Moto V600 V620 L.A. Useres???

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ScorpionKing@attNOSPAM.net - 30 Nov 2004 16:41 GMT

Hi,

I currently own a Kyocera 7135 on Verizon. The phone is pretty good,
but has way more features then I will ever use. Verizon service is
o.k., but I'm getting hosed on the charges.

I am also not happy with the Verizon store staff. I've been to three
locations and all of the employees look like early releases from jail.
They are just slightly better then useless.

I had tested Tmobile and the V300 at the same time I was testing the
7135. It was the phone that won me over, but the coolness has worn
off now and I am thinking of going back to Tmobil. The phones that
interest me ate the V600 and V620.

This service and phone will be used in Southern CA 99% of the time.
I'd be interested to hear your thoughts and ideas on this.

TIA

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Andy M - Tampa Bay - 30 Nov 2004 18:09 GMT

> Hi,
>
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> TIA

Before you pick the network you want because of the handset, then think
again. Consider the coverage in SoCal. I worked in SoCal (all the way from
Ventura, thru LA, down to the end of OC, east all the way to the eastern
edge of San Bernardino County, right at the Nevada border, and south to
Temecula, complete riverside county. I was working with a company that tests
voice and data signals for all the major carriers. From the data I
collected, I can tell you that Verizon's coverage is way way better than
T-Mobile. If you're going to stay on the freeways and main roads, good for
you, T-Mo is ok there. Once you start taking back roads and forest roads,
the story has changed.

If i were you, I'd stay with Verizon. If i had a chance to flip service
while i was there i'd have changed to verizon, but since my boss was paying
my bill i stuck with t-mo and ended up having plenty of dropped calls.

It's basically your choice. pay a little bit more, get great coverage. pay a
wee bit less, ok so-so coverage. nothing is perfect... same applies to your
handset.

if you don't like store staff, call customer service and complain. it's your
right. maybe they'll give u better service.

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ScorpionKing@attNOSPAM.net - 30 Nov 2004 19:27 GMT

>> Hi,
>>
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>if you don't like store staff, call customer service and complain. it's your
>right. maybe they'll give u better service.

Andy,

Thanks for the reply. It's more then a little more I'm afraid. Maybe
$100/month.

I travel almost the same areas as you did when you were here so your
experience is very relevant, but I do stay mostly to the metro areas
and freeways.

I know it sounds weird, but one of the reasons I like T-mobile is
their customer service in store. Verizon has the most screwed up
stores I've ever seen and T-mobile has the best.

So let me ask you this question just so I consider all things. I
don't use most of the 7135 features on my current phone. I want a
smaller clamshell phone with Blue tooth that has good reception,
sturdy, good sound quality ect. If it could synch with Apple isync
that would be a plus.

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MS - 04 Dec 2004 22:14 GMT

> Before you pick the network you want because of the handset, then think
> again. Consider the coverage in SoCal. I worked in SoCal (all the way from
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> you, T-Mo is ok there. Once you start taking back roads and forest roads,
> the story has changed.

I agree that one should NEVER choose a carrier on the basis of handsets
offered, then be stuck in a one or two year contract with them. If you
absolutely have to have a particular phone model, and your carrier doesn't
offer it, buy it unlocked.

That said--I have T-Mobile coverage in the Los Angeles area, and have good
coverage in most places. No carrier has perfect coverage everywhere, but I
haven't had many problems with T-Mobile reception here. I cannot compare it
to Verizon, as I never used that service. I certainly have MUCH better
coverage with T-Mobile than with my previous carrier Sprint. (It's been over
a year since I used Sprint however, so in all fairness, I don't know if they
have improved since then. But their coverage was pretty bad.)

With T-Mobile I have 1000 anytime minutes, unlimited weekend minutes, free
long distance (so I use my cell phone for all my LD calls, no LD bill), no
roaming charges from anywhere in the USA, for $39.95 per month. I think free
GPRS as well. I don't think I could get a plan that good on any other
carrier. Of course that would be worthless if the coverage were bad, but I
haven't found that to be the case.

If one were to change carriers due to phone availability, I would consider
changing to Cingular, as IMO they have a much better (and larger) GSM phone
selection than T-Mobile, especially in the area of smartphones, which I am
interested in. I hope T-Mobile improves its phone selection. But I wouldn't
change carriers on that account. By the way, the v620 is not available on
T-Mobile. (Is it available anywhere in the USA?)

To investigate more about coverage of T-Mobile in the L.A. area, post to the
TM newsgroup (strangely enough, still called voicestream, one of the NGs
this is posted to), and ask others about their L.A. TM coverage. Also in
forums like Howardforums, etc.

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John Navas - 05 Dec 2004 01:14 GMT

>To investigate more about coverage of T-Mobile in the L.A. area, post to the
>TM newsgroup (strangely enough, still called voicestream, one of the NGs
>this is posted to), and ask others about their L.A. TM coverage. Also in
>forums like Howardforums, etc.

Nothing strange about that -- newsgroup names cannot be changed.

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Al Klein - 05 Dec 2004 03:21 GMT

>With T-Mobile I have 1000 anytime minutes, unlimited weekend minutes, free
>long distance (so I use my cell phone for all my LD calls, no LD bill)

Totally OT, but have you told your wireline phone company to delete
your LD carrier? You pay for having a LD carrier, even if you never
make a call. And there's no law that says that you have to have a LD
carrier, contrary to what some reps insist on.

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MS - 06 Dec 2004 05:50 GMT

> Totally OT, but have you told your wireline phone company to delete
> your LD carrier? You pay for having a LD carrier, even if you never
> make a call. And there's no law that says that you have to have a LD
> carrier, contrary to what some reps insist on.

No I don't. I don't pay anything to my long distance phone company, when I
don't make any calls using their service.

True, many plans these days charge a monthly fee, whether you make any calls
or not. But not all. I only pay per call. (Very rare now, since I use my
mobile phone for all domestic LD calls. I haven't had an LD bill in months.)

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