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Receiving Foreign Breaking News Via Text

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franzen_torres@yahoo.com - 14 Dec 2005 21:31 GMT
Does anyone know how I go about receiving breaking news from the
Philippines through my Globe GSM cell phone with international roaming
turned on? I am in the US and the SIM card in the phone is from the
Philippines. For example, the local INQ7 Inquirer newspaper in Manila
is offering a subscription service whereby they send you a text message
with the latest news developments 3 times a day for 2.50 pesos per day.
To subscribe I'm supposed to text "ON BREAKING NEWS" to the number
2207.

However, I''m in the US and when I text to "2207" I get an error
message saying "undeliverable". So how should I format the number -
should it be +63+2207? or 011+63+2207? or 011+63+917+2207? I've tried
all these combinations but they don't seem to work.

Any help with this or any other similar news service would be very much
appreciated. Thanks much.
John Henderson - 14 Dec 2005 22:36 GMT
> Does anyone know how I go about receiving breaking news from
> the Philippines through my Globe GSM cell phone with
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> 011+63+917+2207? I've tried all these combinations but they
> don't seem to work.

Have you tried

       +632207

- that's the correct way of addressing it internationally.

John
John Henderson - 15 Dec 2005 04:16 GMT
> To subscribe I'm supposed to text "ON BREAKING NEWS" to the
> number 2207.

Please note that http://www.inq7.net/index_network.htm says to
send "ON EXTRA BREAKING" to 2207.  This would normally be
entered as +632207, if it's a Philippines-specific number and
being sent through a foreign SMSC.

John
Chris Blunt - 16 Dec 2005 06:53 GMT
>> To subscribe I'm supposed to text "ON BREAKING NEWS" to the
>> number 2207.
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>entered as +632207, if it's a Philippines-specific number and
>being sent through a foreign SMSC.

He's using a Globe phone while roaming overseas, which will be
configured with Globe's SMSC, so sending to 2207 (without any prefix)
should work fine.

Chris
John Henderson - 16 Dec 2005 08:59 GMT
> He's using a Globe phone while roaming overseas, which will be
> configured with Globe's SMSC, so sending to 2207 (without any
> prefix) should work fine.

Agreed, except that it doesn't work, according to the original
post - he reports "undeliverable" to 2207.

I also reported a discrepancy in message content between the
OP's text and that required by the web site I found.  But that
wouldn't make the subscription request undeliverable.

I would expect +632207 to work universally (to Philippines
2207), from anywhere using any SMSC.  I couldn't be sure that
the OP's SMSC setting had been changed in any way.  Or
"proxied" somehow for that matter - I note that the SMSC
address embedded within delivered SMS headers sometimes differ
from that configured in the originating phone.

A very important question for the OP is whether SMSs can be sent
and read in both directions between his phone in the US and
normal cell phones in the Philippines.

John
mrcamp - 16 Dec 2005 23:54 GMT
Since OP would be roaming here in the US with his phillipines sim, I no
think receiving SMS would be an issue. He just needs to set it up first
And, he may only be able to do that while on the home network of th
sim

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mrcamp
John Henderson - 17 Dec 2005 02:54 GMT
> Since OP would be roaming here in the US with his phillipines
> sim, I not think receiving SMS would be an issue. He just
> needs to set it up first. And, he may only be able to do that
> while on the home network of the sim.

I don't think it should be an issue either.  But when diagnosing
problems, we should "leave no stone unturned".

John
Chris Blunt - 18 Dec 2005 17:11 GMT
>> He's using a Globe phone while roaming overseas, which will be
>> configured with Globe's SMSC, so sending to 2207 (without any
>> prefix) should work fine.
>
>Agreed, except that it doesn't work, according to the original
>post - he reports "undeliverable" to 2207.

I just arrived in the UK from Manila this morning and gave this a try
with my Globe phone while roaming here. A blank message I sent to 2207
(without any prefix) was sent without any problem. A response came
back saying that I hadn't entered any keywords in the message, so that
appears to confirm it did get delivered correctly.

Chris
John Henderson - 18 Dec 2005 19:27 GMT
> I just arrived in the UK from Manila this morning and gave
> this a try with my Globe phone while roaming here. A blank
> message I sent to 2207 (without any prefix) was sent without
> any problem. A response came back saying that I hadn't entered
> any keywords in the message, so that appears to confirm it did
> get delivered correctly.

Absolutely - I think this is what we'd both expect.  Analysis of
message content isn't part of standards which cover message
storage and delivery.  I'd find it of academic interest to know
whether the same blank SMS to +632207 got the same response.

Without further input from the OP, there's not much more to
suggest at this stage.

John
Chris Blunt - 19 Dec 2005 12:26 GMT
>> I just arrived in the UK from Manila this morning and gave
>> this a try with my Globe phone while roaming here. A blank
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>storage and delivery.  I'd find it of academic interest to know
>whether the same blank SMS to +632207 got the same response.

I just tried that, and it gives a "message has not been sent" error.

>Without further input from the OP, there's not much more to
>suggest at this stage.

The only suggestion I would make is for him to check that his phone is
configured to use the correct SMSC. Mine is set to use +639170000130.

Chris
John Henderson - 19 Dec 2005 18:44 GMT
>>> I just arrived in the UK from Manila this morning and gave
>>> this a try with my Globe phone while roaming here. A blank
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> phone is configured to use the correct SMSC. Mine is set to
> use +639170000130.

Thanks Chris,

I agree.  But I'm surprised the international format address
doesn't work.

John
Simon VK3XEM - 19 Dec 2005 18:55 GMT
>>>>I just arrived in the UK from Manila this morning and gave
>>>>this a try with my Globe phone while roaming here. A blank
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>
> John

I suspect the reason the international format doesn't work is that it
only routes it to the specific country and not a specific carrier.

If it is routed by a specific SMSC it would have more of a chance of
reaching it's destination, as it is an abbreviated or virtual number
provided by that carrier it makes things a little more difficult.

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John Henderson - 19 Dec 2005 20:32 GMT
> I suspect the reason the international format doesn't work is
> that it only routes it to the specific country and not a
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> or virtual number provided by that carrier it makes things a
> little more difficult.

Interesting.  I would have sworn that Telstra PocketNews worked
to +61176 as well as the publicised 176 through a Telstra SMSC.

But I've just checked it through +61176, and the SMS lodgement
was rejected.

John
Simon VK3XEM - 19 Dec 2005 21:07 GMT
>>I suspect the reason the international format doesn't work is
>>that it only routes it to the specific country and not a
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> John

From what I can gather is the phone automatically includes the
international format.  I am on 3 Aus but if I tried to send +61176 or
176 my 3 SMSC it won't recognise it and reject it because it is
basically a shortcut on the Telstra network.

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73 de Simon, VK3XEM.
http://web.acma.gov.au/pls/radcom/client_search.client_lookup?pCLIENT_NO=157452

 
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