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WTT: Unlocked Ericsson T200 for GSM850 Phone
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repatch - 28 Dec 2003 15:44 GMT As the subject says, want to trade my Sony-Ericsson T200 (GSM900, 1800, 1900) for a phone with GSM 850 coverage.
Don't really care which one, something like the Nokia 3595 would be perfect.
Would prefer it to be unlocked but will consider one locked to Rogers.
Let me know what you've got and what deal you'd like and I'll see what we can agree on.
Thanks, TTYL
repatch - 28 Dec 2003 15:45 GMT Oh, and yes, the T200 is unlocked, it was originally a Fido locked phone but I have been using it with Rogers for the past while. Thanks, TTYL
> As the subject says, want to trade my Sony-Ericsson T200 (GSM900, 1800, > 1900) for a phone with GSM 850 coverage. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Thanks, TTYL HaroldB - 29 Dec 2003 02:30 GMT Just head over to Future Shop and pick up the R4U Nokia 35395 - unlock it (for free on the web) and leave it at that. It'll set you back $58, tax included, with a warranty.
The T200 is worth about $25 (maybe a couple of $$ more because it's unlocked) since Fido was giving them away to their subscribers for $30 delivered with a SIM card last year.
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> As the subject says, want to trade my Sony-Ericsson T200 (GSM900, 1800, > 1900) for a phone with GSM 850 coverage. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Thanks, TTYL repatch - 29 Dec 2003 04:13 GMT > Just head over to Future Shop and pick up the R4U Nokia 35395 - unlock it > (for free on the web) and leave it at that. It'll set you back $58, tax > included, with a warranty. $58 is far more then I'm willing to spend.
> The T200 is worth about $25 (maybe a couple of $$ more because it's > unlocked) since Fido was giving them away to their subscribers for $30 > delivered with a SIM card last year. Future Shop was selling the 3595 for ~$25 this past week, which puts it in the same ballpark as my T200, hence my post.
socket - 29 Dec 2003 06:23 GMT whats so different between gsm 850 and 900 never really understood?
> > Just head over to Future Shop and pick up the R4U Nokia 35395 - unlock it > > (for free on the web) and leave it at that. It'll set you back $58, tax [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Future Shop was selling the 3595 for ~$25 this past week, which puts it > in the same ballpark as my T200, hence my post. HaroldB - 29 Dec 2003 12:15 GMT 850 MHz GSM is a North American cellular band. The Europeans use different frequencies in the 900 MHz. In Canada and the US a 'tri-band world phone' only uses 1900 MHz in Canada and the US - the 850 was (until recently) used solely for AMPS and CDMA/TDMA, but not for GSM.
Now they are phasing out the 850 MHz AMPS and are reusing the sites and spectrum for GSM. I'm hoping that they leave in SOME AMPS capacity because there is a lot of equipment - notably security equipment, alarm dialers and such - that operates only on AMPS.
850 MHz 'goes farther' than 1900, so in theory, if you plan to use GSM in non-urban North America you will eventually need a dual-band 850/1900 phone.
The 850/1900 phones will not work in Europe, where they use 900/1800 so if you need a real world phone, eventually it will have to he 4 band - 850/900 1800/1900.
> whats so different between gsm 850 and 900 never really understood? >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> puts it >> in the same ballpark as my T200, hence my post. Blandine Bigard - 05 Jan 2004 16:05 GMT This is true only for Rogers in Canada. Fido got no frequencies in the 850 band and never will since all are already attributed to Bell and Rogers. So, on Fido, you are better with a tri-band if you travel outside Canada/USA. If you go to isolated places in us then a 850 is a plus but in most places a 1900 will work well. It depend on your travel paterns. A compromise may be the Ericsson T616 wich got the 2 NA bands plus one world (1800) it will work in most places but not on 900 only countries. Quad bands are very rare for now. If you are a big traveller you better with two phones (one 850/1900 for NA and one 900/1800 rest of the world.
