Can someone clarify the following for me? I keep getting conflicting
information from the Fido customer service droids..
Will the HipTop work as a GPRS modem, in hooking up a laptop to it
(presumably via USB port on the back of the hiptop), versus using the
HipTop's own built in browser/email, etc etc?
One Fido rep says yes (and goes as far as saying cable and software
for up to WinXp is included), and another says no..
Since the HipTop appears to be as capable of any of Fido's GPRS data
enabled phones (Much more so in many respects), it would make sense
that this WOULD be the case, but I can't get a clear answer. The
website seems to suggest it's a compatible GPRS data device on some
pages, and on others it says that the USB connection is for "Recovery
Only"...whatever that means.
Obviously, the HipTop is GPRS Data capable due to it's very nature,
but if so, why can't it be used as a standalone GPRS modem then, much
like one of Fido's GPRS Data capable phone models?
On eBay, there seems to be a plethora of "Hiptop Data Cables"
available, with descriptions that lead me to beleive that the unit
*can* be used as a true GPRS modem, utilizing a laptop hookup.....
Can anyone confirm for me? I've had the chance to sample a
functioning HipTop, and am eyeing one up for myself when I jump ship
from Bell, but having the ability to hook my laptop up to the HipTop
and use it as a modem would be the cincher...but there's no clear
answer at this point.
Also, for those who have a HipTop at this point, how do you find the
browser? I found it surprisingly agile and functional, but then
again, I only used it for about 5 minutes tops.
Also, does the included holster/carying case protect the screen and
the unit (fors the most part) against scratches and scuffs? I go to
alot of industrial/commercial environments, and with my phone
holstered on my belt, it often gets scuffs and scrapes that I'd rather
be absorbed by a carrying case.
Thanks everyone...any info appreciated.
james - 01 Apr 2004 23:33 GMT
No it won't work as a modem. The Hiptop uses GPRS, yes, but its is
run through Danger's server in California, not Fido's. That is why
the Hiptop has its own special Data price plan.
IU have found it works very well for what it does. Javascript is
missing, but the experience browsing is very smooth and for the most
part as fast as possible on GPRS.
> Can someone clarify the following for me? I keep getting conflicting
> information from the Fido customer service droids..
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> Thanks everyone...any info appreciated.
Mark Morissette - 02 Apr 2004 04:11 GMT
>No it won't work as a modem. The Hiptop uses GPRS, yes, but its is
>run through Danger's server in California, not Fido's. That is why
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>missing, but the experience browsing is very smooth and for the most
>part as fast as possible on GPRS.
Hmm.. Okay, that pretty much answers my question about that.. :-)
Does anyone know *what* the USB port on the back of the HipTop can be
used for, then?
mistaroboto - 02 Apr 2004 16:13 GMT
> Does anyone know *what* the USB port on the back of the HipTop can be
> used for, then?
Only used when there is a complete unit/system failure, to reload firmware.
Mark Morissette - 03 Apr 2004 01:39 GMT
>> Does anyone know *what* the USB port on the back of the HipTop can be
>> used for, then?
>
>Only used when there is a complete unit/system failure, to reload firmware.
Hmm.. Okay..that kinda sucks.. :-)
/dreaming of hooking up laptop, keyboard... <grin>
Still a neat unit through... Anyone else have any opinions on the
overall functionality as a whole, on the long-term basis? I'm
judging everything I know about the thing based on the 5 minutes I
used a demo one day at the Fido booth.. :-)
Basically, I have the luxury of a job where I often have lots of time
to kill, although in a vehicle nowhere near a telephone jack for
traditional modem connections... Basically, I'm looking at using it
pretty much like this:
30% Phone use
10% Email
30% SMS
30% Browsing the net..just plain killing time..
My biggest concern is the actual functionality of the browser, when it
comes to usefullness.. I was surprised when I breifly checked it out
on the demo, but again, it's tough to base a decision on a moments
sample..
newsgroups - 24 Apr 2004 05:54 GMT
Mark is completely correct the data port was designed for restoring the rom
via usb cable. As for the device it is a great device programing wise. It's
lack of java scripting is very unfortunate and takes away from it's glamour.
Most site use some sort of scripting to login to services eg. email, ring
tones. But the biggest penalty is it's flimsy design the unit is notorious
for failing. Scroll wheel, backlight, Screen Hinge, keys not responding,
Poor audio and reception, In fact the phone is pretty much useless unless
you can tolerate the noise and fuzz. Not all hip tops are the same some have
better audio but it's very rare. Maybe a reincarnation of the unit will
emerge and danger will release a new version that is built solid with less
chance of failure and also improve the reception. If your lucky and there
are a a lot of people that have good units then for the most part you will
be pleasently surprised.
SG
> >> Does anyone know *what* the USB port on the back of the HipTop can be
> >> used for, then?
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> on the demo, but again, it's tough to base a decision on a moments
> sample..
mistaroboto - 26 Apr 2004 15:23 GMT
I've used mine daily (as a data orientated device only though) for almost 8
months and it has none of the issue you note below.
> Mark is completely correct the data port was designed for restoring the rom
> via usb cable. As for the device it is a great device programing wise. It's
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> > on the demo, but again, it's tough to base a decision on a moments
> > sample..