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The Dr. - 21 Jun 2007 15:22 GMT
Everything I am reading tell me I will find the information I need
at...   www.howardforums.com

And it is probably right in front of my face and I'm missing it.

Is there a step by step somewhere...?

Or am I looking for the directions in forum Q&A...?

I notice a lot of those differ.

Maybe another site...?

Any help in leading me to the right info will be appreciated.

Thanks,
Doc
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XS11E - 21 Jun 2007 15:29 GMT
> Everything I am reading tell me I will find the information I need
> at...   www.howardforums.com
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Any help in leading me to the right info will be appreciated.

Explain what you're trying to do, please.  Define "unlocking".

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The Dr. - 22 Jun 2007 03:40 GMT
>> Everything I am reading tell me I will find the information I need
>> at...   www.howardforums.com
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
>Explain what you're trying to do, please.  Define "unlocking".

Sorry, probably the wrong term to use. I want to be able to use MPT to
transfer tunes, pic's, whatever from the computer to the phone...

I have MPT 4.0 and the cable. After trying to use them I found verizon
had this pretty much blocked out.  I'm seeing people talking about
working around this. I would like to do it myself if I can find some
clear directions of what to do.

I am working around it a little my putting the mSD in a card reader
and loading it. Then put the card into the phone. That got old fast
and I'm really not doing much but moving some pictures.

I had no clue this phone was so neutered or I would have never got it.
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XS11E - 22 Jun 2007 04:10 GMT
>>Explain what you're trying to do, please.  Define "unlocking".
>
> Sorry, probably the wrong term to use. I want to be able to use
> MPT to transfer tunes, pic's, whatever from the computer to the
> phone...

It's the correct term but it has two meanings apparently, it means
unlocking a phone so it can be used on a carrier other than the one it
was designed for, the other meaning is what you're trying to do.

> I have MPT 4.0 and the cable. After trying to use them I found
> verizon had this pretty much blocked out.  I'm seeing people
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> I had no clue this phone was so neutered or I would have never got
> it. --  --

It's easy to un-neuter, I'll bet your dog would like for the vet to
tell him that!

You're right in thinking Howard Forums is the answer but when someone
tells you to go read the forum and you'll find your answer what's meant
by "reading the forums" is to read carefully and follow ALL the links
you encounter because a lot of the information you need is there.

If you read Howard Forums you might have encountered this link:

http://mark.cdmaforums.com/

It may be the help you need.

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Peter Pan - 22 Jun 2007 05:37 GMT
> Sorry, probably the wrong term to use. I want to be able to use MPT to
> transfer tunes, pic's, whatever from the computer to the phone...
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> I had no clue this phone was so neutered or I would have never got it.
> --  --

Just out of curiosity, why are you so determined to use MPT? I have an
E815/MPT and wanted to do the same sort of stuff, and found the cable I had
for that phone worked perfect to do all that stuff with BitPim
(compatibility chart says it should work on your phone, it is free by the
way, get it at http://www.bitpim.org/)... Did I mention it's free? and the
link for getting it is pasted here? You must already have a cable if you are
using MPT. so what do you have to lose?

One caveat (and unfortunately I ran into this), if you have a Micro SD card
(you said you did above), and have the phones camera/mp3 player/etc set to
use the memory card for storage, it will fail.. You have to set it back to
store stuff in the phone for you to access it and transfer things between
your 'puter and the phone...
XS11E - 22 Jun 2007 14:04 GMT

> Just out of curiosity, why are you so determined to use MPT?

Because he said he has it.

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Peter Pan - 22 Jun 2007 14:49 GMT
>> Just out of curiosity, why are you so determined to use MPT?
>
> Because he said he has it.

Okay, then that means he has the data cable already (or he couldn't use
it/MPT), so as I said, why not use bitpim (it's free, does what he wants,
and uses the same cable he already has for MPT)? I have MPT and a Moto E815,
and now use Bitpim with the cable I used to use for MPT and do exactly what
he wants, lets me transfer pix/mp3's, ringtones, videoes etc... Seems sort
of silly to seem edit the phone to do what you want, rather than just use
free different software... Don't get me wrong, I'm all for brand loyalty,
but I have no problem with looking at alternate solutions that also work
with that brand stuff
XS11E - 22 Jun 2007 16:06 GMT
> Seems sort of silly to seem edit the phone to do what you want,
> rather than just use free different software...

