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Int'l Roaming Advice

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E Jones - 24 Jan 2005 14:34 GMT
What is the best prepaid SIM card for international, i.e., European,
roaming?  I would prefer NOT to use one of the services that requires you to
send the phone number to them, then they turn around and ring you back.  My
son will be studying abroad this fall, and I would like to let him take my
European GSM phone with him, but we need an affordable service plan.

TIA,

Earl
Michael Pronay - 24 Jan 2005 16:34 GMT
"E Jones" <earl_jonesx@usax.net> wrote:

> What is the best prepaid SIM card for international, i.e.,
> European, roaming?  I would prefer NOT to use one of the
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> European GSM phone with him, but we need an affordable service
> plan.

It very much depends on the country your son will mainly be
staying, since passive calls in the home network are free in
Europe, while they are quite expensive when roaming outside the
country of the issuing network.

M.
E Jones - 24 Jan 2005 17:43 GMT
He will be living and studying in the UK, but probably taking frequent
weekend trips to other European countries, since the school runs only a
four-day class week, leaving every Friday, Saturday and Sunday available for
travel.

Does this help in suggesting a solution?

- ESJ

> > What is the best prepaid SIM card for international, i.e.,
> > European, roaming?  I would prefer NOT to use one of the
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>
> M.
Richard Nelson - 25 Jan 2005 01:47 GMT
My daughter and I were in UK & Paris last summer and I picked up a Virgin
Mobile SIM for about $12 which included 5BP airtime. Roaming from Paris
wasn't too expensive.  My daughter is going back this spring to study in the
UK so I picked up a Nokia 3100 that's a 850/1800/1900 tribander so she can
use it here on Cingular/AT&T and Virgin in the UK (Virgin is 1800
exclusively in the UK).  As for calling home, I have  Vonage phone service
and for $5/mo I can get a local London number so calling home will be a
local call.

Note that Virgin Mobil UK is GSM and Virgin Mobil in the US is CDMA
(Sprint).  If you are interested I'll find the name of the outfit that sold
me the Virgin SIM, they were very good.

-Dick

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> He will be living and studying in the UK, but probably taking frequent
> weekend trips to other European countries, since the school runs only a
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>> M.
R. P. - 25 Jan 2005 07:51 GMT
> He will be living and studying in the UK, but probably taking frequent
> weekend trips to other European countries, since the school runs only
> a
> four-day class week, leaving every Friday, Saturday and Sunday
> available for
> travel.

   So they won't have any home assignments there?  Where were these
schools when I was at that age?

Rudy
Donald N - 24 Jan 2005 19:17 GMT
Define "best".

Donald Newcomb
DRNewcomb (at) attglobal (dot) net
E Jones - 24 Jan 2005 20:15 GMT
I originally was going to define "best" as meaning "cheapest."  I think,
though, that I define "best" as being "cheapest, without having to use
"callback" dialling."  I know that "best" is subjective, and depends on
usage patterns, features, etc.  So here is the combination of features that
would qualify as "best" in this case:

Low rates between Europe and the USA.
Direct calling, without using "callback"
Coverage of Western Euope (don't need Australia, Middle East, Africa, Asia,
etc.)
SMS and Voicemail

> Define "best".
>
> Donald Newcomb
> DRNewcomb (at) attglobal (dot) net
Donald Newcomb - 26 Jan 2005 04:13 GMT
> I originally was going to define "best" as meaning "cheapest."  I think,
> though, that I define "best" as being "cheapest, without having to use
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> etc.)
> SMS and Voicemail

I thought I answered this but it looks like maybe not. What I'd suggest is
that he get an Orange prepaid to use in UK and either a Travelfone or Riing
to use while roaming. The last two (I believe) do use a "callback" system
but most roaming prepaids do. He could get a Mobal for roaming and not have
to do the "callback" routine but calls will be much more expensive. I think
you can find information about each of these on the Prepaid GSM website
(www.prepaidgsm.net)

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Sbeep - 25 Jan 2005 08:05 GMT
It also depends how long he is going to stay in Europe. If it is for a
school year, it would probably be cheaper to get a subscription, especially
since he will also probably get a free phone out of it. That way Dad can
keep his GEM to use when he comes to visit. I would suggest either Vodafone
or Orange since they are present in most European countries, and have
reduced roaming rates if you are a subscriber. With a prepaid sim card you
get charged full rate, and if the card runs out while you are out of the UK
you are out of luck.
> What is the best prepaid SIM card for international, i.e., European,
> roaming?  I would prefer NOT to use one of the services that requires you
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>
> Earl
Joseph - 25 Jan 2005 15:52 GMT
>It also depends how long he is going to stay in Europe. If it is for a
>school year, it would probably be cheaper to get a subscription, especially
>since he will also probably get a free phone out of it. That way Dad can
>keep his GEM to use when he comes to visit.

Which will likely not be an option available to him since to get
monthly subscription service requires a satisfactory *local* credit
score.  He might be able to get service by putting down a substantial
deposit but barring that he will likely not be able to get monthly
subscription service.
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Richie - 04 Feb 2005 13:53 GMT
I experienced running out of funds in my sim card outside the issuing
country in Europe.  It's nearly impossible to recharge your sim card outside
the issuing country.

With a prepaid sim card you
> get charged full rate, and if the card runs out while you are out of the
> UK you are out of luck.
Donald Newcomb - 05 Feb 2005 00:46 GMT
> I experienced running out of funds in my sim card outside the issuing
> country in Europe.  It's nearly impossible to recharge your sim card outside
> the issuing country.

This is not always true. Some prepaids can be recharged using top-up cards
from the same carrier in another country (e.g Vodafone UK/Italy). Others can
be recharged if you purchased top-up cards and brought them with you. Some
can be topped-up with a credit card, although often (but not always) it has
to be a credit card from the country where the card is based.

But your point is well taken, and often true. My Irish Meteor SIM expired
because I had no way to apply the top-ups I had, from outside of Ireland.
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John Phillips - 05 Feb 2005 01:01 GMT
> But your point is well taken, and often true. My Irish Meteor SIM expired
> because I had no way to apply the top-ups I had, from outside of Ireland.

Ideal situation, of course, would be the ability to top up via a web page.

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