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Salt Spring and Gulf Islands

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Carl Carlson - 23 Jul 2003 07:38 GMT
Hello all,
I've looked at Steve Romaine's maps as well as the coverage maps on Fido and
Rogers but I'd like to get feedback from actual users. How are Fido and
Rogers GSM (don't care about Fido analog roaming or Rogers TDMA) on Salt
Spring and on the Tswassen (sp?)-Swartz bay run?

Thanks in advance,
Carl
Andrew - 23 Jul 2003 16:27 GMT
Fido's Coverage on Swartz Bay /Tswassen is good. Gulf Islands are very
varied, I believe they did intend to cover the Ferry Run, but not the
islands.

Ganges, for example, I can stand out at the Sea Plane dock and get a
good signal, but not in town, 100 feet away.

Rogers has problems on the Tswassen - Swartz Bay run, based on trying to
talk to friends on that route, but I have not surveyed it, but then
Roger's GSM has lots of holes in Vancouver too.

Andrew

> Hello all,
> I've looked at Steve Romaine's maps as well as the coverage maps on Fido and
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Thanks in advance,
> Carl
Jeremy G - 24 Jul 2003 03:18 GMT
I was really amazed when I went to Victoria and had Fido coverage the whole
way.  I wondered if there might be a cell on the ferry (although I have no
idea how they would do this).
I wasn't on any of the Gulf Islands, so I don't know what the coverage there
is like.
Enjoy your trip!

> Hello all,
> I've looked at Steve Romaine's maps as well as the coverage maps on Fido and
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Thanks in advance,
> Carl
Andrew - 24 Jul 2003 06:37 GMT
There is no Cell on the ferry, there is a tower on one of the Gulf
Islands i believe, and there is additional coverage from Voicestream
/TMobile in the US. Voicestream/TMobile and Fido have an agreement to
share coverage near the US/Canada Border. This provides some additional
coverage.

You can see this on the south side of Saturna where I have found strong
Fido coverage, that given the terrain HAD to be coming from the south,
ie US. In a 20 min walk around cliffs on the south of Saturna I once had
connections to Towers to the East (ie Tswassen area), West (ie Victoria)
South (US) and up higher, probably from the gulf islands tower. I could
establish that with one Victoria SIM, one Vancouver SIM and looking at
waht was local calls and what was long distance calls.

Andrew

> I was really amazed when I went to Victoria and had Fido coverage the whole
> way.  I wondered if there might be a cell on the ferry (although I have no
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>>Thanks in advance,
>>Carl
Mark - 24 Jul 2003 10:10 GMT
>Voicestream/TMobile and Fido have an agreement to
>share coverage near the US/Canada Border. This provides some additional
>coverage.

Where does someone find out about this "from the horse's mouth" as it
were - ie, some printed document either on Microcell corp, or Tmobile
corp's sites or wherever that says this?

Also, how did you find out this?

Reason I ask is that I go cross the border a lot, and I'm either on
fido, or roaming on Tmobile, and if I make a call anywhere near the
border in some places, I'm paying roaming charges.

Mark
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Andrew - 26 Jul 2003 04:58 GMT
This agreement was announced many moons ago in one of the standard
Microcell shareholder announcements. I am assuming it is still valid,
but voicestream/tmobile is signing lots of those agreements in the US
now so I would be surprised if it is still not valid.

If you get roaming charges near the border call Fido and they should
reverse them.

Andrew

>>Voicestream/TMobile and Fido have an agreement to
>>share coverage near the US/Canada Border. This provides some additional
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Mark
Steve Punter - 24 Jul 2003 17:39 GMT
>You can see this on the south side of Saturna where I have
>found strong Fido coverage, that given the terrain HAD to
>be coming from the south, ie US.

Did your display say Voicestream? If not, then you weren't on Voicestream.
GSM phones always display the name of the network they are locked into,
regardless of what roaming or sharing agreements may be in effect.
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Andrew - 26 Jul 2003 04:56 GMT
I don't recall.

What I do recall was that I was getting a signal from the south and
could make a local call, I think it was a local victoria call. Given
that South is the US, and the cove I was in had solid rock between me
and Victoria on the West one side and Vancovuer on the North East, it
had to be coming from a tower in the Washington State.

>>You can see this on the south side of Saturna where I have
>>found strong Fido coverage, that given the terrain HAD to
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> GSM phones always display the name of the network they are locked into,
> regardless of what roaming or sharing agreements may be in effect.
 
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