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Webmasteuse - 17 Apr 2004 15:51 GMT

Hi everyone, I set up a new concept for the mobile phone industry, have any
idea where I should start to have my new function integrated within a cell
phone so I can have it patented ?

Thank you.

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michael turner - 17 Apr 2004 18:05 GMT

> Hi everyone, I set up a new concept for the mobile phone industry, have any
> idea where I should start to have my new function integrated within a cell
> phone so I can have it patented ?

Take out the patent first, so no one else can copy your idea.

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Jer - 17 Apr 2004 20:42 GMT

> Hi everyone, I set up a new concept for the mobile phone industry, have any
> idea where I should start to have my new function integrated within a cell
> phone so I can have it patented ?
>
> Thank you.

Seek the professional services of a patent attorney first. Then, after
the ink is dry, come back and we'll chat.

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Webmasteuse - 18 Apr 2004 09:30 GMT

But don't I need to have at least one example of my product "built" (the
chip) to have it pattented ?

> > Hi everyone, I set up a new concept for the mobile phone industry, have any
> > idea where I should start to have my new function integrated within a cell
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> Seek the professional services of a patent attorney first. Then, after
> the ink is dry, come back and we'll chat.

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Jer - 18 Apr 2004 13:46 GMT

> But don't I need to have at least one example of my product "built" (the
> chip) to have it pattented ?

No, not at all. Initially, only the conceptual design of the product is
granted a "design" patent, not the product itself. Actually building a
prototype comes later in the patent granting process. I'm not a patent
attorney, but I've been through the process - prepare for a bumpy road.

Start here: http://www.uspto.gov/web/patents/howtopat.htm

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Webmasteuse - 18 Apr 2004 14:06 GMT

SO it means I can have it protected and then produced ?

> > But don't I need to have at least one example of my product "built" (the
> > chip) to have it pattented ?
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>
> Start here: http://www.uspto.gov/web/patents/howtopat.htm

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Jer - 19 Apr 2004 00:24 GMT

> SO it means I can have it protected and then produced ?

Well, yeah, kinda... a patent attorney is much better at explaining the
detailed steps required. Your attorney acts as a proxy between you and
the USPTO, there's a lotta paper work involved, and most clients pay
attorney fees as they go - don't accept a offer to pay all fees up
front, because if your attorney runs into a show-stopper at some point,
that game is over, and you choose to start another sttempt from the
beginning - again. As far as choosing a patent attorney, get references
and talk to ALL of them. Some larger cities have patent firms available
that have a staff in this speciality.

Luck with your idea

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IEB - 18 Apr 2004 14:20 GMT

For something to be patented, it has to be manufacturable, not necessarily
manufactured. (i.e. not a theoretical idea).

If it's patentable, tell as few people as possible under Non-Disclosure
Agreements, otherwise if it becomes general knowledge, it cannot be
patentable.

Try here http://www.patent.gov.uk/ for some advice, it covers the UK, but
I'm sure a similar approach in your country (if you're outside the UK) will
be applicable.

Oh, and be prepared to spend lots of money and time before you can tell
anyone about it, let alone market and selling it..

IEB

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> But don't I need to have at least one example of my product "built" (the
> chip) to have it pattented ?
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> > Seek the professional services of a patent attorney first. Then, after
> > the ink is dry, come back and we'll chat.

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