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GSM signal strength

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Anun - 29 Aug 2004 05:15 GMT
AT&T put an advertising on TV to show that GSM has stronger signal strength
than CDMA. Is that true?
Ryan - 29 Aug 2004 13:40 GMT
depends on if your closer to a gsm site or a cdma site. I think there ad
was to show that AT&T has more coverage then the CDMA companies.

> AT&T put an advertising on TV to show that GSM has stronger signal strength
> than CDMA. Is that true?
John S. - 29 Aug 2004 14:41 GMT
>AT&T put an advertising on TV to show that GSM has stronger signal strength
>than CDMA. Is that true?

I haven't seen that but I suspct that they didn't.

CDMA, unlike the other technologies will work with a whole lot less signal
strength. So although it might appear that signal strength is an issue, the
comparison is not really a valid one.

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Ryan - 29 Aug 2004 16:53 GMT
I've actually had better luck with gsm and low signal then cdma and no
signal. I live in a rural mountain area so it's hit and miss some times.

>>AT&T put an advertising on TV to show that GSM has stronger signal strength
>>than CDMA. Is that true?
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> John S.
> e-mail responses to - john at kiana dot net
John S. - 29 Aug 2004 21:53 GMT
>I've actually had better luck with gsm and low signal then cdma and no
>signal.

Duh!!!!

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Ryan - 01 Sep 2004 22:16 GMT
Yeah that came out wrong. Duh!! It should have said "I've actually had
better luck with gsm and low signal then cdma and low signal"

>>I've actually had better luck with gsm and low signal then cdma and no
>>signal.
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> John S.
> e-mail responses to - john at kiana dot net
John Navas - 02 Sep 2004 16:24 GMT
>Yeah that came out wrong. Duh!! It should have said "I've actually had
>better luck with gsm and low signal then cdma and low signal"

Of course -- with GSM, unlike CDMA, you get a dedicated channel.

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Jim MacKenzie - 30 Aug 2004 16:00 GMT
> I've actually had better luck with gsm and low signal then cdma and no
> signal. I live in a rural mountain area so it's hit and miss some times.

CDMA loses signal strength as traffic increases on the cell site, so
comparing one to the other is difficult.  At 3 am, CDMA sites may work
better at a given distance than GSM ones.  At 3 pm, the GSM site may be
superior in signal strength and range due to traffic overload on the CDMA
site (the GSM site, if overloaded, will simply reject calls).  Which is
better?  That depends.

Jim
matt weber - 29 Aug 2004 22:52 GMT
>AT&T put an advertising on TV to show that GSM has stronger signal strength
>than CDMA. Is that true?

It will almost always be true, but it is also completely irrelevant.

GSM requires much higher link margins.  The Shannon Theorem shows that
the relationship between bandwidth and channel capacity is realted to
signal to noise ratio.  The data rate for GSM is about 14.4 k bits per
second in a 200Khz channel, 1/8th of the time.

The signaling rate for CDMA is about the same, but in a 1 Mhz+ wide
channel, so it the signal strength can be much lower. CDMA can sustain
the same data rate at far lower signal levels.
 
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