I'd agree with that except my E815 wouldn't work with Bitpim OR mpt
until I did the seem edit.

Also, I find MPT much easier to use but that's personal
preference, of course.

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Peter Pan - 22 Jun 2007 23:05 GMT
>> Seems sort of silly to seem edit the phone to do what you want,
>> rather than just use free different software...
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Also, I find MPT much easier to use but that's personal
> preference, of course.

Just out of curiosity, have you tried the later versions of bitpim? (as of
june 12th it is now version 1.0.0) My e815 didn't work about a year or so
ago, but some of the previous versions and now the latest version handles
it... There is a compatibility chart that shows the v3m, and all the
functions supported...

I have MPT and a cable, but this is really cool cuz I can take pics/movies
with the camera, and then transfer em to my computer just by plugging the
cable in (or the other way with ringtnes/mp3s etc)... it's cool
XS11E - 22 Jun 2007 23:12 GMT
>>> Seems sort of silly to seem edit the phone to do what you want,
>>> rather than just use free different software...
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Just out of curiosity, have you tried the later versions of
> bitpim? (as of june 12th it is now version 1.0.0)

Yes, this morning after reading your post.

> My e815 didn't work about a year or so ago, but some of the
> previous versions and now the latest version handles it... There
> is a compatibility chart that shows the v3m, and all the functions
> supported...

I can't test it with an unedited seem as I'm too lazy to put it back
like it was!

> I have MPT and a cable, but this is really cool cuz I can take
> pics/movies with the camera, and then transfer em to my computer
> just by plugging the cable in (or the other way with ringtnes/mp3s
> etc)... it's cool

Ditto, using MPT but I don't want any other ringtones or mp3s so all I
do is backup the phone book and move pictures to the HD.

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The Dr. - 23 Jun 2007 16:46 GMT
>>> Just out of curiosity, why are you so determined to use MPT?
>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>but I have no problem with looking at alternate solutions that also work
>with that brand stuff

I have the data cable. I have MPT 4.0.  And not I have BitPim 10.0

What I really would like to find is a step by step of what to do...

At one point I had MPT 4.0 on my computer. I would plug in my V3m. The
computer would see it as new hardware showing it as a V3c.

In MPT I did not have the V3m as a choice.  I had the V3c & I think
the V3cm.  Both close, but no cigar...  I tried them both. A little
would happen. But neither was right.

I have got nothing to happen with BitPim at all. Dose not even see the
phone. Again the choice of V3m is not there. So I'm not sure what to
do.

I did remove MPT from my computer.  Dose it have to be installed and
running for BitPim to work properly?

All I want to do is maybe move a few pictures of my own and a couple
ring tones.  This is getting close to more trouble then it's worth.

I am seeing SO MUCH information on this subject I don't know just what
to read first. And more important what to trust...

Thanks...
Doc
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bdog - 23 Jun 2007 20:26 GMT
>> I have the data cable. I have MPT 4.0.  And not I have BitPim 10.0
>
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> Doc
> --  --

I believe you can go to Motorola and download the USB drivers.  Maybe this
will allow MPT to recognize your phone.  In the Device Manager see if you
have a Motorola Modem listed there.  At Howards forums download
P2KCommander and the Motorola update software.  Read there how to use them.

bdog
Peter Pan - 24 Jun 2007 03:01 GMT
>>>> Just out of curiosity, why are you so determined to use MPT?
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 38 lines]
> Doc
> --  --

Not sure what you are talking about, since version ONE (not ten as you said
above, is the current version and was just released on June 12th, so I
hardly think they have had 10 new releases in 9 days!), and MPT is now
version 4.04b

Since you are in the verizon group, I assume you have a verizon one, which
is the V3Cm (c i take as meaning cdma, not sure what it really means, but
thats easy to remember...  m as manufacturer model specific, again not sure
what it really means, but easy to remember)

No reason to pick only one or the other, not to have one installed for the
other to work.. I have em BOTH on my system, (one, just bitpim on my sisters
system, and that works fine too by itself) I just find myself using bitpim
about 99.999% of the time

Be that as it may, you probably need a firmware update.....
at http://cavemonkey50.com/2006/04/verizon-enabling-file-transfers-on-razrs/
part of the website (from a few months ago),
Since yesterday, all Verizon Motorola RAZR users can take their phone in to
their local Verizon dealer for a free software update. While the main
purpose of this software is to fix the many bugs that have been plaguing the
device since its release, a big surprise comes with it. After the update,
hooking up your phone to your computer will allow you to use Motorola's
Phone Tools to transfer all your multimedia to and from your phone. That's
not all. OBEX, the service used to transfer data over Bluetooth, has been
added to the phone's list of Bluetooth services. This means that anyone with
a Bluetooth dongle has the ability to transfer and retrieve photos, etc.
from their phone for free.

