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Problems with SMS overseas ?

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radusam - 10 Dec 2003 21:21 GMT
For almost 3 weeks now, I'm no longer able to send SMSes to Orange in
Romania and TIM in Italy. I use to preffix each SMS with the "111" command,
but all I receive (after 3 days) is ...status:EXPIRED.
Could this be related to Fido, or is tehere something wrong with my phone? I
used this service in the past 18 months and have had success with both
sending and receiving (including these foreign networks). SMS still works
fine on Fido network from my phone.
V. Nikolic - 11 Dec 2003 02:28 GMT
Well, as long as you use standard GSM forma
(+_countrycode_networkcode_number) you should be fine. I use overseas SMS
all the time and have little problem. MAybe there is an issue with the
overseas network you are sending messages to.

> For almost 3 weeks now, I'm no longer able to send SMSes to Orange in
> Romania and TIM in Italy. I use to preffix each SMS with the "111" command,
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> sending and receiving (including these foreign networks). SMS still works
> fine on Fido network from my phone.
Ototin - 11 Dec 2003 04:37 GMT
>For almost 3 weeks now, I'm no longer able to send SMSes to Orange in
>Romania and TIM in Italy. I use to preffix each SMS with the "111" command,
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>sending and receiving (including these foreign networks). SMS still works
>fine on Fido network from my phone.

The problem is at the receiving end. Have you tried sending to a
different cellular phone number? According to
http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/roa_romr.shtml Fido and Orange
in Romania are roaming partners, therefore SMS should work between the
two.

TIM in Italy is also a roaming partner of Fido,
http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/roa_romr.shtml
radusam - 11 Dec 2003 15:11 GMT
I tried for several numbers on Orange and no success. I can send to Connex
network, also in Romania. This is happening for 3 weeks now, before SMS
worked fine both ways. I'm still able to receive SMS from Orange Romania.
Could that be the "implementation" of the french model on romanian network
(i.e. blocking SMS from foreign networks) ???

> The problem is at the receiving end. Have you tried sending to a
> different cellular phone number? According to
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> TIM in Italy is also a roaming partner of Fido,
> http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/roa_romr.shtml
Nobody - 17 Dec 2003 07:33 GMT
The fact that Orange and Fido are roaming partners, doesn't mean it will
work.

For example, T-Mobile UK is a roaming partner of Fido, but it's been
confirmed that Fido for some reason is on their SMS blacklist. Go figure.

> >For almost 3 weeks now, I'm no longer able to send SMSes to Orange in
> >Romania and TIM in Italy. I use to preffix each SMS with the "111" command,
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> TIM in Italy is also a roaming partner of Fido,
> http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/roa_romr.shtml
SB - 17 Dec 2003 21:56 GMT
The problem with overseas SMS with Fido is that they usually don't work.  I
think it's pathetic that I have to use yahoo or icq to send ppl messages
because my freakin service provider, that I pay money to (unlike icq and
yahoo), can't get it together to have their international sms's go through
on so many networks.
repatch - 17 Dec 2003 22:36 GMT
While I'm not the largest fan of Fido, to say that is USUALLY doesn't work
is overexageration. But them, given your past behaviour I'm not too
surprised...

> The problem with overseas SMS with Fido is that they usually don't work.  I
> think it's pathetic that I have to use yahoo or icq to send ppl messages
> because my freakin service provider, that I pay money to (unlike icq and
> yahoo), can't get it together to have their international sms's go through
> on so many networks.
SB - 17 Dec 2003 22:43 GMT
Try sending to Egypt, on either carrier - 0 for I have no idea how many, but
it's a lot of attempts.  Australia, the occasional one goes through.  ICQ -
works all the time in both Countries (but only one of the carriers in Egypt
is supported so far - dang).  Gimme a break... it's pathetic that free web
portals can manage to do what a supposed communications service provider
(again, *that I pay for) is supposed to be able to do (but can't).

> While I'm not the largest fan of Fido, to say that is USUALLY doesn't work
> is overexageration. But them, given your past behaviour I'm not too
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> > yahoo), can't get it together to have their international sms's go through
> > on so many networks.
Ototin - 18 Dec 2003 02:19 GMT
>The problem with overseas SMS with Fido is that they usually don't work.  I
>think it's pathetic that I have to use yahoo or icq to send ppl messages
>because my freakin service provider, that I pay money to (unlike icq and
>yahoo), can't get it together to have their international sms's go through
>on so many networks.

In my case it always work. SMS to and from Philippines and Singapore
always works.
Pavel - 18 Dec 2003 04:58 GMT
I sent an SMS to my cousin in Eastern Europe.  Fido is a partner with them.
It didn't work.  I tried using the GPRS SMS and it was transmitted but an
error message came back as being undeliverable.  However, my cousin called
me up and told me he did receive ONE SMS- GPRS but he was not able to reply
back :-/

: The fact that Orange and Fido are roaming partners, doesn't mean it will
: work.
:
: For example, T-Mobile UK is a roaming partner of Fido, but it's been
: confirmed that Fido for some reason is on their SMS blacklist. Go figure.
alien - 12 Dec 2003 06:10 GMT
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:21:35 -0500, radusam says...

> For almost 3 weeks now, I'm no longer able to send SMSes to Orange in
> Romania and TIM in Italy. I use to preffix each SMS with the "111" command,
> but all I receive (after 3 days) is ...status:EXPIRED.

I just tried with TIM, works perfectly. Perhaps you should use +39
instead of 111.
radusam - 12 Dec 2003 18:59 GMT
Oh, thank you very much, I'll try this way !
How could I be so ignorant ?!?

> I just tried with TIM, works perfectly. Perhaps you should use +39
> instead of 111.
Edward S - 12 Dec 2003 23:10 GMT
> On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:21:35 -0500, radusam says...
>
>...
> I just tried with TIM, works perfectly. Perhaps you should use +39
> instead of 111.

The 111 is part of the SMS message to request a status report, is
entered in the body of the SMS, and is separate from the phone
number(SMS destination).
alien - 13 Dec 2003 08:15 GMT
On 12 Dec 2003 15:10:20 -0800, Edward S says...

> The 111 is part of the SMS message to request a status report, is
> entered in the body of the SMS, and is separate from the phone
> number(SMS destination).

Yes, my mistake, sorry. I didn't read the message properly. Anyway
the point is I can send and receive messages to and from TIM so the
problem must be the single recipient.
 
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