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Cellular Phone Forum / Manufacturers / Motorola / February 2004Motorola Professional Hands Free Car Kit Information Site, http://nordicgroup.us/mphfck/
While looking into what I had to do to use my V60s with the professional hands free car kit I am presently using for the 270C, I created a little web site that details all the different hands free car kits, and the different hang-up cups. There are a lot of errors and omissions on the Motorola web site regarding the Professional Hands Free Car Kits. Hopefully this site will clear things up, but I may have errors too, so if you see anything wrong then let me know. One question is what's the difference between the old S9610 base kit, and the new S9950 base kit? Both appear to have the same components. Motorola often assigns multiple model numbers to the same item, i.e. there are two instances where there are two hang-up cup models for a single phone model, with no indication of the difference. See: http://nordicgroup.us/mphfck/ According to Moto parts ID, the S9610 part no is superseded by S9950. They are one and the same, other than the new kits most likely come with an SYN9760 junction box instead of a SYN9271. ***IMPORTANT*** Something to be aware of is that this newest SYN9760 junction box doesn't support radio mute when used with certain handsets. I've seen this issue when used with T720/T730 with 1.2.22.44.5P. (VZW) I tested the kit with an AT&T T720 and the radio mute worked fine, so it is an issue with certain firmware versions in certain phones. But, the older SYN9271 boxes DO radio mute just fine. Because of the above issue, I have a BRAND NEW S9708 kit that I'd like to sell. Radio mute is necessary for me, so I installed a S9610 kit with the old box instead. This is the latest kit, direct from Motorola for the T720/T730. richard at nessnet dot com if interested > While looking into what I had to do to use my V60s with the professional > hands free car kit I am presently using for the 270C, I created a little web [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > See: http://nordicgroup.us/mphfck/ Just received the S9950A kit from VZW for my V60s. The kit contains: SYN9760A Junction box SMN4107B Microphone SKN4922B Wiring Harness SSN4020A Speaker SJJN4078E Installation/User's Guide Also, it appears that the Hang-Up Cup has been renumbered from SYN0705 to 66491 (unless, of course, that's a VZW internal number) -- there is a new sticker over the old SYN0705 sticker on the box. I can't find any number on the Hang-Up Cup itself, but included in the box are: SYN0407A Swivel Mounting Bracket SKN6365A Cable > According to Moto parts ID, the S9610 part no is superseded by S9950. > They are one and the same, other than the new kits most likely come with [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > > > See: http://nordicgroup.us/mphfck/ Thanks for that. Looks like they moved the swivel bracket from the base kit to the hang-up cup, a good idea. Verizon uses their own numbers. They won't tell you the Motorola numbers. > Just received the S9950A kit from VZW for my V60s. The kit contains: > [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > > > > > > See: http://nordicgroup.us/mphfck/ Did the hang-up cup box include the entire kit with the little square plastic plate that the swivel mounts to? > Just received the S9950A kit from VZW for my V60s. The kit contains: > [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > > > > > > See: http://nordicgroup.us/mphfck/ Yes, it did. > Did the hang-up cup box include the entire kit with the little square > plastic plate that the swivel mounts to? [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] > > > > > > > > See: http://nordicgroup.us/mphfck/ Does the radio mute work with a V60? (Using the new SYN9760 box) Like I said before, it DOESN'T with a T720/T730. I had to go back to a SYN9271 box. > Just received the S9950A kit from VZW for my V60s. The kit contains: > [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > > > > > > See: http://nordicgroup.us/mphfck/ I have not had a chance to connect it -- I will let you know once I do. > Does the radio mute work with a V60? > (Using the new SYN9760 box) [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > > > > > > > > See: http://nordicgroup.us/mphfck/ Steve-- I took a quick glance at your website -- a lot of good info. I disgree with your section on antennas: Antennas These kits require an external antenna for best performance, though they will work with the phone's own antenna. The most popular antennas are the through the glass antennas where you glue a plate on each side of the glass. Make sure you get one with the proper connector. When you insert the phone into the cradle, it essentially disables the phone's own internal antenna -- without an external antenna, you are basically using a short piece of coax as your antenna, which is virtually useless. I have found the Terk CFR-904 to perform very well with the V60s (and previously with the T720): http://www.terk.com/pdfs/CFR904.pdf It looks similar to a satellite radio antenna (i.e., no whip). No wind noise and more "stealth" in appearance... > While looking into what I had to do to use my V60s with the professional > hands free car kit I am presently using for the 270C, I created a little web [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > See: http://nordicgroup.us/mphfck/ > Steve-- > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > virtually useless. I have found the Terk CFR-904 to perform very well > with the V60s (and previously with the T720): Okay, I'll fix that. However I did not notice any difference in signal strength with the phone out of the cradle and the phone in the cradle before I put in the antenna. That is probably true in a strong signal area. I have tried it in an area where I have marginal coverage, and there is definitely a difference -- to the point where you actually lose a signal or call when you disconnect the external antenna while the phone is in the cradle. With my V60s, if I connect an antenna adapter (Wilson #352014) without antenna to my v60s, the signal strength drops from three to two bars. If I connect an extenal antenna (Wilson Dual-Band Mini Magnet with Sputnik Ground Plane, suction-cupped to inside of window), the signal strength climbs to four bars, fairly consistantly. Not an exact science, but you get the picture. Also, it appears that the change in signal strength does not register immediately according to the phone display. It's appears that the meter on the phone averages signal strength over a period of time. > Okay, I'll fix that. However I did not notice any difference in signal > strength with the phone out of the cradle and the phone in the cradle before > I put in the antenna. |
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