesn't have a $50 setup fee. 400 and unlimited= no difference? > Lets not forget that once you add called id, voice mail etc, your bill will be > $45. Cheaper than having both a landline and cell phone will all the features, > but still more expensive than a landline only. of course it should be more expensive than both. you're basically able to use one product where you would traditionally use two. > Nevertheless, it is a very good move, except for the $50 setup fee. Does > anyone know if/when Fido plans to make this available in other cities ? > 400 and unlimited= no difference? If your a adult male, correct. One doesn't spend that much time on the phone every month. (unless you work at home, answering support calls, or doing telemarketing, but then you would need a landline to make sure you don't run out of battery during the day). But I guess if you have a teenage daughter then 400 minutes aren't enough. > of course it should be more expensive than both. you're basically able to > use one product where you would traditionally use two. But consider the market when one would have only a single phone. Fido doesn't (yet) compete on that market at that price. It will be most interesting to see what happens with Sprint. Remember that Sprint offers a package that offers both landline and Fido. <quote who= JF Mezei email=jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com/>: >> 400 and unlimited= no difference? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > But I guess if you have a teenage daughter then 400 minutes aren't enough. 400 / 30 = 00:13:18 a day. C'mon JF, please tell me you talk more then that on average per day!. My cell is my only phone. I have a landline but its for ADSL only. I am sure I am in the 1000 min range. > But consider the market when one would have only a single phone. Fido doesn't > (yet) compete on that market at that price. > > It will be most interesting to see what happens with Sprint. Remember that > Sprint offers a package that offers both landline and Fido. Its $65.00 a month for 400 mins plus the landline, IIRC. Not a half bad deal either but this new 40 buck plan kicks. Fido can cast this anyway they like. I see it one way: yap all you want for 40 bucks. I like it. J SignatureJustin F. Knotzke jknotzke@shampoo.ca http://www.shampoo.ca "Let's go first class... the whole bag." - P.E.T > 400 / 30 = 00:13:18 a day. C'mon JF, please tell me you talk more then > that on average per day!. My cell is my only phone. I have a landline but its > for ADSL only. I am sure I am in the 1000 min range. To get a good deal on a phone I signed up for 3 months on the 200 minute plan. So far, for the two months I've had the phone, I've got about 30 minutes used, over TWO months, and that's me being "reckless" with my usage. All my correspondance these days is through electronic means: ICQ, email, SMS, etc. I pretty much only use the phone these days for the "I'll be home in 30 minutes" type of calls. TTYL > All my correspondance these days is through electronic means: > ICQ, email, SMS, etc. I pretty much only use the phone these days for > the "I'll be home in 30 minutes" type of calls. TTYL dude you are from the future! > > All my correspondance these days is through electronic means: > > ICQ, email, SMS, etc. I pretty much only use the phone these days for > > the "I'll be home in 30 minutes" type of calls. TTYL > > dude you are from the future! Perhaps, but I'm not the only one like that. I personally "blame" my "lack of phone usage" to having done customer service over the phone for a computer company for a summer. After that experience I just don't like the telephone anymore... :) TTYL Which province do you live in? I'd really like to get an extra phone line for DSL service only but wasn't aware that Bell offered this. > I have a landline but its for ADSL only. <quote who= Jon Miron email=jon@localhost.netxero.com/>: > Which province do you live in? I'd really like to get an extra phone line > for DSL service only but wasn't aware that Bell offered this. There may be a misunderstanding. My DSL only landline is just a regular phone line. I just don't plug the phone in. However, on can.internet.highspeed someone recently stated that if you get a regular line, subscribe to a DSL service, then cancel the phone line your DSL will still work. No idea if this is true or not.. J SignatureJustin F. Knotzke jknotzke@shampoo.ca http://www.shampoo.ca "Let's go first class... the whole bag." - P.E.T > <quote who= Jon Miron email=jon@localhost.netxero.com/>: > > Which province do you live in? I'd really like to get an extra phone line [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > No idea if this is true or not.. It is possible that this is true, however Bell won't OFFICIALLY allow it to happen, it's possible Bell might "notice" tomorrow and cancel the service. TTYL > There may be a misunderstanding. My DSL only landline is just a regular > phone line. I just don't plug the phone in. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > No idea if this is true or not.. I've read people having success using this method BUT i've also read others who say that it will only work temporarily ... until the telephone company "futzes" around or switches something to accomodate a new phone subscriber. Go Go Gadget Justin F. Knotzke <jknotzke@shampoo.ca>: > 400 / 30 = 00:13:18 a day. C'mon JF, please tell me you talk more then > that on average per day!. My cell is my only phone. I have a landline but its > for ADSL only. I am sure I am in the 1000 min range. Now this really burns my britches too. I have a landline as well, but it's only for ADSL. Since Rogers customers can get highspeed cable internet without getting cable TV, why is it that the CRTC is up Bell's a.s about this too? I've got friends that have changed their local phone provider over to Sprint, and lost their ADSL as a result -- what politician do I need to bribe to make this idiocy go away? SignatureRob.Russell@Canada.Com, Unicorn of Usenet & Bastard of Bandwidth "If my son wants to be a pimp when he grows up, that's fine with me. I hope he's a good one and enjoys it and doesn't get caught. I'll support him in this. But if he wants to be a network administrator, he's out of the house and not part of my family." Steve Wozniak, http://www.woz.org >Go Go Gadget Justin F. Knotzke <jknotzke@shampoo.ca>: > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >it's only for ADSL. Since Rogers customers can get highspeed cable >internet without getting cable TV, In Ontario there's a $10.00 additional fee for non-cable subscribers. > >Go Go Gadget Justin F. Knotzke <jknotzke@shampoo.ca>: > > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > In Ontario there's a $10.00 additional fee for