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Cellular Phone Forum / General / GSM / May 2006Will unlocked T-Mobile RAZR work on Cingular?
If I have an unlocked TMobile Motorola RAZR V3, can I switch to Cingular and use the same phone with no problem? > If I have an unlocked TMobile Motorola RAZR V3, can I switch to Cingular > and use the same phone with no problem? With an unlocked phone you should be able to use Cingular, but with a RAZR, "with no problem" may be a different issue. Sorry, couldn't resist. Huh? I don't get it. > but with a RAZR, > "with no problem" may be a different issue. Sorry, couldn't resist. > If I have an unlocked TMobile Motorola RAZR V3, can I switch to Cingular > and use the same phone with no problem? Should work  Signaturewww.experimentalist.co.uk/shop/index.php Australia, New Zealand, USA, UK, South Africa, Thailand, Brazil Sim Cards & EPIRB. My help forum www.experimentalist.co.uk/forum/index.php >If I have an unlocked TMobile Motorola RAZR V3, can I switch to Cingular >and use the same phone with no problem? Yes, > If I have an unlocked TMobile Motorola RAZR V3, can I switch to Cingular > and use the same phone with no problem? If the RAZR support both the 850 and 1900 bands, it should work. Just 1900 will work, in the areas where Cingular uses 1900. Tmobile is recently offering phones that support both, but traditionally only provided phones with the 1900 band. (And maybe European frequencies). >> If I have an unlocked TMobile Motorola RAZR V3, can I switch to Cingular >> and use the same phone with no problem? > >If the RAZR support both the 850 and 1900 bands, ... The RAZR is quad band. SignatureBest regards, SEE THE FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS AT John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ> > use the same phone with no problem? That would depend on Cingular porting the number. If you are looking to configure your web browser and MMS settings for cingular you will need to set them up manually. Here is the link with the detailed instructions on how to set it up. https://onlinecare.cingular.com/device-support/index.do > If you are looking to configure your web browser and MMS settings for > cingular you will need to set them up manually Those settings are hidden on T-Mobile supplied V3s, but there are utils out there to fix that. >> use the same phone with no problem? > > That would depend on Cingular porting the number. What does "Cingular porting the number" mean? I thought the number was contained on the Sim card? I'm an old Cingular Blue (ATTWS) customer and I'd like to swap my original ATTWS Sim card into a new Razor and continue my service plan. Any problem with that working? >>> use the same phone with no problem? >> >> That would depend on Cingular porting the number. Not true. >What does "Cingular porting the number" mean? I thought the number was >contained on the Sim card? It is. >I'm an old Cingular Blue (ATTWS) customer and I'd like to swap my original >ATTWS Sim card into a new Razor and continue my service plan. Any problem >with that working? No (as explained more fully in my earlier response). SignatureBest regards, SEE THE FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS AT John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ> >>> That would depend on Cingular porting the number. > >Not true. Well maybe the original query was not clear to me? The writer will be using a new SIM card? >>>> That would depend on Cingular porting the number. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >The writer will be using a new SIM card? A T-Mobile SIM won't work on Cingular. Thus a new SIM is needed on Cingular. A Cingular SIM will work with either a new number or a ported number. The OP was only asking if it would work on Cingular, which it will, whether the old T-Mobile number is ported to Cingular or not. SignatureBest regards, SEE THE FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS AT John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ> > I'm an old Cingular Blue (ATTWS) customer and I'd like to swap my > original ATTWS Sim card into a new Razor and continue my service plan. > Any problem with that working? I'll answer my own question here for follow-up searches. I bought a new, unlocked, RAZR V3i and put my ATTWS (Cingular Blue) Sim card in it and it works fine. The first time I turned it on with the Blue Sim card, it took a few extra seconds to find the nCingular network. After that, it's worked fine. The only thing I haven't been able to figure out is how to get the new RAZR V3i to read the phonebook entries my Nokia 6200 saved to my Sim card. The RAZR reads text messages that were saved to the Sim card on the Nokiz 6200, but not the phonebook. Anyone got an idea? You'll need a program like DataPilot. With it, you can read the SIM from your old phone, adjust the entry format, then put the SIM in the new phone and upload it. Your local Cingular office might be able to do it for you. Just tell them to use the same format for the the v3i that they use for the v3. >> I'm an old Cingular Blue (ATTWS) customer and I'd like to swap my >> original ATTWS Sim card into a new Razor and continue my service [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > The RAZR reads text messages that were saved to the Sim card on the > Nokiz 6200, but not the phonebook. Anyone got an idea? > You'll need a program like DataPilot. With it, you can read the SIM > from your old phone, adjust the entry format, then put the SIM in the > new phone and upload it. Thanks, I hadn't heard of DataPilot. I bought a copy of Motorola's Phone