> 850 MHz GSM is a North American cellular band. The Europeans use different > frequencies in the 900 MHz. In Canada and the US a 'tri-band world phone' [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > >> puts it > >> in the same ballpark as my T200, hence my post. Andrew Marvick - 05 Jan 2004 22:32 GMT >> The 850/1900 phones will not work in Europe, where they use 900/1800 so if you need a real world phone, eventually it will have to he 4 band - 850/900 1800/1900.
My question is hopelessly naive, but I'll ask it anyway (maybe it'll make me feel better): If a world phone (that is, a cellphone that really is actually useable throughout most of the world, including rural/suburban/urban US and most countries in Europe) has to be both GSM and TDMA and be compatible with 850, 900, 1800 and 1900 MHz frequencies, then WHY DOESN"T ANYONE MAKE AND SELL SUCH A PHONE????
And my followup: If there IS such a phone, what is it, how much does it cost, can I use it with AT&T or some other major US carrier, and does it weigh less than a laptop?
Thanks.
Harry Eugene Ly - 06 Jan 2004 02:00 GMT They do make phones like this. For example, the Handspring Treo 600 (GSM version) is a World GSM phone that has 850, 900, 1800, and 1900.
> >> The 850/1900 phones will not work in Europe, where they use > 900/1800 so if [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Thanks. Pavel - 06 Jan 2004 02:55 GMT What kind of contract, if any are we talking about and how does when get your phone unlocked (FREE) via the web. Do tell, enquiry minds want to know.
: > "HaroldB" <dsswannabe@removethis.minister.com> wrote in message : > news:Xns945FDAC918DE3a00112345@205.237.233.50... [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] : > unlocked) since Fido was giving them away to their subscribers for : > $30 delivered with a SIM card last year.
: > Future Shop was selling the 3595 for ~$25 this past week, which : > puts it in the same ballpark as my T200, hence my post. Blandine Bigard - 06 Jan 2004 14:57 GMT On boxing day (dec 26 only) it was possible to buy the 3595 for 29.99 at future shop. This phone and all the DCT-4 nokia phones are very easy to unlock. Just go to http://www.nokiafree.org/ and give iemi, provider and model and the program generate all the unlock codes. You then put into the phone et voil?! You can also activate the ready4u chip in rogers pay as you go mode and they give you 20$ airtime credit! Total cost of the unlocked phone: $9.99!
> What kind of contract, if any are we talking about and how does when > get your phone unlocked (FREE) via the web. Do tell, enquiry minds [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/2004 Pavel - 06 Jan 2004 19:58 GMT That must've been localized. BC didnt have any such offer, not withOUT a contract anways. I even checked Future Shop's Boxing day flyer and it wasn't in there (for any price like that). You're lucky! ;-)
Thanks for the link to the nokia site :-)
: On boxing day (dec 26 only) it was possible to buy the 3595 for 29.99 at : future shop. This phone and all the DCT-4 nokia phones are very easy to [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] : > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). : > Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/2004 JF Mezei - 11 Jan 2004 05:11 GMT > This is true only for Rogers in Canada. Fido got no frequencies in the 850 > band and never will since all are already attributed to Bell and Rogers. However, is it possible that Microcell might have roaming agreements with networks in the USA that do have 850 service which would enable Fido subscribers to get service soutside major cities ????
Blandine Bigard - 12 Jan 2004 15:20 GMT > > This is true only for Rogers in Canada. Fido got no frequencies in the 850 > > band and never will since all are already attributed to Bell and Rogers. > > However, is it possible that Microcell might have roaming agreements with > networks in the USA that do have 850 service which would enable Fido > subscribers to get service soutside major cities ???? Of course and I think it's already the case. It depend of your roaming paterns. If you go mostly in remote areas of the USA and Panama (I think they 850 only) You better with that type of phone but If your main destination is europe a regular triband is better. For the big traveller the coming quad-bands will be a must.
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