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Adnan - 30 Jan 2004 16:31 GMT
I wonder why Fido discontinued the T310 but still has the T300 on sale.
Any guesses?
mistaroboto - 30 Jan 2004 17:59 GMT
> I wonder why Fido discontinued the T310 but still has the T300 on sale.
> Any guesses?

Umm.. inventory availability and sell through rates?
Adnan - 31 Jan 2004 15:28 GMT
> > I wonder why Fido discontinued the T310 but still has the T300 on sale.
> > Any guesses?
>
> Umm.. inventory availability and sell through rates?

Anyway, the phone sucks.. I regret buying it.

Adnan
repatch - 31 Jan 2004 20:58 GMT
> > > I wonder why Fido discontinued the T310 but still has the T300 on sale.
> > > Any guesses?
> >
> > Umm.. inventory availability and sell through rates?
>
> Anyway, the phone sucks.. I regret buying it.

   Define "sucks", my 310 is great, no complaints at all about it. TTYL
Adnan - 01 Feb 2004 03:14 GMT
> > > > I wonder why Fido discontinued the T310 but still has the T300 on
> sale.
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>
>     Define "sucks", my 310 is great, no complaints at all about it. TTYL

-The software is frickin slow. Feels like Win98 running on a 386.
-To send an SMS, one must go through a ton of screens before you
actually can send it.
-Hard to grip the phone. (feeling lucky that I haven't dropped it yet)

My main gripe is the speed though. I'm getting sick of the ever-present
lag (particularly when I redial, dial a phonebook contact or hang up).

Adnan
repatch - 01 Feb 2004 04:30 GMT
> > > > > I wonder why Fido discontinued the T310 but still has the T300 on
> > sale.
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>
> -The software is frickin slow. Feels like Win98 running on a 386.

   Common to many ericssons, for a long time, you just get used to it.

> -To send an SMS, one must go through a ton of screens before you
> actually can send it.

   Make it a shortcut in the shortcut menu.

> -Hard to grip the phone. (feeling lucky that I haven't dropped it yet)

   You should have picked one up before buying it, this is NOT a reason for
say it "sucks". It's like I by a yellow car and then complain it sucks
because it's yellow.

> My main gripe is the speed though. I'm getting sick of the ever-present
> lag (particularly when I redial, dial a phonebook contact or hang up).

   I've been using ericsson phones for many years (in fact my first phone
ever was an ericsson) and have simply gotten used to it. TTYL
Adnan - 02 Feb 2004 14:20 GMT
> > > > > > I wonder why Fido discontinued the T310 but still has the T300 on
> > > sale.
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>
>     Common to many ericssons, for a long time, you just get used to it.

The non-color screen phones (the old T200 for instance) didn't have that
problem.

> > -To send an SMS, one must go through a ton of screens before you
> > actually can send it.
>
>     Make it a shortcut in the shortcut menu.

That's not it. First of all, there's no need for a shortcut. Just hold
the center stick to the right and it immediately brings you to "Write
new SMS". The thing is, after you've finished writing it you have to go
through 6-7 screens before you reach the "send" option.

> > -Hard to grip the phone. (feeling lucky that I haven't dropped it yet)
>
>     You should have picked one up before buying it, this is NOT a reason for
> say it "sucks". It's like I by a yellow car and then complain it sucks
> because it's yellow.

That's a flaw I can live with. My main gripe as I mentioned again is the
speed.

> > My main gripe is the speed though. I'm getting sick of the ever-present
> > lag (particularly when I redial, dial a phonebook contact or hang up).
>
>     I've been using ericsson phones for many years (in fact my first phone
> ever was an ericsson) and have simply gotten used to it. TTYL

Bah. It's way to slow. I prefer the no-lag nokias and siemens. Too bad
the 15-day period is way over... :(

Adnan
Adnan - 02 Feb 2004 14:21 GMT
> > > > > > > I wonder why Fido discontinued the T310 but still has the T300 on
> > > > sale.
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> That's not it. First of all, there's no need for a shortcut. Just hold
> the center stick to the right

I mean to the LEFT.

> and it immediately brings you to "Write
> new SMS". The thing is, after you've finished writing it you have to go
> through 6-7 screens before you reach the "send" option.

