Unh. Bad deal, unfortunately I can't help you. But, I'm looking
forward to seeing you in prague. Good luck!!
S
>Does anyone know if you can buy a Riiing SIM in Amsterdam, like in a
>store? Or is it only available mail order there?
You can buy a lebara card which does the same thing only cheaper in
Telfort shops. For more details go to http://www.lebara-mobile.nl
(There's a Nederlands, English, Turkish, Arabic and another language
which I don't recognize page as well.) Also available at "Bel
Company" in Amsterdam on Leidsestraat, Niewendijk and several other
places in Amsterdam. (Look for locations in Noord-Holland.)
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dgs - 22 May 2005 07:22 GMT
> [...] For more details go to http://www.lebara-mobile.nl
> (There's a Nederlands, English, Turkish, Arabic and another language
> which I don't recognize page as well.)
The other language is Chinese.

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Go Fig - 22 May 2005 09:16 GMT
> >Does anyone know if you can buy a Riiing SIM in Amsterdam, like in a
> >store? Or is it only available mail order there?
>
> You can buy a lebara card which does the same thing only cheaper in
> Telfort shops.
Are incoming calls free in Europe and U.S. ?
jay
Sun May 22, 2005
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> For more details go to http://www.lebara-mobile.nl
> (There's a Nederlands, English, Turkish, Arabic and another language
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Miguel Cruz - 22 May 2005 10:47 GMT
> Are incoming calls free in Europe and U.S. ?
They should be free if you are using a SIM card from the country you're in.
If you are roaming, you'll have to pay roaming charges unless there is some
sort of agreement in effect.
In the US you will have to pay for incoming calls unless your plan provides
so many minutes that you don't notice.
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Charles Hawtrey - 22 May 2005 15:55 GMT
> > Are incoming calls free in Europe and U.S. ?
>
> They should be free if you are using a SIM card from the country you're in.
Calls are free on the incoming side. On the other hand, unlike what
you're accustomed to in the U.S. the calling party will pay a surcharge
for reaching a mobile. This surcharge can be very high depending on
your friends' long-distance provider. If your U.S. friends are likely
to call you while you're in Europe (and you want them to remain your
friends), it would be considerate to alert them to this fact.
> If you are roaming, you'll have to pay roaming charges unless there is some
> sort of agreement in effect.
>
> In the US you will have to pay for incoming calls unless your plan provides
> so many minutes that you don't notice.
The original query apparently was about the Lebara SIM. Their roaming
charges (available in Dutch only) are here:
http://www.lebara-mobile.nl/nederlands/tarieven.htm#inBuitenland
If my limited Dutch is correct you'll pay the same rate for incoming and
outgoing calls while roaming. In most of Europe the standard rate is
EUR 1.30 per minute, and EUR 0.95/min on preferred networks (if I
understand "voordeelnetwerk"). In the U.S. ("V.S.") the rate is EUR1.90
per minute. That's not quite free...
www.simcard.me.uk - 22 May 2005 13:12 GMT
>> >Does anyone know if you can buy a Riiing SIM in Amsterdam, like in a
>> >store? Or is it only available mail order there?
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S Viemeister - 22 May 2005 13:20 GMT
> "Go Fig" <gofig@mac.com> wrote
> >
> > Are incoming calls free in Europe and U.S. ?
>
> There free in Europe on pre pay sims
They're free in the country in which the prepay SIM is issued.
If you roam to another European country, you are likely to be charged for
incoming on _most_ prepays.
Sheila
www.simcard.me.uk - 22 May 2005 15:28 GMT
>> > Are incoming calls free in Europe and U.S. ?
>>
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> Sheila
Yup whem roaming with a pre pay u will be charge for incoming calls
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jcoulter - 22 May 2005 15:36 GMT
>>> > Are incoming calls free in Europe and U.S. ?
>>>
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> www.simcard.me.uk
> http://stores.ebay.co.uk/experimentalist-co-uk
except for most of Europe and several other countries with Riiing.

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Donkey Agony - 22 May 2005 16:20 GMT
>> Yup whem roaming with a pre pay u will be charge for incoming calls
> except for most of Europe and several other countries with Riiing.
Exactly. That's why I ordered the Riiing (which didn't arrive).
But apparently you can't buy them off the shelf in Amsterdam. So I
guess I'll get a Lebara (which seems to have good outgoing rates) or
some other prepaid SIM for Amsterdam, then one for the Czech Republic,
one for Hungary, and one for London. Yikes.

