Home | Contact Us | FAQ | Search & Site Map | Link to Us
Sign In | Join | Other 45 Sites in Network
Home
Discussion Groups
General
General TopicsGSMBluetooth
Providers
AlltelATT WirelessCingularFidoNextelSprint PCST-MobileVerizon
Manufacturers
EricssonNokiaMotorola
Country Specific
Australian GroupUK Group
Related Topics
PocketPCPalmMore Topics ...

Cellular Phone Forum / General / GSM / September 2003

Tip: Looking for answers? Try searching our database.

IMEI ?

Thread view: 
Enable EMail Alerts  Start New Thread
Thread rating: 
ParaG - 20 Sep 2003 02:01 GMT
Hello,

I was wondering if you guys could help me on a very confusing question. What
exactly is an IMEI number? I know that it identifies a particular cell phone
anywhere in the world. What confuses me is that i recently saw a website
where phones were being unlocked but there was a warning not to request for
an IMEI number change....as those who did were reported to the local
authorities. So if the IMEI is such a unique number, then how can someone
possibly change it? Also Lets say an IMEI number is put on the "Invalid"
list...well could a person use the invalid phone in another country, or
would it show up as invalid on any network? Hummm, the confusin world of
telecommunications. Thanks.

---ParaG
Matthew Smith - 20 Sep 2003 04:00 GMT
> I was wondering if you guys could help me on a very confusing question. What
> exactly is an IMEI number? I know that it identifies a particular cell phone
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> would it show up as invalid on any network? Hummm, the confusin world of
> telecommunications. Thanks.

IMEI = International Mobile Equipment Identity number

It identifies the actual phone. It doesn't not identify the phone
service in the GSM system. That is done by the IMSI (International
Mobile Subscriber Identity) which is stored in the SIM (Subscriber
Identity Module??).

A locked phone is one which will only accept a SIM for a specific
network provider. Unlocking allows a SIM from any network be used with
the phone.

> So if the IMEI is such a unique number, then how can someone possibly
> change it?

Just because the number is unique does not mean that it can't be
changed. A phone number is unique and can be changed. On a lot of phones
the IMEI is stored in a memory location which allows it to be changed by
some means. It had to get there in the first place. For a lot of
networks and countries, when a GSM phone is stolen the IMEI is added to
a database of stolen phones. The phone is either blocked or tracked.

Not all networks record the IMEI of stolen phones. Some only store the
IMEI of phones stolen on their network. Sometimes networks in the one
country share the list. It is also possible to share among multiple
countries.

As an example, the networks here in Australia only recently kept a list
of stolen phones on their network. That was the first step. Now the
networks share the details, so a phone can't be used on another network.

Managing the list is not as simple as having the list exist. It is also
quite expensive. From the networks point of view, they don't really care
if a phone is stolen. A phone that is blocked is one that can't be used
to provide them with revenue.

Of course, if you wanted to use a stolen phone on a network which blocks
stolen phones you need to change the IMEI. Are there any other reasons
to change the IMEI? I can't think of any. So if someone wants to change
the IMEI of a phone, it's probably a stolen phone.

Signature

Matthew Smith
(to reply via email remove xxx)

ParaG - 22 Sep 2003 06:15 GMT
Thanks so much for your reply. Very imformative.

---ParaG

> > I was wondering if you guys could help me on a very confusing question. What
> > exactly is an IMEI number? I know that it identifies a particular cell phone
[quoted text clipped - 46 lines]
> to change the IMEI? I can't think of any. So if someone wants to change
> the IMEI of a phone, it's probably a stolen phone.
 
Sign In
Join
My Latest Posts
My Monitored Threads
My Blog
My Photo Gallery
My Profile
My Homepage

Start New Thread
Enable EMail Alerts
Rate this Thread



©2009 Advenet LLC   Privacy Policy - Terms of Use
This website includes both content owned or controlled by Advenet as well as content owned or controlled by third parties.