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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / Fido / January 2004New phone this month
I hear Fido is getting a flip phone with integrated camera later this month. tony How much? : I hear Fido is getting a flip phone with integrated camera later this month. : : tony >How much? $19.95 >: I hear Fido is getting a flip phone with integrated camera later >this month. >: >: tony - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - remove NO from .NOcom to reply > How much? > : I hear Fido is getting a flip phone with integrated camera later > this month. > : > : tony It is going to be the Sony Ericsson Z200. Price still unconfirmed.... They will (apparently) be getting the Sony Ericsson Z200, but, unlike its big brother the Z600, it does not have a built-in camera. CU > I hear Fido is getting a flip phone with integrated camera later this month. > > tony Sony Ericsson sucks. Now, if they have a Nokia for $20... : They will (apparently) be getting the Sony Ericsson Z200, but, unlike its : big brother the Z600, it does not have a built-in camera. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] : > : > tony That's quite a generalization. I had a Nokia once. An 8260 with Rogers. It sucked real bad, I guess all Nokia's suck. CU > Sony Ericsson sucks. Now, if they have a Nokia for $20... > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > : > > : > tony I've had a T200 and friends had a few other SE models too. My T200 was plagued with problems and the sound quality on this one and various other SE's was crappy, IMHO. I too had an 8260. I had problems with it, big time. When it worked, it worked very well. But, for some reason, it kept on going back for repair because it would "redial" in medium traffic areas and no matter what, it couldnt make a call. Hand off was also an issue with my 8260. I still liked it though, probably cuz i paid $150 for it when it first came out. : That's quite a generalization. I had a Nokia once. An 8260 with Rogers. : It sucked real bad, I guess all Nokia's suck. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] : > : > : > : > tony My point exactly, you say "Sony Ericsson sucks" because of the one bad experience with the T200. I don't really think Nokia sucks, I was just making a point. You cannot judge a manufacturer by only one of their products. Well, we all have our preferences. CU > I've had a T200 and friends had a few other SE models too. My T200 was > plagued with problems and the sound quality on this one and various other [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > : > : > > : > : > tony > My point exactly, you say "Sony Ericsson sucks" because of the one bad > experience with the T200. I don't really think Nokia sucks, I was just > making a point. You cannot judge a manufacturer by only one of their > products. Well, we all have our preferences. I think they do suck, because all the SEs I've seen have poorly designed menu layouts. Now, granted, I haven't tried one of their Symbian smartphones, but I don't want a Symbian smartphone.  Signature"Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from malice." > I think they do suck, because all the SEs I've seen have poorly designed > menu layouts. Now, granted, I haven't tried one of their Symbian > smartphones, but I don't want a Symbian smartphone. Aren't all Sony-Ericcson based on Symbian OS ? And why do you not want one based on Symbian-OS (formerly known as EPOC-32, developped by PSION) >>I think they do suck, because all the SEs I've seen have poorly designed >>menu layouts. Now, granted, I haven't tried one of their Symbian >>smartphones, but I don't want a Symbian smartphone. > > Aren't all Sony-Ericcson based on Symbian OS ? And why do you not want one > based on Symbian-OS (formerly known as EPOC-32, developped by PSION) Are they? I thought that was only the PDA phones like the P800. As to why... well, I don't want a PDA phone. I have a PDA. I have a phone. They're both things I like, but I like to keep them separate, much like sex and violence. ;) Signature"Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from malice." > Are they? I thought that was only the PDA phones like the P800. As to > why... well, I don't want a PDA phone. I have a PDA. I have a phone. The mobile phone companies bought into EPOC 32 because they realised it was pointless to constantly rewrite their own operating systems for phones. Yes, EPOC32 (Symbian OS) was first implemented into the PSION Series 5 PDA, and then into PDA-phones but the first models were two separate units into the same box: the old OS/chip for the GSM portion, and EPOC32 for the user interface with a link between the two (the PDA acted as a glorified keyboard to the phone). But the current crop of phones seems to be based on Symbian even if they are not a "PDA". For instance, Symbian OS provides the TCPIP, GPRS, SMS, GSM stack and then each company writes their own interface (the original EPOC 32 interfaces were dumped so that each cell phone company could write their own UI). So the mobile phone companies are using SYMBIAN OS more and an operating system than a PDA, but on the more expoensive phones are adding PDA applications. Symbian OS also provides for JAVA. It should technically also provide for OPL (a BASIC-like programming language dating back to the original 16 bit EPOC) but I do not know if it would work on a phone. I hear ya. However, I forgot to mention that SE's Customer Service in both in the USA and Canada did nothing for me with the various problems with the phone. They lacked professionalism and didn't give a hoot. I had problems with the Nokia, but they went out of their way, as best as they could to remedy the problem. I can't say the same about SE. I can go on and on, about the T200 and the quality of this phone. I have also talked to a many, many people who had SE products. Most [but not all] are unhappy with their phone. It's not scientific but in my opinion, from my experience and others that I know, SE sucks. Nokia also has an actual repair facility back east. SE has no factory or repair facility in Canada. Teleplan just replaces their phones. Quality, reliability, service and support are all important to me. This is what Nokia has and looks like Siemens does too, at least quality anyways, so far. These phones are the ones that I have had including Audiovox and Mitsubishi. : My point exactly, you say "Sony Ericsson sucks" because of the one bad : experience with the T200. I don't really think Nokia sucks, I was just [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] : > : > : > : > : > : > tony > Quality, reliability, service and support are all important to me. > This is what Nokia has and looks like Siemens does too, at least > quality anyways, so far. As I expect to get an M55 any day now, I called Siemens to ask a simple question: does the M55 use any standard interface between a laptop and the phone for GPRS access ? It took about 10 minutes for me to spell my name, address, email., colour of underwear and plenty of other details to some americans who doesn't know what "zed" means because I finally got to ask my simple question and the guy was *totally* clueless. I really mean "totally". I just said that I just tell my windows laptop that I am connecting to a GPRS phone. (even though IO had repeatedly specified to hism I didn'T run anmy microsoft software and I just wanted to know what standard was used for the interface). I did find one standard for such interface (GSM 07.07) but I have no idea if the Siemens phones support that standard. It will cost me the proprietary cable to find out. And the first thing I need to do is to chop off the IBM -PC DB-9 connector and put a real RS232 connector so I can talk to it from non wintel machines. : As I expect to get an M55 any day now, I called Siemens to ask a simple : question: does the M55 use any standard interface between a laptop and the [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] : DB-9 connector and put a real RS232 connector so I can talk to it from non : wintel machines. This info is a little disturbing. For the simple reason that it sounds very similar to the ordeal I went through with Sony Ericsson. I also did some research as well. If you have a Siemens phone and you choose not to take it to a Fido flag ship, the only place that does a replacement (with a refurbished unit) is Teleplan. They also look after Sony Ericsson service support. I wonder what happens if you are a Roger's customer and have a Siemens phone? I suspect the same. |
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