I would like to see Fido (Microcell) expand NE BC to NW AB.
Mainly from Fort St. John, Dawson Creek, Grand Prairie areas.
Like to oil patch area. Lots of business there.
> I don't think they're going to expand into Grand Prairie, Fort McMurray or
> any other backwoods area in Alberta (they're all backwoods really, but I
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> > Umm.. Grand Prarie or Whitecourt? Major cities? Sure..
>still find it mind-boggling that there's no coverage from north of Toronto
>until you get to Winnipeg, yet there are fairly large cities on that TC span
>(Thunderbay, Sault St-Marie, etc). No coverage in Kingston (?!) either.
>Bell and Rogers both have coverage in those areas.
I find it kinda troubling that they don't have coverage along the 401
between Toronto and Montreal, actually. It's a fairly well-travelled
route. Their Toronto coverage cuts out just east of Oshawa, and
doesn't pick up again until somewhere jsut west of Montreal. not sure
where, exactly, but I was on a VIA train about half an hour from the
station before I caught the signal the last time I was out that way...
You'd think they'd at least have Toronto-Montreal-Ottawa covered...
mistaroboto - 17 Dec 2003 01:22 GMT
> You'd think they'd at least have Toronto-Montreal-Ottawa covered...
You'ld think so.. hmmm...
Paul Fedorenko - 17 Dec 2003 02:43 GMT
>> You'd think they'd at least have Toronto-Montreal-Ottawa covered...
>
>You'ld think so.. hmmm...
I meant the highway routes between the three cities...
JF Mezei - 17 Dec 2003 03:06 GMT
> I find it kinda troubling that they don't have coverage along the 401
> between Toronto and Montreal,
This has been discused a lot in the past. Give the pooch a break. Its just had
major reconstructive bankrupcy surgery.
It did Montreal-Québec and Montreal-Ottawa, probably because of government
contracts that generated enough revenus and required that coverage.
Lets face it, AT&T and Bell are far more likely to get trucking contracts.
They have far more coverage along long haul highways. Covering only the 401
wouldn't really give Microcell much of a chance because it would still lack
Toronto-Sudbury as well as Ottawa-Sudbury-Winnipeg.
Being Québec based, the québec government probably gave Fido contracts as the
local pet. But they couldn't really expect any treats from the Ontario
government which might have otherwise justified Toronto-Prescott-Ottawa.
Also, Quebec-Montreal and Montreal-Ottawa are short enough distance that
car/bus travel is competitive. But for Toronto-Ottawa, air travel is the
competitive one for government travel.
> You'd think they'd at least have Toronto-Montreal-Ottawa covered...
It is covered on Analogue.
Paul Fedorenko - 17 Dec 2003 03:44 GMT
>> I find it kinda troubling that they don't have coverage along the 401
>> between Toronto and Montreal,
>
>This has been discused a lot in the past. Give the pooch a break. Its just had
>major reconstructive bankrupcy surgery.
Your points make sense. I'm not going to argue that. I guess I was
posting more from the perspective of mild annoyance than anything
else. Microcell's got such a good network in the places that I
usually frequent (except a 30-foot diameter dead spot at the top of my
street that's been there since I signed on) that it's irrationally
annoying that they don't have coverage everywhere. I mean, it'd be
impossible from a financial stand-point, like you've pointed out. But
still... Sorry about the minor rant. I guess this would be a
sensitive topic, just like lack of coverage in other areas...
>> You'd think they'd at least have Toronto-Montreal-Ottawa covered...
>
>It is covered on Analogue.
Well... I might actually have a Motorola Brick (MicroTac) kicking
around somewhere... I wonder if the thing still works...
G M - 17 Dec 2003 16:44 GMT
Until Bell eliminates the analog network, in some places, could be as early
as six months away.
G M
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> It is covered on Analogue.
Calimero - 17 Dec 2003 17:52 GMT
> Until Bell eliminates the analog network, in some places, could be as early
> as six months away.
>
> G M
Is this true ?
They are in the process of removing the analog network ?
JF Mezei - 18 Dec 2003 02:36 GMT
> Until Bell eliminates the analog network, in some places, could be as early
> as six months away.
Seriously, has Bell begun to dismantle its analogue network ? Does CDMA has
the same range from a tower as AMPS ?
Is Bell simply shifting all of analogue bandwidth over to CDMA ?
What about AT&T ? How is its roll out of 850mhz GSM coming along ?
G M - 19 Dec 2003 02:33 GMT
I've heard that bell will be eliminating AMPS in areas where CDMA coverage
is excellent, and expanding the CDMA areas that need improvement, then
dropping AMPS from those areas. Eventually, they will be eliminating AMPS
all together.
G M
> > Until Bell eliminates the analog network, in some places, could be as early
> > as six months away.
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> What about AT&T ? How is its roll out of 850mhz GSM coming along ?
SB - 17 Dec 2003 05:20 GMT
Actually, if you get off at the 416 and head toward Ottawa, it picks up
halfway there and they have coverage on the 417 from Kanata through Ottawa,
then gone again. Agreed, it's horrible. They should at least have solid
coverage from Quebec through to Windsor ('the corridor') where most of the
Canadian population lives. Some coverage in other major cities such as
Kenora, Sault-St Marie, Thunderbay and Medicine Hat to name a few would also
help.
What can you do. You get what you paid for. If coverage while travelling
in Canada is critical, your best best is probably Rogers, but you'll pay
through the nose with the nick-nack fees. Heck, their unltd eve/wknd
packages, while a rip-off, at least used to start at 6pm. They now pushed
them to 8pm and give your your original 6pm for an extra ten dollars a
month. Then again, fido took away voicemail/call-id that used to be
included in most of their plans and charges an extra five for it now (which
you don't have to pay if you're a student with an ISIC card... hint hint).
At least they still have insane deals on phones.
> >still find it mind-boggling that there's no coverage from north of Toronto
> >until you get to Winnipeg, yet there are fairly large cities on that TC span
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> You'd think they'd at least have Toronto-Montreal-Ottawa covered...
Steve Punter - 17 Dec 2003 16:36 GMT
>Then again, fido took away voicemail/call-id that used
>to be included in most of their plans and charges an extra
>five for it now
With the exception of a few selected plans, Fido NEVER included Caller ID
and Voicemail with their packages. They've always been an extra, and they've
always cost $5. You must be thinking of Clearnet.

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