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SIM Toolkit and NMR  in idle mode

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asciz - 07 Apr 2005 20:26 GMT
Hi list,

I am trying to work out from the GSM specs which parameters in NMR
(Network Measurement Results) that are valid when the phone is in idle
mode.
All I can see in 11.14 is that RXLEV-FULL-SERVING-CELL is the only
paramenter one can rely on and that "some of the returned parameters
(e.g. RXQUAL) may be invalid".

Does anyone know how to work out more precicely which parameters are
valid?
Also, any idea of how often these values are updated in idle mode?

Maybe a hint of which specification I should be looking in?

Many thanks in advance.

asciz
John Henderson - 07 Apr 2005 22:46 GMT
> I am trying to work out from the GSM specs which parameters in
> NMR (Network Measurement Results) that are valid when the
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> Also, any idea of how often these values are updated in idle
> mode?

In general the answer will depend on the phone manufacturer.
The specs tell manufacturers what they must do to claim
compliance, and many do more than the bare minimum.  It's
really up to them.

I use STK to read and log NMR from Siemens phones.  I'm able to
get much the same data (and more) using specific commands on a
Wavecom modem, and I find no real discrepancy between my
Siemens and Wavecom data (ignoring RXQUAL, which is hopeless in
idle mode).  Signal strengths (serving cell and 6 strongest
neighbours) will vary a bit, but that's to be expected.
Reassuringly, I get good agreement on the BSIC and BCCH of the
neighbouring cells, even in dynamic environments.  And most
importantly, BSIC and BCCH always pair with each other exactly.

> Maybe a hint of which specification I should be looking in?

GSM 04.08, as mentioned in GSM 11.14.  And that raises an
interesting issue.  One of the parameters buried within NMR is
the MEAS-VALID bit which "indicates if the measurement results
for the dedicated channel are valid or not" (GSM 04.08, Table
10.5.47).  A strict interpretation of GSM 11.14 indicates that
we shouldn't rely on this bit's value, but my feeling is that
it's probably OK.  It certainly seems to be dependable on
Siemens phones.

As to how often they're updated, my Siemens experience suggests
at least every 10 seconds.

John
 
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