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GSM Roaming in Los Angeles

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john orlando - 09 Jan 2004 18:37 GMT
Hello,
I will be travelling to Los Angeles soon.  I was wondering what GSM
service is available there?  I see T-Mobile is available, but I am
wondering if either Cingular or AT&T is available there as well?  Any
GSM providers here that I have missed?  In addition, does anyone know
what the roaming agreements in LA are?  I'm looking to find out which
carriers can or can't roam on to the other carriers (don't realy care
if it costs $$).  Finally, any indication of how "mature" the networks
are out there (i.e., is coverage reasonable) would be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks!

John O.
George - 10 Jan 2004 07:29 GMT
Mature???

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john orlando - 10 Jan 2004 20:19 GMT
Yes, mature...in the sense that they are well-established, have worked
out most of their kinks, and provide a reasonable level of service to
paying subscribers (don't drop calls constantly, as it seems some
do...)

John
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Stuart Friedman - 11 Jan 2004 01:11 GMT
A couple of points:

   -The Cingular Network in LA is the former PacBell network.  It has been
GSM since Congress handed out PCS licenses;
   -T-Mobile shares the Cingular network in LA.  In California, T-Mobile
operates like a virtual network on top of the Cingular network;
   -ATT was a relatively recent rollover.

In Los Angeles, you should be fine.  When you get out in the desert or
something, there can be some problems.  The PacBell network is more mature
than the ATT network, but it is caring a high customer load because of the
T-Mobile virtual network.  T-Mobile brought some extra spectrum into the
picture when they came into town, but I'm not sure if it is enough.

I've used GSM thoughout California and am generally satisfied.  In rural
areas, I've found areas without coverage.  I don't know what your comparing
it to, but I think that if you have a phone that roams on all three
networks, you will not be disappointed.

Stu

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matt weber - 11 Jan 2004 02:36 GMT
>Mature???
If you are roaming GSM in LA, most of the service is actually
Cingular, although they share some facilities with T-Mobile. AT&T no
doubt has substantial GSM infrastructer in the LA area. It is too big
a market not too...
- - 14 Jan 2004 18:19 GMT
Will I have any use for GSM 850 in LA/Frisco area, i.e. would I benefit from
an upgrade?

> >Mature???
> If you are roaming GSM in LA, most of the service is actually
> Cingular, although they share some facilities with T-Mobile. AT&T no
> doubt has substantial GSM infrastructer in the LA area. It is too big
> a market not too...
Joseph - 15 Jan 2004 01:17 GMT
>Will I have any use for GSM 850 in LA/Frisco area, i.e. would I benefit from
>an upgrade?

*Please* don't say Frisco to a native of San Francisco.  They'll send
you packing back to Sverige!  AT&T Wireless GSM uses 850 in San
Francisco and Los Angeles.  You will do fine with GSM 1900 only if you
have a tri-band mobile with cingular/T-Mobile or AT&T Wireless.

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John S. - 15 Jan 2004 11:47 GMT
>Will I have any use for GSM 850 in LA/Frisco area,

Los Angeles, CA - probably
Firsco, TX - Definatly

If you are using "Frisco" to describe San Francisco then you shouldn't.

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Joel - 15 Jan 2004 18:43 GMT
AT&T, Cingular, T-Mobile are all available, though the latter two share the
same network.  All have good coverage and all have their weakenesses. It's
very much specific to which part of town you want to use your phone or which
adjacent rural areas.  Cingular has better coverage in Malibu, for example.

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