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Cellular Phone Forum / General / GSM / April 2004cellular jamming
> >Hmmmm, are you a lawyer or just an excitable indivdual? There are > >already technolgies that actively interupt GSM networks for use in > >prescribed public places. > > Not legally in the United States. > > I am a communication Engineer and specialize in Cellular of late. I deal with > the FCC almost daily on the legalities of building, installing and comissioning > cellular systems. > > Tell me where they are interrupting service and I will see to it that they are > shut down and fined appropriatly. You might be interested in this Israel company: http://www.netline.co.il/ looks like they specialize in cellular jamming technology cellular detection etc.. and will probably sell to anyone interested. Is it illegal if the jamming signal does not leave the premisies of the "protected" area - like a movie theater? I.e. is it illegal because such device transmits a jamming signal or is it illegal because it interrupts the cellular communications - the same could also be achieved by appropriatelly shielding the building walls and i don't see anything illegal about that.(Of course this would be much more costly) T.P. ______________________ http://www.deimos.pl the best ringtones, logos and more >> >Hmmmm, are you a lawyer or just an excitable indivdual? There are >> >already technolgies that actively interupt GSM networks for use in [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > by appropriatelly shielding the building walls and i don't see anything > illegal about that.(Of course this would be much more costly) The portable one would be a useful device to have in the cinema and theatre, where some c.nts start using their phones. http://www.netline.co.il/LP.htm  SignatureMichael Turner Email (ROT13) zvxr.gheare1963@ivetva.arg >Is it illegal if the jamming signal does not leave the premisies of the >"protected" area - like a movie theater? Why do you persist - here in the United States it is illegal if you can breathe. Any airspace in the United States regardless of whether it is inside a building or outside in the middle of a corn feild. is regulated by the FCC. -- John S. e-mail responses to - john at kiana dot net >>Is it illegal if the jamming signal does not leave the premisies of the >>"protected" area - like a movie theater? > > Why do you persist - here in the United States it is illegal if you can > breathe. Any airspace in the United States regardless of whether it is inside a > building or outside in the middle of a corn feild. is regulated by the FCC. And there are some of us that don't give a rat's furry butt what the FCC likes. Signaturejer email reply - I am not a 'ten' ICQ = 35253273 "All that we do is touched with ocean, yet we remain on the shore of what we know." -- Richard Wilbur >And there are some of us that don't give a rat's furry butt what the >FCC likes. too bad that you are too stupid to know the difrerence between right and wrong. Also, you are definatly an a.shole! A GREAT BIG a.shole!!!!! Just block my phone and let me find out and you are probably going to spend a LOT of time in a hospiatl ward you dumb f.cking a.shole........ Christ that felt good!!!!!!! -- John S. e-mail responses to - john at kiana dot net Forget our medication today did we? | >And there are some of us that don't give a rat's furry butt what the | >FCC likes. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] | John S. | e-mail responses to - john at kiana dot net >Forget our medication today did we? No, there are just some things I hate more than anything in the world. Among them is someone interfering with my rights. Like this a.shole might do if I were to walk into his place of business. Or, for instance, I fully respect the right of people to protest. 100's of thousands can protest and have their march on whatever - right to the point that it interferes with my right to walk the opposite direction in my pursuit of happiness...... Then my medication goes out the window. Watch out! -- John S. e-mail responses to - john at kiana dot net > >Forget our medication today did we? > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > John S. > e-mail responses to - john at kiana dot net I suppose you probably also support "smoker's rights". Just a hunch. >I suppose you probably also support "smoker's rights". Just a hunch. Smokers can smoke around me as long as all smoke goes in and doesn't come out. Smokers have to be the stupidest people on the face of the earth. With all we know about the dangers of smoking for the smokers and those around them, and they still do it????? Now how STUPID is that. There is a saying that I don't know who said it, but having a smoking area in a resturant is kinda like having a peeing area in a swimming pool. Again, kinda like walking down the street - I don't care if they kill themselves as long as nothing second hand interferes with my ability to remain alive. -- John S. e-mail responses to - john at kiana dot net >>Forget our medication today did we? > >No, there are just some things I hate more than anything in the world. > >Among them is someone interfering with my rights. Like this a.shole might do if >I were to walk into his place of business. In some parts of the world a place of business is considered as a private place. I would guess that the