Any Vancouver Cityfone customers here?

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*richmac* - 02 Dec 2003 17:41 GMT

I read somewhere that Cityfone uses the same technology as fido and
therefore should be good with GSM phones.

I have a GSM phone which I tried with a Cityfone SIM card but it doesn't
work.

Any Cityfone customer with GSM phone here?

Rich

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repatch - 02 Dec 2003 18:55 GMT

Sounds like your phone is locked, where did you get it from? TTYL

> I read somewhere that Cityfone uses the same technology as fido and
> therefore should be good with GSM phones.
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>
> Rich

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JF Mezei - 02 Dec 2003 23:12 GMT

> I read somewhere that Cityfone uses the same technology as fido and
> therefore should be good with GSM phones.

Cityphone *is* Fido. It is a package you can get from Fido.

> I have a GSM phone which I tried with a Cityfone SIM card but it doesn't
> work.

Your handset must not only be GSM, but also 1900mhz, and more importantly not
locked to another network. In north america, the networks lock a phone to
accept only a sim card from their network in order to prevent the subsidy they
give from going to another network.
(eg: when you buy a $100 handset from network-A, network A may have spent $300
to subsidize the handset and it doesn't want you leaving A to go to B where A
could have to bear the cost of subsidy and B get your monthly revenus).

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repatch - 03 Dec 2003 00:04 GMT

> > I read somewhere that Cityfone uses the same technology as fido and
> > therefore should be good with GSM phones.
>
> Cityphone *is* Fido. It is a package you can get from Fido.

Umm NO, Cityfone is a seperate company reselling Microcell's network.
http://www.cityfone.net. TTYL

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Deep - 03 Dec 2003 00:46 GMT

CityFido is Fido. Cityfone is different.

Deep

> > I read somewhere that Cityfone uses the same technology as fido and
> > therefore should be good with GSM phones.
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> to subsidize the handset and it doesn't want you leaving A to go to B where A
> could have to bear the cost of subsidy and B get your monthly revenus).

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JF Mezei - 03 Dec 2003 01:39 GMT

> CityFido is Fido. Cityfone is different.

Oops. My mistake. The mention of "Vancouver" and "City" immediatly made me
think of Fido's new offering in Vancouver.

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Lee - 05 Dec 2003 21:23 GMT

> > CityFido is Fido. Cityfone is different.
>
> Oops. My mistake. The mention of "Vancouver" and "City" immediatly made me
> think of Fido's new offering in Vancouver.

There are various "locks". I have a T18Z which was locked to Microcels
network. It would work with my old Fido SIM and my CityFone SIM. I
just got a new V60i through Fido and it won't work with my old
CityFone SIM. I guess they used to just lock them to the network, now
they lock them to the provider. However, unlocking is not that
expensive, over in England there were lots of places doing it for 10
pounds, pretty much what you'll pay here. It makes sense if you plan
on selling the phone or using it with a more economical pay-as-you-go
SIM overseas.
L.

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Group Special Mobile - 03 Dec 2003 01:55 GMT

> I read somewhere that Cityfone uses the same technology as fido and
>> therefore should be good with GSM phones.
>
>Cityphone *is* Fido. It is a package you can get from Fido.

Nope. Cityphone is a *Microcell Connexions* network along with Simpro
and Sears. Fido is the principal Microcell brand that uses the
Microcell network.

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