==========================================
Sounds like what you had asked about, for more info, Howard Forums has the
(In My Opionion) best info (main page
http://www.howardforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=51)
Sandy Foster - 24 Jun 2007 16:48 GMT
> Since yesterday, all Verizon Motorola RAZR users can take their phone in to
> their local Verizon dealer for a free software update. While the main
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
>  

Will this software update mess up the phones belonging to those who have
successfully modified their phones to use MPT already? Or is it
something they wouldn't need to bother with?

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XS11E - 24 Jun 2007 17:48 GMT
> Will this software update mess up the phones belonging to those
> who have successfully modified their phones to use MPT already? Or
> is it something they wouldn't need to bother with?

You can restore the phone to original before taking it in for the
update to avoid any possible problems.  I don't think there would be
any problems but who knows, maybe they check for mods?

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Sandy Foster - 25 Jun 2007 02:19 GMT
> > Will this software update mess up the phones belonging to those
> > who have successfully modified their phones to use MPT already? Or
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> update to avoid any possible problems.  I don't think there would be
> any problems but who knows, maybe they check for mods?

That's what I'm worried about. But I do think (if I'm remembering
correctly) that part of the seem edit process was to save the original
in case a change back was necessary. I'll have to check.

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XS11E - 25 Jun 2007 07:04 GMT
>> > Will this software update mess up the phones belonging to those
>> > who have successfully modified their phones to use MPT already?
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> correctly) that part of the seem edit process was to save the
> original in case a change back was necessary. I'll have to check.

It's recommended but not everyone does it.  If you didn't save it,
you'll probably find the original on Howard Forums.

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Sandy Foster - 25 Jun 2007 18:30 GMT
> >> > Will this software update mess up the phones belonging to those
> >> > who have successfully modified their phones to use MPT already?
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> It's recommended but not everyone does it.  If you didn't save it,
> you'll probably find the original on Howard Forums.

Thanks. I checked, and I did save the original files; I'm something of a
fanatic about having a way "back" from things like this. <G>

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Peter Pan - 24 Jun 2007 18:45 GMT
>> Since yesterday, all Verizon Motorola RAZR users can take their
>> phone in to their local Verizon dealer for a free software update.
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> have successfully modified their phones to use MPT already? Or is it
> something they wouldn't need to bother with?

Depends on if you are just using the phone with MPT, or actually did a seem
edit to give it new functions... Your question didn't make that clear, and
as far as I know, you do NOT have to modify the phone just to use MPT (you
may have to download drivers for it, but that's on your puter and not the
phone). If you did a seem edit it will replace the edit and you have to do
it again, however if you just use the basic phone with MPT and no seem edit,
it will be fine..

Oddly enuf, many people seem edit the phone to gain Bluetooth OBEX
functionality... that's in the new firmware already, so If that's why you
did a seem edit, you may not even need to again, of course if you did one
for other reasons, you will have to do it again... If you get one of the
seems already premade (rather than edit it yourself, the new firmware is
usually used when editing)... Sorry, seem editing is a whole nother can of
worms, and without some sort of history, I couldn't even hazard a guess
whether or not it will work in your case
Sandy Foster - 25 Jun 2007 02:16 GMT
> > Will this software update mess up the phones belonging to those who
> > have successfully modified their phones to use MPT already? Or is it
> > something they wouldn't need to bother with?
>
> Depends on if you are just using the phone with MPT, or actually did a seem
> edit to give it new functions... Your question didn't make that clear,

Sorry about that.

>and
> as far as I know, you do NOT have to modify the phone just to use MPT (you
> may have to download drivers for it, but that's on your puter and not the
> phone). If you did a seem edit it will replace the edit and you have to do
> it again, however if you just use the basic phone with MPT and no seem edit,
> it will be fine..