a.shole's rights takes precedent over yours. >In some parts of the world a place of business is considered as a >private place. I would guess that the a.shole's rights takes precedent >over yours. I'm not in some parts of the world, I am in the USA and he is talking about the USA. -- John S. e-mail responses to - john at kiana dot net > >In some parts of the world a place of business is considered as a > >private place. I would guess that the a.shole's rights takes precedent > >over yours. > > I'm not in some parts of the world, I am in the USA and he is talking about the > USA. Wannnhhhhh....someone wants to take away my right to be a rude jerk in public...wannhhhh >>Forget our medication today did we? > > No, there are just some things I hate more than anything in the world. > > Among them is someone interfering with my rights. Like this a.shole might do if > I were to walk into his place of business. It's his place of business. If you don't like his rules (no cell phone use), then don't do business with him. I used to drink at bars like this in Amsterdam. The rules were clearly posted and the bouncers were agressive enforcers. If I didn't like it, I could have chosen to drink somewhere else. A couple of quotes for you: The common man is the sovereign consumer whose buying or abstention from buying ultimately determines what should be produced and in what quantity and quality. -- Ludwig von Mises The free market is the only mechanism that has ever been discovered for achieving participatory democracy. -- Milton Friedman in the Introduction to the Fiftieth Anniversary Edition of The Road to Serfdom SignatureVoyager Webmaster: http://www.hackfaq.org >>>Forget our medication today did we? >> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > achieving participatory democracy. -- Milton Friedman in the Introduction > to the Fiftieth Anniversary Edition of The Road to Serfdom Well said. Yes, my venue is a resort attended by many people that made their choice particularly because of the 'no cell phone' policy. Enforcement was never an issue until some pompous a.s thought his sh.t didn't stink and repeatedly violated this policy (with complaints from others) until I was forced to find other quarters - trust me, I made no effort to consider suitability. These people paid good money for their peace and quiet, and I'm not going to offer exceptions because a. I don't have to and b. they don't have to. Still, occasionally I'll spot someone attempting to violate this policy - surreptitiously trying to figure why their toy won't work. We have free house phones available out of hearing distance from the other guests, and they were made aware of all this when they booked, so their fiddling around goes just like their cell phone, unanswered. There are other resorts in the area without this policy, and remain unaffected by mine, so the choice is truly theirs to make. I've made mine. Rights...? Where? When? Signaturejer email reply - I am not a 'ten' ICQ = 35253273 "All that we do is touched with ocean, yet we remain on the shore of what we know." -- Richard Wilbur > >And there are some of us that don't give a rat's furry butt what the > >FCC likes. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > John S. > e-mail responses to - john at kiana dot net Wow, I sure would be interested in hiring a person with this kind of attitude. NOT. >>And there are some of us that don't give a rat's furry butt what the >>FCC likes. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > John S. > e-mail responses to - john at kiana dot net Yo, John, put the vein back in your head. I understand that some may think I'm an a.shole. (I may well be, but that's another kettle of fish) It also doesn't mean we don't have to put up with anyone's cell phone in any venue where they present a serious disruption to everyone attending. I have no problem with cell phones using a vibrating mechanism for alerting the user of an incoming call. I have no problem with that user answering and promptly asking the caller to wait a moment while he/she exits the venue before continuing the conversation. I do have a problem with anyone that has no concern for others, including the FCC. Attempting to deal with the individual user simply causes even more disruption, and I have no intention of dealing with a bureaucracy that has already proven their own lack of concern for cell-free venues. Yes, a few 'bad apples' have spoiled it for others - again. Instead, a cell blocker is quietly installed, turned on, and those attending can quietly get on with their quiet lives letting the rest of the world cope as best it can. Look at it this way John, it's the lesser of two evils. It's simple, there are winners, there are losers. It's my venue. Do the math. Signaturejer email reply - I am not a 'ten' ICQ = 35253273 "All that we do is touched with ocean, yet we remain on the shore of what we know." -- Richard Wilbur http://www.cguard.com/English/latests/index.html http://www.newhousenews.com/archive/story1a092200.html ====================================================== >> >Hmmmm, are you a lawyer or just an excitable indivdual? There are >> >already technolgies that actively interupt GSM networks for use in [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >http://www.deimos.pl >the best ringtones, logos and more |
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