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mike k - 17 Oct 2003 14:23 GMT
All,

I'd like to write a utility to send SMS messages to cell phones from my PC.
I work for a small wireless carrier and we send messages to many of our
customers reminding them to pay their bills.  Our tech guy quit recently and
I'm a fairly technically adept guy so I thought I might try writing
something myself.

In the past we've done this using outlook to send a message to the smsc (or
at least that's what I'm told).  The address format is:

9999999999@msg.ourcarrier.com.

I've tried sending messages from outlook myself in both html AND plain text
formats.  The message gets delivered to the phone with the appropriate
sender information and subject if I remember correctly but the message
itself always says "Format Not Supported."  One thought I had was that maybe
Outlook is still formating the message as something other than truly plain
text even when I choose plain text.

I know that there are commercial products out there that can do this but I
was hoping for something simpler and cheaper that I could engineer myself.
I'd also really like to be able to create this in VB6 since we don't have
the .NET framework installed on our pcs and I believe that management would
see this as a major disadvantage.

Thanks,

Mike
Oxygen Software - 17 Oct 2003 14:48 GMT
Hello, mike!
You wrote  on Fri, 17 Oct 2003 09:23:22 -0400:

mk> I'd like to write a utility to send SMS messages to cell phones from
mk> my PC.
mk> I work for a small wireless carrier and we send messages to many of
mk> our customers reminding them to pay their bills.  Our tech guy quit
mk> recently and
mk> I'm a fairly technically adept guy so I thought I might try writing
mk> something myself.

mk> In the past we've done this using outlook to send a message to the
mk> smsc (or at least that's what I'm told).  The address format is:

mk> 9999999999@msg.ourcarrier.com.

mk> I've tried sending messages from outlook myself in both html AND
mk> plain text formats.  The message gets delivered to the phone with
mk> the appropriate sender information and subject if I remember
mk> correctly but the message itself always says "Format Not Supported."
mk> One thought I had was that maybe
mk> Outlook is still formating the message as something other than truly
mk> plain text even when I choose plain text.

mk> I know that there are commercial products out there that can do this
mk> but I was hoping for something simpler and cheaper that I could
mk> engineer myself.
mk> I'd also really like to be able to create this in VB6 since we don't
mk> have the .NET framework installed on our pcs and I believe that
mk> management would see this as a major disadvantage.

Take a look at http://www.smsactivex.com.

If you will have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact
us.

Best regards, Oleg Fyodorov.
Oxygen Software - tools for your Nokia.
Oxygen Phone Manager II - all you want from your Nokia.
support@oxygensoftware.com
http://www.oxygensoftware.com
http://www.oxygensoftware.co.uk
Chip Orange - 28 Apr 2004 18:44 GMT
I'm just beginning to look at SMS as a possible enhancement to a mobile
application I'm developing for laptops.

Is there any reason why you only support one particular brand of phone?  Any
chance other brands will be added soon so that I, as the developer, don't
have to worry about which brand of phone the user has?

thanks.

Chip

> Hello, mike!
> You wrote  on Fri, 17 Oct 2003 09:23:22 -0400:
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> http://www.oxygensoftware.com
> http://www.oxygensoftware.co.uk
Brian News - 28 Apr 2004 19:39 GMT
You may want to try service available at www.ipipi.com. I was able to
connect my corporate application to global SMS network in less than an hour.
They got a very easy to use API and pricing is OK.

Hope this helps,

b

> I'm just beginning to look at SMS as a possible enhancement to a mobile
> application I'm developing for laptops.
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> > http://www.oxygensoftware.com
> > http://www.oxygensoftware.co.uk
Richie - 15 May 2004 21:34 GMT
Most mobile carriers allow you to sent an email to SMS.  So why not input
the e-mail address of the mobile phone your want to sms to?   Or use a
gateway such as teleflip.com

> I'm just beginning to look at SMS as a possible enhancement to a mobile
> application I'm developing for laptops.
[quoted text clipped - 49 lines]
> > http://www.oxygensoftware.com
> > http://www.oxygensoftware.co.uk
John Charles - 25 May 2004 18:09 GMT
With regards to the original question. Take a look at NotePage's software.
Should do everything you want, with PageGate their may even be away to hook in
to your billing application - http://www.notepage.net/software.htm

>I'm just beginning to look at SMS as a possible enhancement to a mobile
>application I'm developing for laptops.

>Is there any reason why you only support one particular brand of phone?  Any
>chance other brands will be added soon so that I, as the developer, don't
>have to worry about which brand of phone the user has?

Shouldn't be an issue if you are sending the messages using standard protocols.

