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Cellular Phone Forum / General / GSM / February 2004Laptops and mobiles ???
Is it possible to connect to the internet through a laptop linked to a mobile phone??? If so any one no how and what eqiupment is needed???? All help welcome > Is it possible to connect to the internet through a laptop linked to a > mobile phone??? > If so any one no how and what eqiupment is needed???? > All help welcome The simplest way is to use IrDA. Most laptops have this, and a good few mobile phone do to.  SignatureMichael Turner Email (ROT13) zvxr.gheare1963@ivetva.arg > > Is it possible to connect to the internet through a laptop linked to a > > mobile phone??? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > The simplest way is to use IrDA. Most laptops have this, and a good few > mobile phone do to. IrDA ??? any one know anything this ??? I may be thick but im willing to learn :-) IrDA is wireless and based on the infrared spectrum and therefore are no wires involved. I personally do not care for it because it is a pain in the a.s in terms of reliability (IrDA ports need to be aimed correctly, propensity to drop connections, etc). Some people swear by it though. I avoid it like the plague. Then there is Bluetooth, which is a newer technology. It exchanges information between the laptop and the phone via a short range digtial radio, and therefore is more reliable - and faster - then IrDA. To use Bluetooth, your devices must be specifically Bluetooth enabled, either as part of its feature set or from an add-on. Lastly, and my favorite choice, is through a USB. Yes a cable is involved, but first of all, its most secure way of passing information between devices and, also, you can charge your phone at the same time. For example, the V300 can be connected to the laptop with a USB charging\data cable, so while you are using the phone with your laptop, it will remain freshly charged. So in terms of preference, IMO, I like USB, then Bluetooth, and IrDA a very distant 3rd. > > > Is it possible to connect to the internet through a laptop linked to a > > > mobile phone??? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > I may be thick but im willing to learn :-) > IrDA is wireless and based on the infrared spectrum and therefore are no > wires involved. I personally do not care for it because it is a pain in the [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > So in terms of preference, IMO, I like USB, then Bluetooth, and IrDA a very > distant 3rd. <sniped> so it looks at the moment that bluetooth or cable is the way to go,,,, Another question...... do the mobile phone have to have things like being WAP enabled or something else?? Also can the cables be bought from most mobile phone outlets??? > IrDA is wireless and based on the infrared spectrum and therefore are no > wires involved. I personally do not care for it because it is a pain in the > a.s in terms of reliability (IrDA ports need to be aimed correctly, > propensity to drop connections, etc). Some people swear by it though. I > avoid it like the plague. It's light. Just like a TV remote. Usually less than 1m in range, and very directional. You get very good at holding your phone on your lap in just the right position... > Then there is Bluetooth, which is a newer technology. It exchanges > information between the laptop and the phone via a short range digtial > radio, and therefore is more reliable - and faster - then IrDA. To use > Bluetooth, your devices must be specifically Bluetooth enabled, either as > part of its feature set or from an add-on. Actually, Bluetooth is slower than IrDA. IrDA can run at 4Mbps, bluetooth tops out at 900kbps or so. However, GPRS is generally 56kbps max, so the speed of both of those is more than adequate. > Lastly, and my favorite choice, is through a USB. Yes a cable is involved, > but first of all, its most secure way of passing information between devices > and, also, you can charge your phone at the same time. For example, the > V300 can be connected to the laptop with a USB charging\data cable, so while > you are using the phone with your laptop, it will remain freshly charged. Cables that charge the phone almost universally violate the USB spec. Unless you find one made by the manufacturer of the phone, it basically sucks power without asking. USB devices are always supposed to request explicitly the amount of power they need. You may get away with it, but it may cause problems. Use at your own risk. > > IrDA is wireless and based on the infrared spectrum and therefore are no > > wires involved. I personally do not care for it because it is a pain in the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > very directional. You get very good at holding your phone on your lap > in just the right position... Its a poor solution unless you are standing absolutely still because of that directional characteristic of these IrDA ports. > > Then there is Bluetooth, which is a newer technology. It exchanges > > information between the laptop and the phone via a short range digtial [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > bluetooth tops out at 900kbps or so. However, GPRS is generally 56kbps > max, so the speed of both of those is more than adequate. 