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repatch - 02 Feb 2004 16:10 GMT
> > > > -To send an SMS, one must go through a ton of screens before you
> > > > actually can send it.
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>
> I mean to the LEFT.

   That it a shortcut, defined by what you have in position one on your
shortcut menu. For example, on my phone holding it to the left brings me to
the alarm settings menu, which is what I have in the number one place of the
shortcut menu. Try reading the manual. TTYL
Adnan - 05 Feb 2004 03:13 GMT
> > > > > -To send an SMS, one must go through a ton of screens before you
> > > > > actually can send it.
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> the alarm settings menu, which is what I have in the number one place of the
> shortcut menu. Try reading the manual. TTYL

Ok. Anyway that is besides the point. The phone sucks, period. ;)

Adnan
repatch - 05 Feb 2004 04:51 GMT
> > > > > > -To send an SMS, one must go through a ton of screens before you
> > > > > > actually can send it.
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>
> Ok. Anyway that is besides the point. The phone sucks, period. ;)

   No, not period, you didn't do your homework and think it "sucks" because
of that.
Adnan - 07 Feb 2004 14:22 GMT
> > > > > > > -To send an SMS, one must go through a ton of screens before you
> > > > > > > actually can send it.
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>     No, not period, you didn't do your homework and think it "sucks" because
> of that.

You don't get it, do you? I said it sucks mainly because of the slow
software. "Doing my homework" will not change that.

You are an idiot if you think I'll continue arguing with you on whether
the T310 sucks or not. FOAD.

Adnan
repatch - 07 Feb 2004 18:01 GMT
> >     No, not period, you didn't do your homework and think it "sucks" because
> > of that.
>
> You don't get it, do you? I said it sucks mainly because of the slow
> software. "Doing my homework" will not change that.

   Yes it would have, you would have NOT purchased the phone, and therefore
wouldn't be bothered by it. While you feeling of it "sucking" would still be
valid to you, you wouldn't have been bothered by it.

   To be the slow responses doesn't make it "suck".

> You are an idiot if you think I'll continue arguing with you on whether
> the T310 sucks or not.

   Hehe, so instead of a constructive response you start with name calling.
Bravo...

> FOAD.

   You do realize what that acronym stands for? You do realize that making
a death threat is a BAD thing? Right?
Adnan - 07 Feb 2004 19:40 GMT
> > >     No, not period, you didn't do your homework and think it "sucks"
> because
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>     You do realize what that acronym stands for? You do realize that making
> a death threat is a BAD thing? Right?

Ok Ok, I apologize for that. Just getting sick of arguing about such
trivial matters.

Adnan
repatch - 02 Feb 2004 16:09 GMT
> > > -The software is frickin slow. Feels like Win98 running on a 386.
> >
> >     Common to many ericssons, for a long time, you just get used to it.
>
> The non-color screen phones (the old T200 for instance) didn't have that
> problem.

   Umm, yes it did. In fact every ericsson I've ever had has had this
"problem" in one form or another. I'm talking about the CA638, T18z, T28,
T200, T300 and T310. I guess you just didn't notice it on the T200 as much
since it might not have been "as bad".

> > > -To send an SMS, one must go through a ton of screens before you
> > > actually can send it.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> new SMS". The thing is, after you've finished writing it you have to go
> through 6-7 screens before you reach the "send" option.

   Acually that center stick thing IS a shortcut, read the manual...

   As for after writing an SMS I've gotten used to it. Again, this is
something you should have tried out before buying the phone. Oww, this car
sucks because it's trunk release is on the right side of my seat instead of
the left...

> > > -Hard to grip the phone. (feeling lucky that I haven't dropped it yet)
> >
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> That's a flaw I can live with. My main gripe as I mentioned again is the
> speed.

   You can't complain about that since it is always there, and would have
been noticed after using the phone for only a minute or two.

> > > My main gripe is the speed though. I'm getting sick of the ever-present
> > > lag (particularly when I redial, dial a phonebook contact or hang up).
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> Bah. It's way to slow. I prefer the no-lag nokias and siemens. Too bad
> the 15-day period is way over... :(

   The slowness is so apparent you shoudl have noticed it after a minute of
use, why it took you 15 days to notice it I don't know. Personally it's one
of the best phones I've ever had, for it's price. TTYL
Adnan - 07 Feb 2004 14:26 GMT
> > > > -The software is frickin slow. Feels like Win98 running on a 386.
> > >
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> T200, T300 and T310. I guess you just didn't notice it on the T200 as much
> since it might not have been "as bad".