John Charles
P. Synthesis - 17 Oct 2003 19:35 GMT
>I'd like to write a utility to send SMS messages to cell phones from my PC.
>I work for a small wireless carrier and we send messages to many of our
>customers reminding them to pay their bills.  Our tech guy quit recently and
>I'm a fairly technically adept guy so I thought I might try writing
>something myself.

Microsoft has a free SMS Sender for XP and Windows Server 2003

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=06a4f997-7f69-4891-8929
-37b9041924a2&DisplayLang=en


> One thought I had was that maybe
>Outlook is still formating the message as something other than truly plain
>text even when I choose plain text.

Yup, MS Lookout can be b*tch to configure. Keep working on it. Yes, it
can send plain text.
Peter Pan - 17 Oct 2003 23:38 GMT
> All,
>
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>
> Mike

GOOD I'M AWFUL GLAD IT DOESN'T WORK AND YOU ARE AS BAD AS THE
SPAMMERS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Many of us have to pay to receive an SMS message, and you want to send
junkmail to people so they not only have to pay for your junk, but the bill
too!

I  notice you don't post your SMS ID here so we can all send junkmail (errr
junkmessages) to you and cost you a LOT of money.
mike k - 18 Oct 2003 02:44 GMT
First off you don't know me a.shole!  Secondly if you don't have something
constructive to say then don't say anything.   By the way, you don't pay to
receive sms messages at least not from my carrier anyway.  You only pay to
receive them.  I hate spam myself and if i didn't have to remind a good
portion of our customers that they needed to pay their bills on time I
wouldn't be screwing with this in the first place.  So thank you for being a
dickhead and making assumptions.  Your comments were most appreciated.

Mike

> > All,
> >
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> I  notice you don't post your SMS ID here so we can all send junkmail (errr
> junkmessages) to you and cost you a LOT of money.
Peter Pan - 18 Oct 2003 05:26 GMT
Well, I had something constructive to say, so there goes your statement. And
by the way, Verizom (at least) charges 2 cents for every SMS message
received. Since a majority of people here have Verizon (at least I do) I
think it's really assholeish to ask people for help to create something that
may cost other people money. Heres a concept, send them a bill in the US
mail and PAY FOR THE POSTAGE YOURSELF!

> First off you don't know me a.shole!  Secondly if you don't have something
> constructive to say then don't say anything.   By the way, you don't pay to
[quoted text clipped - 57 lines]
> (errr
> > junkmessages) to you and cost you a LOT of money.
The Amazed - 18 Oct 2003 17:28 GMT
What' s the problem Peter? Wendy not giving it up this week? Man, you need
to calm the "f" down. That guy said nothing to deserve your soapbox act. U
need to answer one of those "Drugs To Your Door By Mail" SPAM ads and get
yourself some PROZAC. Then prance your a.s back down to Never Never Land
where you certainly belong.

> Well, I had something constructive to say, so there goes your statement. And
> by the way, Verizom (at least) charges 2 cents for every SMS message
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> > (errr
> > > junkmessages) to you and cost you a LOT of money.
SimStore - 25 Oct 2003 03:21 GMT
SimStore customers can send SMS from the website
www.simstore.com

Of course if they're wacked out it might get pricey
:-)

Also note the recipient charging is retsricted to America and parts of
Asia. In Europe and Australasia recipients pay nothing

> What' s the problem Peter? Wendy not giving it up this week? Man, you need
> to calm the "f" down. That guy said nothing to deserve your soapbox act. U
[quoted text clipped - 137 lines]
>>>
>>>>junkmessages) to you and cost you a LOT of money.

Signature

  www.simstore.com

   dont cook your phone book

Michael - 05 Nov 2003 11:14 GMT
> Well, I had something constructive to say, so there goes your statement. And
> by the way, Verizom (at least) charges 2 cents for every SMS message
> received. Since a majority of people here have Verizon (at least I do) I
> think it's really assholeish to ask people for help to create something that
> may cost other people money. Heres a concept, send them a bill in the US
> mail and PAY FOR THE POSTAGE YOURSELF!

You are an idiot. The SMS remiders are clearly designed for customers that
dont respond to bills in the mail.

The alternatives for the customer is
- dont get SMS reminders and get disconnected for non-payment
- recieve an SMS reminder, remember that you havent paid, pay your bill, and
save $30/$50, or whatever your reconnection fee is

Stupid yanks

> > First off you don't know me a.shole!  Secondly if you don't have something
> > constructive to say then don't say anything.   By the way, you don't pay
[quoted text clipped - 64 lines]
> > (errr
> > > junkmessages) to you and cost you a LOT of money.
M Mullen - 11 Nov 2003 19:54 GMT
|> Well, I had something constructive to say, so there goes your statement. And
|> by the way, Verizom (at least) charges 2 cents for every SMS message
|> received. Since a majority of people here have Verizon (at least I do) I
|> think it's really assholeish to ask people for help to create something that
|> may cost other people money. Heres a concept, send them a bill in the US
|> mail and PAY FOR THE POSTAGE YOURSELF!