4 mbps is never reached in IrDA. Plus I forgot to mention that Bluetooth has been known to cause collisions between .11b devices. > > Lastly, and my favorite choice, is through a USB. Yes a cable is involved, > > but first of all, its most secure way of passing information between devices [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > to request explicitly the amount of power they need. You may get away > with it, but it may cause problems. Use at your own risk. The phone (most phones as a matter of fact) has a built in charging circuit that regulates the juice it needs. The draw, even at its highest, is well within the rated specs of USB 1.1 and 2.0 standard. I would agree with you that a poor quality cable is asking for trouble. > > "George Ojeda" <me@me.com> wrote in message > news:<mp-dnWed2I1R0ajdRVn-gQ@giganews.com>... > > Actually, Bluetooth is slower than IrDA. IrDA can run at 4Mbps, > > bluetooth tops out at 900kbps or so. However, GPRS is generally 56kbps > > max, so the speed of both of those is more than adequate. > 4 mbps is never reached in IrDA. Are you suggesting that a 4Mbps signalling rate doesn't mean you can actually transfer that much data in the real world? That's the case for virtually all communications protocols. IrDA is theoretically faster than Bluetooth, and is not slow for a communications protocol. I've printed over IrDA and found the performance acceptable as well. I really think the only problem with it is the fact that you need to hold your devices perfectly still... > Plus I forgot to mention that Bluetooth > has been known to cause collisions between .11b devices. Yup. The other way around is much less common, both in the theory I've read and in my tests. I did some ping flood tests and found not a single lost Bluetooth packet, but a fair number of lost 802.11b packets. That being said, I don't notice a problem using my bluetooth headset and 802.11b at the same time. Bluetooth is generally much shorter range so it doesn't become a problem most of the time. > The phone (most phones as a matter of fact) has a built in charging circuit > that regulates the juice it needs. The draw, even at its highest, is well > within the rated specs of USB 1.1 and 2.0 standard. I would agree with you > that a poor quality cable is asking for trouble. When you plug in a USB device, it asks the computer for power. A phone that isn't expecting to be charged from the computer - and I've never found one that was expecting that - would request low power, 100mA I believe. The USB spec says you can't draw more than 500mA under any circumstances. My Ericsson charger can provide 650mA. USB ports are supposed to be protected against overcurrent, but that doesn't mean that all of them are. USB charging is a great idea, but it's not being implemented in a spec-compliant manner. > > > "George Ojeda" <me@me.com> wrote in message > > news:<mp-dnWed2I1R0ajdRVn-gQ@giganews.com>... [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > really think the only problem with it is the fact that you need to > hold your devices perfectly still... Its very slow. The simple test here would be to grab your laptop and IrDA a simple document to an HP laserjet printer. It is painfully slow. > > Plus I forgot to mention that Bluetooth > > has been known to cause collisions between .11b devices. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > that all of them are. USB charging is a great idea, but it's not being > implemented in a spec-compliant manner. The charger might say 650 mA, but it never approaches that. The mAh rating that you see on a phone's battery is the charge that a phone can hold over time. In the V300s case, the battery is listed at 650 mAh, or 650 milliamp output for one hour, 65 milliamp output for 10 hours, 6.5 milliamps output for 100, etc. It all depends on the load. Theoretically you can rundown a v300 in one hour - how you would do it is beyond me, thereby exceeding the USB spec. If a completely dead phone was able to be charged within one hour, then you would probably be exceeding the USB spec. The reality is though that either behavior is impossible by design. No phone that I know of permits this sort of operation. Im sure you have a car charger for your phone. Depending on the way the charger is made, their power light grows dimmer and dimmer as the phone is charged. That is the phone's