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Don Wiss - 22 May 2005 16:44 GMT
>But apparently you can't buy them off the shelf in Amsterdam. So I
>guess I'll get a Lebara (which seems to have good outgoing rates) or
>some other prepaid SIM for Amsterdam, then one for the Czech Republic,
>one for Hungary, and one for London. Yikes.
Or go phoneless. When I go on vacation I do not check e-mail, nor do I make
or receive phone calls. It's a vacation! If someone must reach me I put my
itinerary on my web site and refer to its URL on my answering machine.
Don <www.donwiss.com> (e-mail link at home page bottom).
No Spam Please - 23 May 2005 04:50 GMT
Hi,
now I do check some of my mail on the road...
work mail.
super secret personal mail account
that's about it.
ttyl
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>>But apparently you can't buy them off the shelf in Amsterdam. So I
>>guess I'll get a Lebara (which seems to have good outgoing rates) or
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> Don <www.donwiss.com> (e-mail link at home page bottom).

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Ulrich Neumann - 22 May 2005 14:13 GMT
>>You can buy a lebara card which does the same thing only cheaper in
>>Telfort shops.
>
> Are incoming calls free in Europe and U.S. ?
No. Using a Lebara card incoming calls are only free when you are in the
Netherlands. See their website for details.
Ulrich
Go Fig - 22 May 2005 15:07 GMT
> >>You can buy a lebara card which does the same thing only cheaper in
> >>Telfort shops.
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> No. Using a Lebara card incoming calls are only free when you are in the
> Netherlands. See their website for details.
It wasn't very clear on the English site... thanx for the info.
jay
Sun May 22, 2005
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> Ulrich
Joseph - 22 May 2005 15:15 GMT
>Are incoming calls free in Europe and U.S. ?
Incoming with very few exceptions is not free in the US. Definitely
not free for Riing or lebara.
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Go Fig - 22 May 2005 17:07 GMT
> >Are incoming calls free in Europe and U.S. ?
>
> Incoming with very few exceptions is not free in the US. Definitely
> not free for Riing or lebara.
I haven't used it yet, but incoming calls are free w/ Riiing:
> Riiing - the new way of low-priced mobile calling:
> • Mobile calling within more than 100 countries. (Click here)
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> • Most favourable international rates for all countries
> • SIM-card can be used with any mobile phone
> • Incoming calls free of charge in more than 60 countries
> • SMS can be received world-wide free of charge
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Charles Hawtrey - 22 May 2005 17:19 GMT
> > >Are incoming calls free in Europe and U.S. ?
> >
> > Incoming with very few exceptions is not free in the US. Definitely
> > not free for Riing or lebara.
>
> I haven't used it yet, but incoming calls are free w/ Riiing:
Incoming calls are free to the called party only in what Riiing calls
"Zone 1" countries.
In the U.S. (Zone 7), incoming calls on Riing are EUR0.99 per minute.
Joseph - 23 May 2005 01:52 GMT
>I haven't used it yet, but incoming calls are free w/ Riiing:
You'd best check again. The only free incoming mobile in the US is
with some monthly plans with Nextel. None of the others offer any
kind of free incoming plan in the US. That would more than likely be
with Riiing's roaming partners (T-Mobile and cingular.)
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>>I haven't used it yet, but incoming calls are free w/ Riiing:
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Incoming calls are free with riing in many but not all of its operating
areas. Any that are in the first group are free. the US is one ofthe most
expensive areas to use any roaming (yes there are places with higher but
not in the developed countries commonly refered to as the West.

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Mike O'Sullivan - 22 May 2005 09:57 GMT
> You can buy a lebara card which does the same thing only cheaper in
> Telfort shops. For more details go to http://www.lebara-mobile.nl
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Does anyone know if there is anything similar in Copenhagen?
Donkey Agony - 22 May 2005 12:22 GMT
> You can buy a lebara card which does the same thing only cheaper in
> Telfort shops. For more details go to http://www.lebara-mobile.nl
> (There's a Nederlands, English, Turkish, Arabic and another language
> which I don't recognize page as well.) Also available at "Bel
> Company" in Amsterdam on Leidsestraat, Niewendijk and several other
> places in Amsterdam. (Look for locations in Noord-Holland.)
It is indeed cheaper I see, at least inside the Netherlands. It doesn't
look quite as seamless as the Riiing when roaming from country to
country. But it's certainly looks like a viable alternative.
Thank you! *Especially* for providing the name and locations of where I
can go purchase one of these when I get off the plane!

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Deep Foiled Malls - 22 May 2005 20:10 GMT
>Thank you! *Especially* for providing the name and locations of where I
>can go purchase one of these when I get off the plane!
10 points for your screen name. :o)

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>I purchased a Riiing SIM from a German company off Ebay May 9th for a trip
>I'm taking tomorrow (the 22nd) to Europe. Bad Move. They shipped it the
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> Does anyone know if you can buy a Riiing SIM in Amsterdam, like in a
> store? Or is it only available mail order there?
Mate roaming cardss are a ripp off your better of with a pre pay card for
the country your going to. I could had a pre pay sim to you in around 3 days
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