No, I did do a seem edit; I couldn't make MPT work otherwise. And that's
why I'm curious. If I take my phone in and get the software update, will
Verizon throw a hissy fit because of what I did? Or won't they notice? I
don't mind doing the seem edit again, but I'm concerned that they may do
something drastic because of the seem edit.

> Oddly enuf, many people seem edit the phone to gain Bluetooth OBEX
> functionality... that's in the new firmware already, so If that's why you
> did a seem edit, you may not even need to again, of course if you did one
> for other reasons, you will have to do it again...

No, I wasn't worried about using Bluetooth. I just wanted to be able to
put my own ringtones on the phone and transfer photos back and forth
without paying for stuff I'd already bought or created myself.

>If you get one of the
> seems already premade (rather than edit it yourself, the new firmware is
> usually used when editing)... Sorry, seem editing is a whole nother can of
> worms, and without some sort of history, I couldn't even hazard a guess
> whether or not it will work in your case

I can understand that. I bought the information I needed for the seem
edit, and it worked perfectly. I'd probably have to call these people
and find out whether it would work again. But it's a moot point if
Verizon is going to fine me or something....

Thanks for anything you can tell me. :)

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Peter Pan - 25 Jun 2007 02:56 GMT
> I can understand that. I bought the information I needed for the seem
> edit, and it worked perfectly. I'd probably have to call these people
> and find out whether it would work again. But it's a moot point if
> Verizon is going to fine me or something....
>
> Thanks for anything you can tell me. :)

Depending on which phone you have, verizon has changed it's tune, and many
of the new phones/updated firmare are totally functional (ie not crippled at
all), Don't know on that specific model, but just picked up an lg vx8300
today that is totally uncrippled, and lets me xfer
photos/videos/ringtones/mp3's etc both by cable and via bluetooth... If you
get a chance, go by a store and see what the new ones can do (that's
essentially what yours will do after a firmware upgrade)... As for the techs
getting pissy about seem edits, I have heard that fear from people before,
but never heard of anyone that it actually happened too (doesn't mean it
can't happen, I have just never actually heard of it happening)...
Meat Plow - 25 Jun 2007 03:03 GMT
>> I can understand that. I bought the information I needed for the seem
>> edit, and it worked perfectly. I'd probably have to call these people
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> but never heard of anyone that it actually happened too (doesn't mean it
> can't happen, I have just never actually heard of it happening)...

So I can upgrade to the newest VZ RAZR and it won't be crippled? That's
cool. Been waiting for this a long time. Hacked my V3c a year ago and it's
been a great phone for me. But the newest RAZR has better sound and an SD
slot albeit a bit thicker.
Peter Pan - 25 Jun 2007 05:20 GMT
> So I can upgrade to the newest VZ RAZR and it won't be crippled?
> That's cool. Been waiting for this a long time. Hacked my V3c a year
> ago and it's been a great phone for me. But the newest RAZR has
> better sound and an SD slot albeit a bit thicker.

Can't say for sure, know they are going that way, from another post here's a
link to an article, and a cut and paste of the first paragraph....

at http://cavemonkey50.com/2006/04/verizon-enabling-file-transfers-on-razrs/

part of the website (from a few months ago),

Since yesterday, all Verizon Motorola RAZR users can take their phone in to
their local Verizon dealer for a free software update. While the main
purpose of this software is to fix the many bugs that have been plaguing the
device since its release, a big surprise comes with it. After the update,
hooking up your phone to your computer will allow you to use Motorola's
Phone Tools to transfer all your multimedia to and from your phone. That's
not all. OBEX, the service used to transfer data over Bluetooth, has been
added to the phone's list of Bluetooth services. This means that anyone with
a Bluetooth dongle has the ability to transfer and retrieve photos, etc.
from their phone for free.
Sandy Foster - 25 Jun 2007 03:48 GMT
> > I can understand that. I bought the information I needed for the seem
> > edit, and it worked perfectly. I'd probably have to call these people
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> but never heard of anyone that it actually happened too (doesn't mean it
> can't happen, I have just never actually heard of it happening)...

Thanks, Peter Pan. But my phone is almost brand new -- I just bought it
from Verizon about a month or so ago. :S Wish I could have waited, but
my old one fizzled.

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Meat Plow - 25 Jun 2007 04:17 GMT
>> > I can understand that. I bought the information I needed for the seem
>> > edit, and it worked perfectly. I'd probably have to call these people
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> from Verizon about a month or so ago. :S Wish I could have waited, but
> my old one fizzled.