charging circuit gradually stepping down the draw until it is at a trickle\maintenance charge. As for USB ports not being protected against overcurrent, if you see the USB trident placed in the place the spec says it should, then you can be pretty sure that it is a spec port. I am quite sure the USB port on my Dell laptop is spec ;) SEE MY POST ABOVE >Is it possible to connect to the internet through a laptop linked to a >mobile phone??? >If so any one no how and what eqiupment is needed???? >All help welcome > Is it possible to connect to the internet through a laptop > linked to a mobile phone??? > If so any one no how and what eqiupment is needed???? > All help welcome You'll need a phone with an internal "modem". Most mid to high end phones have this facility these days, as do a few cheaper ones. The phone will need to understand the cellular "AT" command set extensions, used to remote-control the phone from the laptop. Others have mentioned IrDA, Bluetooth (both wireless) and a USB cable for connecting phone to laptop. Personally, I use an ordinary serial cable (RS232), as that's the connection my laptop already has. You don't use WAP for this. You will use either circuit-switched data (CSD) or GPRS, and you will probably have the choice. CSD gets charged by connect time (usually at 9,600 bps only). GPRS gets charged on the basis of the amount of traffic (number of packets passed, and a higher speed connection). John GPRS is UNLIMITED under the $19.99 T-Mo plan. >> Is it possible to connect to the internet through a laptop >> linked to a mobile phone??? [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > >John > GPRS is UNLIMITED under the $19.99 T-Mo plan. Thanks for that i will phone the phone shop today and ask about it GPRS in my area ( T-Mobile in Wash DC ) is 29.95 ( on website ) for all you can eat, without a voice plan and 19.99 with a voice plan. I was on the 5Mb with a Novatel Merlin card and then pay per Mb deal. Just got off of the phone with Cust serv and I jumped on the 29.99 for unlimited access and still have internet3 so, that's a kewl deal!! No more watching data 'buckets' anymore. The unlimited plan used to be ~80 bucks or so. Though I ain't complaining, I wonder what prompted them to drastically lower the price? Maybe they are trying to get more people over to T-Mobile? They must have just changed the plans recently. See how kewl this NG is? ;-) Scotty > GPRS is UNLIMITED under the $19.99 T-Mo plan. > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > > >John > GPRS in my area ( T-Mobile in Wash DC ) is 29.95 ( on website ) for all you > can eat, without a voice plan and 19.99 with a voice plan. [...] > They must have just changed the plans recently. See how kewl this NG is? > ;-) Actually, June of 2003 was when the $20 or $30/mo unlimited data plans premiered on T-Mobile (US). Bob Really? Hm. I.....must......check....the....website....more.....often. I always check the website for better voiceplans and forget about the data plans. Oh well. good to know, thanks. ;-) Scotty > > GPRS in my area ( T-Mobile in Wash DC ) is 29.95 ( on website ) for all you > > can eat, without a voice plan and 19.99 with a voice plan. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Bob If you are a Verizon subscriber you can use Mobile Office. You use your air-time as with your phone. If you have nights and weekends "free" for five bucks a month you can surf all night and weekends and certain holidays. All you need is the kit including software and cable for the phone and you're ready to go. Works wherever there is VZW digital. Although "slow" 14.4 it comes with a compression program that probably gets about 28 kbs/sec. Works fine for me. The althernative is high-speed access which costs extra, about fifty bucks a month and a kbyte charge. Luck > Is it possible to connect to the internet through a laptop > linked to a mobile phone??? > If so any one no how and what eqiupment is needed???? > All help welcome First: Check whether your phone has a modem. Second: Check whether your contract includes data transfer. Third: Check the rates. They can be from quite cheap (EUR 16.00 monthly flat rate in Finland) to ridiculously expensive (EUR 10.00 and more per MB data transfer in Germany). We are talking GPRS here, btw. M. Il giorno Thu, 19 Feb 2004 22:46:25 -0000, "all at home" <all@home.nospame> con una bandiera della rinata Fiorentina in mano e lo striscione "Meglio liberi all'inferno che schiavi in paradiso" nell'altra cosi' parlo': >Is it possible to connect to the internet through a laptop linked to a >mobile phone??? This is me :-) SignatureAndrea de Florence ©, PrepaidGSM Staff - ISCF online: www.iscf.info - Know 3: www.mondo3.com - Prepaid Sim Card of the "Entire World": www.prepaidgsm.net |
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