Tools v4 with my new phone. It didn't come with a manual, maybe it's on the CD. Is the problem that my new RAZR doesn't understand the phonebook format left on the Sim card by my Nokia? I thought there might be a standard GSM Sim card phonebook format that every GSM phone could read. Odd that it did read the text messages that I received on my Nokia. > Your local Cingular office might be able to do it > for you. Just tell them to use the same format for the the v3i that > they use for the v3. Since I am an old ATTWS (Cingular Blue) customer, I am trying to avoid the Cingular folks... they always push towards a Cingular Orange upgrade... which I might do if I find out that I'll get better coverage... but I like doing things myself. Thanks for the help. > Is the problem that my new RAZR doesn't understand the phonebook format > left on the Sim card by my Nokia? I thought there might be a standard > GSM Sim card phonebook format that every GSM phone could read. Odd that > it did read the text messages that I received on my Nokia. Motorola is crap, that's why it isn't compatible with your Nokia. They might look good but the user interface is a pig to operate and not the least bit user friendly. -- The views I present are that of my own and NOT of any organisation I may belong to. http://web.acma.gov.au/pls/radcom/client_search.client_lookup?pCLIENT_NO=157452 73 de Simon, VK3XEM. > Motorola is crap, that's why it isn't compatible with your Nokia. > They might look good but the user interface is a pig to operate and > not the least bit user friendly. Don't hold back... Tell me what you really think! Hahahaha... I've had a succession of Nokia phones from the beginning. I've always like them and had good luck with them... I bought a RAZR V3i because I wanted bluetooth and liked the sexy look of the phone. It's a matter of opinion and what you're used to. As a long time Motorola user I tried a Nokia and was ready to throw it off a bridge because I found it so irritating to use. I could say that Nokia is "crap" because it's not compatible with Motorola but that's not a fair assessment - it's all in the eyes of the beholder. >> Is the problem that my new RAZR doesn't understand the phonebook >> format left on the Sim card by my Nokia? I thought there might be a [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > might look good but the user interface is a pig to operate and > not the least bit user friendly. >> You'll need a program like DataPilot. With it, you can read the SIM >> from your old phone, adjust the entry format, then put the SIM in the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Phone Tools v4 with my new phone. It didn't come with a manual, maybe > it's on the CD. I set up Motorola's Phone Tools (MPT) over the weekend and synchronized my RAZR with Outlook's Contacts. I only had about 25 contacts, so I just typed them in Outlook and synchronized them into the RAZR. MPT updated to version 4.04 after I installed it and recognized my phone as a V3i, so that was cool. It is unfortunate that the RAZR makes separate entries for each phone number associated with a single contact. My old Nokia 6200 allowed multiple numbers for individual contacts and I got used to it. I'm surprised that the RAZR doesn't allow multiple numbers for a single contact. It does allow you to set a "primary" contact and hide the others behind it. >>> You'll need a program like DataPilot. With it, you can read the SIM >>> from your old phone, adjust the entry format, then put the SIM in [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > surprised that the RAZR doesn't allow multiple numbers for a single > contact. > It does allow you to set a "primary" contact and hide the others > behind it. Ah, thank you. I keep forgetting to press the menu "-" button while I'm in an option. It acts as sort of a context sensitive menu (right click) in Windows. Pressing "Menu" while in the Phone Book and then "Setup" brings up a dialog with several additional options in it. Changing "View by" from "Picture" to "List" makes the phone book listing show in single lines of text. Changing "View" from "All Contacts" to "Primary Contacts" makes multiple numbers for the same name hidden. Pressing the right arrow shows the additional number icons. Very cool. Thanks for the tip! > It does allow you to set a "primary" contact and hide the others behind > it. Yes, but that doesn't seem to be the default on Moto phones. I thought the same thing about my V188 and just recently found that it'll let you show all the contacts under one phonebook entry. SignatureSteve Sobol, Professional Geek ** Java/VB/VC/PHP/Perl ** Linux/*BSD/Windows Apple Valley, CA Resident of Southern California - the home of beautiful people and butt-ugly traffic jams >If I have an unlocked TMobile Motorola RAZR V3, can I switch to Cingular >and use the same phone with no problem? Yes... as noted elsewhere, you need to manually configure it for specific Cingular features. Over here in SoCal, T-Mobile uses the Cingular network and a fully unlocked and unbranded phone displays CINGULAR and ROAMING in place of T-Mobile. However, it is NOT roaming ;-) I fully unlocked and unbranded my RAZR V3 and manually configured it. Once done, it worked as good as any RAZR V3 can ;-) This phone is now with my daughter as I bought myself a new toy... T-Mobile's MDA (great price via CompUSA). The MDA is really a computer with phone capabilities (the SDA is a phone with computer capabilities). Works great though. ______________________ The Traveler Oceanside, California |
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