Let me get this straight your sending billing messages to your customers thru
their phones rather than sending snail mail. I don't normally flame fact is
never yet, but dude you are a Dick Head.

What really sad is your actually justifying it.

Peter Pan what a fairy.
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HEALTH: The slowest possible rate of dying.
Peter Pan - 12 Nov 2003 02:21 GMT
> |> Well, I had something constructive to say, so there goes your statement. And
> |> by the way, Verizom (at least) charges 2 cents for every SMS message
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>              ^^" "^^
> HEALTH: The slowest possible rate of dying.

Looks like you are the a.shole , I was responding to someone that wanted to
send sms messages to people instead of outlook email to pay their bill, and
telling him some people get charged for RECEIVING sms messages!

watch what you trim dickhead, you cut off the post I was replying to....

By the way, you don't pay to send sms messages at least not from my carrier
anyway.  You only pay to
receive them.

After he said
> > "mike k" <mjkelley@charter.net> wrote in message
> > news:vovra4cm6eje50@corp.supernews.com...
> > > All,
> > >
> > > I'd like to write a utility to send SMS messages to cell phones from
my PC.
> > > I work for a small wireless carrier and we send messages to many of
our
> > > customers reminding them to pay their bills.  Our tech guy quit
recently and
> > > I'm a fairly technically adept guy so I thought I might try writing
> > > something myself.
> > >
> > > In the past we've done this using outlook. I've tried sending messages
from outlook myself in both html AND plain text
> > > formats.  The message gets delivered to the phone with the appropriate
sender information and subject if I remember correctly but the message
> > > itself always says "Format Not Supported."
Michael - 05 Nov 2003 11:13 GMT
> > All,
> >
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> junkmail to people so they not only have to pay for your junk, but the bill
> too!

Thats because you live in a stupid country that has called-party-pays

Your country needs to get into the real world, thanks
Group Special Mobile - 05 Nov 2003 13:30 GMT
>> > All,
>> >
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>
>Your country needs to get into the real world, thanks

And a butthole such as yourself doesn't get free nights and weekend
calling or unlimited data offerrings either do you?  Before you call
someone stupid look at your own house.  The European and North
American systems are different and both work.    *Please* stay where
you are.  We don't need jerks like you roaming around here.

Why you feel being an a.shole serves your purpose is lost on the
average reader.  Do you practise being a jerk?
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Michael - 06 Nov 2003 12:01 GMT
> >> Many of us have to pay to receive an SMS message, and you want to send
> >> junkmail to people so they not only have to pay for your junk, but the
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> And a butthole such as yourself doesn't get free nights and weekend
> calling or unlimited data offerrings either do you?  Before you call

Yes, we do, thanks for asking

> someone stupid look at your own house.  The European and North
> American systems are different and both work.    *Please* stay where
> you are.  We don't need jerks like you roaming around here.

Sorry, but GSM doesnt work in North America, at all. I suggest you look at
www.gsmworld.com to check subscriber numbers and you will see that America
is far behind

> Why you feel being an a.shole serves your purpose is lost on the
> average reader.  Do you practise being a jerk?

Get into the real world.
Mark O'Brien - 15 Nov 2003 14:21 GMT
At least in the US, you can send SMS messages from AOL Instant Messenger
(and Apple's iChat which uses the AIM network). In the "Send and Instant
Message" menu, just type in the phone number (i.e. +1 212 123 4567) and type
your message and send.

In the US, ATTWS and Verizon customers can respond to these, T-Mobile can
receive, but cannot respond. I don't know about other carriers.

Mark

On 10/17/03 5:38 PM, in article bmpr1h$pa90i$1@ID-190045.news.uni-berlin.de,

>> All,
>>
[quoted text clipped - 41 lines]
> I  notice you don't post your SMS ID here so we can all send junkmail (errr
> junkmessages) to you and cost you a LOT of money.
Kirk Lundgreen - 28 Feb 2004 05:32 GMT
I respond with my t-mobile phone all the time!!
> At least in the US, you can send SMS messages from AOL Instant Messenger
> (and Apple's iChat which uses the AIM network). In the "Send and Instant
[quoted text clipped - 53 lines]
> > I  notice you don't post your SMS ID here so we can all send junkmail (errr
> > junkmessages) to you and cost you a LOT of money.
 
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