Take it in and see if they can remove the multimedia blocks. I want to
upgrade my 2 year old V3c but not if I have to hack the V3m. I guess I'll
call them tomorrow and find out exactly what's going on.
The Dr. - 24 Jun 2007 21:17 GMT
>> Since yesterday, all Verizon Motorola RAZR users can take their phone in to
>> their local Verizon dealer for a free software update. While the main
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>successfully modified their phones to use MPT already? Or is it
>something they wouldn't need to bother with?

All I was asking when I started this was how to make the V3m usable
with MPT...  I have still not gotten what I call a clear answer to
that.

Since you have yours working with MPT maybe you can point me in the
right direction.

Thanks
Doc
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Meat Plow - 24 Jun 2007 21:44 GMT
>>> Since yesterday, all Verizon Motorola RAZR users can take their phone in to
>>> their local Verizon dealer for a free software update. While the main
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> Since you have yours working with MPT maybe you can point me in the
> right direction.

You've already been pointed that way. Verizon disables PC transfers of
multimedia files in their phone operating system. Go here and read, you
may want to join as someone might take you under his or her wing and walk
you through the procedures.

http://www.howardforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=51
BruceR - 24 Jun 2007 22:06 GMT
Sounds like the direction is to the nearest Verizon store for the free
upgrade that enables it. OR you can got the foums people have pointed
you to and read up on how to do it yourself.  If indeed Verizon has seen
the light and decided to "uncripple" their phones, just get the upgrade.

>>> Since yesterday, all Verizon Motorola RAZR users can take their
>>> phone in to their local Verizon dealer for a free software update.
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> Doc
> --  --
Peter Pan - 25 Jun 2007 01:43 GMT
> All I was asking when I started this was how to make the V3m usable
> with MPT...  I have still not gotten what I call a clear answer to
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Doc
> --  --

The answer is easy, MPT works just fine with many phones. (with the proper
DRIVERS).. The part that people keep not talking about, is the unique piece,
that goes between the phone and MPT... the DRIVERS.. MPT only has a very
limited number of drivers that come with it, but there are many many many
different phones,new ones all the time, and 3rd party drivers out there,
that make a specific phone functional, with that generic software (MPT)....
It is the DRIVERS you need for a specific phone to make it
standard/compatible with MPT....

In your specific case, you have two of the three things... MPT and a phone,
now you need drivers (specific for your model of phone).. Look or the
drivers for your specific model phone and MPT (sorry, posted a link for you
before, but cleaned/compressed my hard disk and don't have the old post with
the link, will look for it again when I get home and can peruse my backups)
BruceR - 25 Jun 2007 02:00 GMT
>> All I was asking when I started this was how to make the V3m usable
>> with MPT...  I have still not gotten what I call a clear answer to
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> have the old post with the link, will look for it again when I get
> home and can peruse my backups)

Remember though that VZW has a tendency to cripple features so you'll
have to use their pay services instead.  Someone posted earlier that VZW
will now do a free s/w upgrade to, among other things, restore the
phone's functionality.  It can also be done by following instructions
posted here earlier today.
Sandy Foster - 25 Jun 2007 02:20 GMT
> All I was asking when I started this was how to make the V3m usable
> with MPT...  I have still not gotten what I call a clear answer to
> that.
>
> Since you have yours working with MPT maybe you can point me in the
> right direction.

Doc, I did exactly what everyone here has been saying to do. I went to
the Howard Forums site and read and read until I found what I was
looking for. I ended up getting instructions and some software from a
place recommended there; it's called Cell Cables.

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The Dr. - 24 Jun 2007 21:22 GMT
>>>>> Just out of curiosity, why are you so determined to use MPT?
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 43 lines]
>hardly think they have had 10 new releases in 9 days!), and MPT is now
>version 4.04b

I guess it would be a given I wrote the wrong version number...

Either way nothing is happening with BitPim...

The question was dose MPT have to be running at the same time?  Or
maybe some other software? For BitPim to work?

>Since you are in the verizon group, I assume you have a verizon one, which
>is the V3Cm (c i take as meaning cdma, not sure what it really means, but
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>(In My Opionion) best info (main page
>http://www.howardforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=51)

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XS11E - 24 Jun 2007 22:57 GMT
> I guess it would be a given I wrote the wrong version number...
>
> Either way nothing is happening with BitPim...
>
> The question was dose MPT have to be running at the same time?
> Or maybe some other software?