There was no noticeable lag in the older phones.

> > > > -To send an SMS, one must go through a ton of screens before you
> > > > actually can send it.
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> sucks because it's trunk release is on the right side of my seat instead of
> the left...

Whether you got used to it or not, the fact that you need to go through
6-7 screens before you can "send" is totally unnecessary and could have
been avoided if they had designed the interface better.

> > > > -Hard to grip the phone. (feeling lucky that I haven't dropped it yet)
> > >
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> use, why it took you 15 days to notice it I don't know. Personally it's one
> of the best phones I've ever had, for it's price. TTYL

At the time it was the phone with the most features for the price.
That's why I kept it. That doesn't mean I can't complain about it.

Adnan
repatch - 07 Feb 2004 18:06 GMT
> >     Umm, yes it did. In fact every ericsson I've ever had has had this
> > "problem" in one form or another. I'm talking about the CA638, T18z, T28,
> > T200, T300 and T310. I guess you just didn't notice it on the T200 as much
> > since it might not have been "as bad".
>
> There was no noticeable lag in the older phones.

   Yes, there was, it just might not have been as noticible to you. I can
demonstrate the lag with my CA638, T18z and T200 if you wish. Can't
demonstrate with the T300 since I don't have that phone anymore.

> >     As for after writing an SMS I've gotten used to it. Again, this is
> > something you should have tried out before buying the phone. Oww, this car
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> 6-7 screens before you can "send" is totally unnecessary and could have
> been avoided if they had designed the interface better.

   I don't know what you're doing wrong. I just tried on my T310, from the
point of pressing yes after I finished entering the message, to the point it
actually sent was 2 additional screens, one for the number and one to
confirm all the receipeints have been sent.
> >     The slowness is so apparent you shoudl have noticed it after a minute of
> > use, why it took you 15 days to notice it I don't know. Personally it's one
> > of the best phones I've ever had, for it's price. TTYL
>
> At the time it was the phone with the most features for the price.
> That's why I kept it. That doesn't mean I can't complain about it.

   Actually it is. If you buy a lada and then complain about it not beating
a Porsche all will laugh at you, since you bought a lada knowing full well
it couldn't beat a Porsche. This is the same. TTYL
Adnan - 07 Feb 2004 19:39 GMT
> > >     Umm, yes it did. In fact every ericsson I've ever had has had this
> > > "problem" in one form or another. I'm talking about the CA638, T18z,
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> actually sent was 2 additional screens, one for the number and one to
> confirm all the receipeints have been sent.

Try sending to one of the phonebook entries.

> > >     The slowness is so apparent you shoudl have noticed it after a
> minute of
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> a Porsche all will laugh at you, since you bought a lada knowing full well
> it couldn't beat a Porsche. This is the same. TTYL
repatch - 07 Feb 2004 20:19 GMT
> >     I don't know what you're doing wrong. I just tried on my T310, from the
> > point of pressing yes after I finished entering the message, to the point it
> > actually sent was 2 additional screens, one for the number and one to
> > confirm all the receipeints have been sent.
>
> Try sending to one of the phonebook entries.

   Not really a big deal:

press yes on the message, number entry menu appears
press left key, menu appears asking which source for the number: phone book,
SIM or unsaved entries, press phone book
menu appears to find the entry, enter the first character of the entry
phone book appears, select the right entry
the entry's available phone numbers appear, select the one that is
appropriate
menu appears asking if you want any more recipients or if you want to send

Now, while this all looks much, if you look at it there isn't really
anything there that SHOULDN'T be there, and taking any of it away takes away
features. You yourself said the T310 has many features, this is a
consequence.

While a few of those menus could be taken for the average person I find each
one is necessary when I'm sending a message.

While other phones might do it in less remember that they are probably
lacking some features that your T310 doesn't have. For example on many
phones you can only have one number per phone book entry, hence that menu
selection wouldn't be there. On many phones the SIM is the only place to
store numbers, so that menu wouldn't be there. Some phones don't let you
search the phone book at all, meaning that menu wouldn't appear.

To each his/her own. TTYL
 
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