How to exploit Telus and Rogers offers?

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Jimbo - 18 Oct 2003 17:21 GMT

I've got a couple of old Fido phones lying around unused and also a couple
of SIM's I've picked up along the way. I'm thinking of going to a Rogers
booth, handing over my old, unused Fido phone along with dead SIM, taking
their replacement phone and low end plan and giving the phone to my kid.
Later on, it could be unlocked and switched to Fido. Other than the ethics,
is there any obvious flaw in this plan?

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JF Mezei - 18 Oct 2003 18:56 GMT

> booth, handing over my old, unused Fido phone along with dead SIM, taking
> their replacement phone and low end plan and giving the phone to my kid.

> is there any obvious flaw in this plan?

Telus and AT&T want to see your bill and will match whatever plan you have on
your bill. So if you have a high end plan, you can't give your son a low end plan.

Secondly, it is very possible that Telus and AT&T will call Fido to verify
that your account has been cancelled. I doubt that they could cancel your
account with just your bill since Fido will ask them personal questions about
yourself to confirm identity.

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TheJouster - 18 Oct 2003 22:27 GMT

An unlocked Telus phone still wont work on the Microcell Network

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Jimbo - 20 Oct 2003 01:21 GMT

> An unlocked Telus phone still wont work on the Microcell Network

Correct. Why is why I said I'd go to a Rogers booth :) And yes I know the
subject is How to exploit Telus and Rogers.

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Dimitris Kiamilis - 20 Oct 2003 15:12 GMT

Telus will accept Prepaid or Month to Month customers, so they won't won't
ask for a bill if its a prepaid account.

What they will ask is to test of the phone works. Meaning they will try to
make a call, or at least test the *46 to see if they're capable of getting
into the top up menu.

Only then will it be accepted.

Not sure about Rogers

Regards,
DK

> I've got a couple of old Fido phones lying around unused and also a couple
> of SIM's I've picked up along the way. I'm thinking of going to a Rogers
> booth, handing over my old, unused Fido phone along with dead SIM, taking
> their replacement phone and low end plan and giving the phone to my kid.
> Later on, it could be unlocked and switched to Fido. Other than the ethics,
> is there any obvious flaw in this plan?

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JF Mezei - 20 Oct 2003 18:54 GMT

> What they will ask is to test of the phone works. Meaning they will try to
> make a call, or at least test the *46 to see if they're capable of getting
> into the top up menu.

What is *46 ?????

If Telus insists that the Fido phone must still be in working condition, then
when/how is the customer supposed to cancel the Fido account and make damned
sure the phone is no longer functional before giving it to a stranger ?

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Steve Punter - 20 Oct 2003 19:42 GMT

Before you hand your GSM phone over to a stranger, impose a SIM lock code.
They will be unable to use the SIM unless they know the code, and if they
enter an incorrect code more than 5 times (I think that's the number) the
SIM will then require the PUK code to recover. If they enter the PUK wrong X
number of times, the SIM becomes useless (permanently).

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Group Special Mobile - 20 Oct 2003 23:58 GMT

>What is *46 ?????

The same thing as 611 or dialing 1-888-481-FIDO.

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