non-cable subscribers. Ask Bell what fee they charge for getting an ADSL connection on a phone line without their local service? The answer? It's a trick question, Bell won't allow that situation to occur (normally). TTYL <quote who= JF Mezei email=jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com/>: > When they say that users keep access to 411, is that Microcell's 411 or is > that Bell/Telus's 411 ? (eg: if you use 411, do they charge you the same rate > as Telus/Bell, or do they charge you the more expensive Microcell rates ? Dunno. What does it do now? > The "unlimited local call" is neat. But the 400 minutes @$40 package isn't > really that different, is it ? And that one doesn't have a $50 setup fee. How do you figure that 400 minutes is the same as unlimited calling? I don't plan on ditching my landline but I sure like a package that allows me to make all the local calling I want for $40 bucks. > Nevertheless, it is a very good move, except for the $50 setup fee. Does > anyone know if/when Fido plans to make this available in other cities ? I've only heard that it will roll out to other cities. I guess more info will be up on the 9th. What does interest me is the name Fido City. Kinda close to City Phone no? J SignatureJustin F. Knotzke jknotzke@shampoo.ca http://www.shampoo.ca "Let's go first class... the whole bag." - P.E.T > > http://www.microcell.ca/en/04/index.asp?id=04&sid=01&contentID=2623 > > When they say that users keep access to 411, is that Microcell's 411 or is > that Bell/Telus's 411 ? (eg: if you use 411, do they charge you the same rate > as Telus/Bell, or do they charge you the more expensive Microcell rates ? It's $1 I believe to call 411. > I think that they should only charge the $50 setup fee if you wish to maintain > your current landline number. The $50 in some cases is cheaper than than what the landline providers charge to get started up. > The "unlimited local call" is neat. But the 400 minutes @$40 package isn't > really that different, is it ? And that one doesn't have a $50 setup fee. Hmm..right! Some people talk a lot, most people actually. > Lets not forget that once you add called id, voice mail etc, your bill will be > $45. Cheaper than having both a landline and cell phone will all the features, > but still more expensive than a landline only. Your local calling area gets extended when you use this city phone, don't you think it's worth being more expensive? > Nevertheless, it is a very good move, except for the $50 setup fee. Does > anyone know if/when Fido plans to make this available in other cities ? The $50 is needed, there is no system access fee. It's just like signing up for landline, you pay a setup fee. They plan to make it available to other cities if it's successful. And do you realize the other carries charge an activation fee, for going on a monthly plan? And about the Sprint thing, Sprint shouldn't feel bad about this. This plan doesn't suit everyone, not everyone stays in one place..someone might travel to the Vancouver Island or whistler, or somewhere out of local calling zone. If this happens, they'll be charged 20 cents plus 10 cents LD (if applicable). Not everyone wants to give up their landline, and not everyone wants to keep their landline and pay $40 for a plan, and not put the minutes to use. $44.95/$64.95 is good, it bundles your landline and cell phone, while giving you free features, they get 5 cent LD rates in Canada and the US and much more. They don't suit everyone..so one might be better for one person..and the other might be better for another person. Wow, very neat, unfortunately some of us use DSL (and won't even consider cable) so a landline will have to remain, for the time being... TTYL > http://www.microcell.ca/en/04/index.asp?id=04&sid=01&contentID=2623 > > J Hi! A couple of years ago, I've seen a device in which you plug your cell phone and your home line phone entry. This way, you would be able to distribute your cell phone to all the house's phones. It worked with a Nokia 6190, I believe. Anyone knows something like that ? > http://www.microcell.ca/en/04/index.asp?id=04&sid=01&contentID=2623 > > J Ya I remember seeing that device...it looks like a desktop charger, doubles as one. You plug your phone into the back of it, and you can use that phone to make calls using your cellular line, you just have to press # after the number to tell the unit to "send" the call. i can't remember the name of the product but it was only available for 5190 and 6190...can anyone remember this thing? > Hi! > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > > > J > Ya I remember seeing that device...it looks like a desktop charger, > doubles as one. You plug your phone into the back of it, and you can [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >> >> Anyone knows something like that ? It's called CellSocket http://www.cellsocket.com/ It appears that it works with all Nokia digital models from the 5100/6100/7100 series. Cheers, Gabe >> Ya I remember seeing that device...it looks like a desktop charger, >> doubles as one. You plug your phone into the back of it, and you can [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > >Gabe Also Nokia 6310i, 6360. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To send an email reply send to GSMthemobilestandard (@) yahoo.com Great! > > Ya I remember seeing that device...it looks like a desktop charger, > > doubles as one. You plug your phone into the back of it, and you can [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Gabe >A couple of years ago, I've seen a device in which you plug your cell >phone and your home line phone entry. This way, you would be able to >distribute your cell phone to all the house's phones. It worked with >a Nokia 6190, I believe. > >Anyone knows something like that ? CellSocket <http://cellsocket.com> There was also a unit called "Vox2", but I believe they've gone out of business. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To send an email reply send to GSMthemobilestandard (@) yahoo.com I couldn't find anything about my incoming calls - are they included in the unlimited local calls or are they deducted somehow from your minutes? > http://www.microcell.ca/en/04/index.asp?id=04&sid=01&contentID=2623 > > J *sigh* It's unlimited local calling within the city zone. So it's unlimited whether you send or receive. I thought that was a given..since you don't actually get any bundled minutes..it's just unlimited calling. > I couldn't find anything about my incoming calls - are they included in the > unlimited local calls or are they deducted somehow from your minutes? > > > http://www.microcell.ca/en/04/index.asp?id=04&sid=01&contentID=2623 > > > > J |
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