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GPRS Dynamic IP vs Static IP

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dafond - 14 Oct 2003 10:21 GMT
I have a customer of mine who is using an application over CDPD using fix IP
and don't want to change to GPRS as they would have to implement Dynamic IP
addressing within their application.

I am trying to find good arguments to GPRS dynamic IP addressing. Is anyone
can help me?

Dan
Wumpus - 14 Oct 2003 17:33 GMT
> I have a customer of mine who is using an application over CDPD using fix IP
> and don't want to change to GPRS as they would have to implement Dynamic IP
> addressing within their application.
>
> I am trying to find good arguments to GPRS dynamic IP addressing. Is anyone
> can help me?

Aren't the usual static-versus-dynamic-IP arguments valid?

Wumpus
dafond - 14 Oct 2003 19:38 GMT
Nop...  Need more arguments

> > I have a customer of mine who is using an application over CDPD using fix IP
> > and don't want to change to GPRS as they would have to implement Dynamic IP
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> Wumpus
Kyler Laird - 15 Oct 2003 04:12 GMT
>I have a customer of mine who is using an application over CDPD using fix IP
>and don't want to change to GPRS as they would have to implement Dynamic IP
>addressing within their application.

...or use a redirector.

--kyler
dafond - 15 Oct 2003 22:50 GMT
Thank you Kyler but... can you explain what is a redirector?
- conceptual level
- How it is installed
- company that can supply this product

Dan

> >I have a customer of mine who is using an application over CDPD using fix IP
> >and don't want to change to GPRS as they would have to implement Dynamic IP
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> --kyler
Kyler Laird - 16 Oct 2003 03:12 GMT
>> >I have a customer of mine who is using an application over CDPD using fix
>IP
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>> ...or use a redirector.

>Thank you Kyler but... can you explain what is a redirector?

In this context, I was referring to something that redirects packets from
one address to another (in two directions).  You could call it a router,
tunnel, forwarder, proxy, ...

>- conceptual level

It's a static IP address that just acts like a front end for the GPRS
device.  (If you only need a single TCP/UDP port per device, for example,
it could get much simpler.)

>- How it is installed

It depends on how much you need to do with it, but iptables, xinetd, or
socat can be pressed in to service to do this.  (Heck, you *might* even
be able to get away with just manipulating name resolution.)  The tricky
part would be notifying the tool of the GPRS device's address.  That
depends on the capabilities of the device (and the security you require).
At one extreme, you could have each device just send ICMP (ping) packets
with their IDs.  The tool would listen for the packets and update the
routing table.  It'd be easy to subvert, but it'd be enough for a demo.

It basically needs to do what you would otherwise have your application do
(as far as tracking the device).  I was just suggesting that you could
modularize the functionality and keep it away from the application.  That
might have some advantages (in terms of maintenance/testing/politics/...).

>- company that can supply this product

I dunno.  There are lots of people who could whip up something usable in an
evening.  I'm sure there are many of us who would be willing to point to
helpful resources, given a few more details of the requirements.

BTW, I use GPRS, but I run SSH over it to make it feel more like a static
address.

--kyler
 
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