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good idea to buy gsm phones from ebay?

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peter - 16 Dec 2005 18:41 GMT
I want to get a gsm phone to use with t-mobile prepaid service. However
t-mobile prepaid only sell a few phones and are not cheap.

Is it advisable to buy gsm phones from ebay? I'm looking for dual band (850
+ 1900) flip phone and nothing fancy.
John Navas - 16 Dec 2005 21:02 GMT
>I want to get a gsm phone to use with t-mobile prepaid service. However
>t-mobile prepaid only sell a few phones and are not cheap.
>
>Is it advisable to buy gsm phones from ebay? I'm looking for dual band (850
>+ 1900) flip phone and nothing fancy.

Buy with care and you should be fine.  You'll need either a T-Mobile phone, or
an unlocked phone.

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mrcamp - 16 Dec 2005 23:49 GMT
It's a very good idea indeed. Just verify the sellers feedback. In fact
you can check Cibgular's site, they are selling some triband phones fo
real cheap at the moment. You will have to unlock it to use it wit
tmobile though. The Nokias can usually be unlocked for free

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John Navas - 19 Dec 2005 06:27 GMT
>It's a very good idea indeed. Just verify the sellers feedback. In fact,
>you can check Cibgular's site, they are selling some triband phones for
>real cheap at the moment. You will have to unlock it to use it with
>tmobile though. The Nokias can usually be unlocked for free.

Be warned that sellers feedback can be faked (e.g., with shill bidders).  You
need to also scrutinize current auctions.  And remember that "if it seems too
good to be true, then it probably isn't."

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Geoffrey S. Mendelson - 19 Dec 2005 07:21 GMT
> Be warned that sellers feedback can be faked (e.g., with shill bidders).  You
> need to also scrutinize current auctions.  And remember that "if it seems too
> good to be true, then it probably isn't."

There are other problems that are not obvious. One for example was that
a west coast service provider had a production run made of Motorola
Timeports that where 1900 mHz only, not 900/1800/1900. They still show
up, some sold as if they were triband by private individuals that don't
know the difference and some just sold as that model, with no mention
of the band coverage.

Unfortunately people assume that they are getting the triband model
when they are not.

Another thing to be careful is to make sure a unit bought for use outside
of the U.S. has a multivoltage charger.

Batteries are another issue. In constant use with frequent, if not daily
recharging, Lithium Ion batteries last me about a year. A used phone is
no bargain if you have to buy an unanticipated  battery for it. Some phones
for example, the Motorola 3xx series have non replaceable batteries.

Apple ran into similar problems with their iPods, but Motorola has not
seemed to have learned. My C330's second battery is about to go, the first
having been replaced under the now long expired warranty. My wife's c380
is under a service plan, we'll see what happens when it goes.

If you are visiting friends or family in a foreign country IMHO you should
ask if they have any phones that are no longer in use. For example, the
Nokia 5110 and it's D-AMPS (5120/5125) and 1800 or 1900 mHz cousins were
made by the zillions and in many places you can still pick up a new
battery cheaply and easily.

They are easily unlocked via the web or a freeware windows program, although
many were sold unlocked. They are not small by modern standards or have many
modern features, but for the cost of a replcament battery, rescuing one
for use on a vacation makes a lot of sense.

You could also ask if there are any bargains, for example, a friend picked
up a reconditioned 5110 for 300 NIS ($65) from Orange Israel complete
with a new battery, a pay as you go SIM and a 230 volt charger.

Geoff.


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Frater Mus - 19 Dec 2005 17:00 GMT
> I want to get a gsm phone to use with t-mobile prepaid service. However
> t-mobile prepaid only sell a few phones and are not cheap.
>
> Is it advisable to buy gsm phones from ebay? I'm looking for dual band (850
> + 1900) flip phone and nothing fancy.

I've bought about 10 phones off eBay in the last couple of years
(including unlocked gsm phones) and all worked as advertised.

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Gabe - 21 Dec 2005 18:49 GMT
>I want to get a gsm phone to use with t-mobile prepaid service. However
>t-mobile prepaid only sell a few phones and are not cheap.
>
>Is it advisable to buy gsm phones from ebay? I'm looking for dual band (850
>+ 1900) flip phone and nothing fancy.

There are many Powersellers on Ebay that constantly sell GSM phones at
a steal at times and almost full retail on others (sometimes bidders
go overboard if they want a phone that week).  I got a great working
phone (it was basically brand new but was just the phone, nothing
else) for $5.  Other times I have been so outbid that the final price
was almost as much as a new phone!  Got to be careful with some
surplus dealers as many sell phones that they say work, that they
turned on and it came on or just don't say anything and when you get
it, it's DOA! (I have read many a story about this but have not bought
one from them).  

One good rule of thumb is look for sellers who take Paypal, at least
middle to high double or better yet triple digit feedbacks with very
high to perfect feedback.  Read feedbacks too as sometimes you might
find some neg feedback only to find that its from bitter idiots to
people who just got it late (but in all cases they got the item).
Always assume that if an auction does not mention it, the phone is
locked to whomever the carrier is.  Always price out accessories
before you bid if an item is missing them like chargers, batteries,
etc.  You might find a good price on a phone only item but even on
ebay accessories to be stupid high, making an auction having a higher
price but with everything a deal!  ALWAYS CHECK OUT THE SHIPPING PRICE
BEFORE YOU BID!!!  You might find a nice price on a phone and no one
is bidding on it cause the shipping price is criminal!

Good luck and be diligent.

Gabe
 
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