No, AFAIK it should work all by itself.


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Peter Pan - 25 Jun 2007 01:58 GMT
> The question was dose MPT have to be running at the same time?  Or
> maybe some other software? For BitPim to work?

No, neither bitpim or MPT need each other to work, however, they BOTH need
manufacturer/model specific drivers. Neither come with all the drivers for
every phone, and model of that phone

Maybe an analogy will help... Think of windows (provides standard functions,
sort of like MPT provides standard functions), but some mice need a specific
DRIVER to convert the hardware specific info into things that windows
understands... In your case you have MPT(windows) and the phone(mouse), but
need a hardware specific DRIVER to interface between the phone and the
software...
Peter Pan - 25 Jun 2007 02:12 GMT
> I guess it would be a given I wrote the wrong version number...
>
> Either way nothing is happening with BitPim...
>
> The question was dose MPT have to be running at the same time?  Or
> maybe some other software? For BitPim to work?

First of all you may need drivers (goes between the phone and whatever
software you use, to convert the unique stuff to standard stuff)... as for
versions, look at the latest versions for both peices of software (Bitpim is
at verson 1.0.0 as of June 12th), and MPT is at version (my last update was
to 4.30 on  3/14/07)

For my e815 I had to install specific drivers for that phone, same for my
sisters vx8300 and dads v3m (both those required specific drivers too)
The Dr. - 25 Jun 2007 18:04 GMT
>>>>> Just out of curiosity, why are you so determined to use MPT?
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 67 lines]
>a Bluetooth dongle has the ability to transfer and retrieve photos, etc.
>from their phone for free.

I followed the link. Read the article. That sounded great...

I then called a verizon store. I told them the version of my software.
They did say there was an upgrade available.

BUT... This upgrade has been around a while. By no means new. And the
person I spoke with did not think it freed up anything on the phone.
Or made it useable with MPT.  But was not sure. His impression was it
was just fixing know issues with the phone.

I'll go over in the morning and have them do it and see if anything
good happens.

>==========================================
>Sounds like what you had asked about, for more info, Howard Forums has the
>(In My Opionion) best info (main page
>http://www.howardforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=51)

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Meat Plow - 25 Jun 2007 21:26 GMT
>>Be that as it may, you probably need a firmware update.....
>>at http://cavemonkey50.com/2006/04/verizon-enabling-file-transfers-on-razrs/
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> I'll go over in the morning and have them do it and see if anything
> good happens.

Spoke with two different Verizon reps on the phone. There are no updates
to allow multimedia transfers between phone and PC for the V3m. Did not
talk about others. So if I upgrade I'm headed to hack city like I did with
my V3c.
Curtis R Anderson - 25 Jun 2007 22:47 GMT
>>>Be that as it may, you probably need a firmware update.....
>>>at http://cavemonkey50.com/2006/04/verizon-enabling-file-transfers-on-razrs/
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> talk about others. So if I upgrade I'm headed to hack city like I did with
> my V3c.

I read the blog entry, comparing the SW versions mentioned with what the
V3m I have uses. My V3m's SW revision begins with NEWC, hardly the
versions addressed in the blog entry.

All we can do is wait with bated breath and hope for the best. I just
want to retrieve my text messages from the phone with something like
moto4lin or bitpim under Linux.
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The Dr. - 26 Jun 2007 02:19 GMT
>>>Be that as it may, you probably need a firmware update.....
>>>at http://cavemonkey50.com/2006/04/verizon-enabling-file-transfers-on-razrs/
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
>talk about others. So if I upgrade I'm headed to hack city like I did with
>my V3c.

I can say this is true. I just got back from the verizon store. I had
the upgrade done. The version number is now  ( NEWC_01.09.02 )

NO DIFFERENCE in the area of making it work with MPT.  None.

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Peter Pan - 26 Jun 2007 04:48 GMT
>>>> Be that as it may, you probably need a firmware update.....
>>>> at
[quoted text clipped - 36 lines]
>
> --  --

So what version of MPT are you using (your posts have never said, current
version is 4), and what connection are you using (cable or are you using
bluetooth?) (think of connections as like gas for a car, you may have a car
and keys (MPT and phone), but you need gas (connections) to make it go.....

You may want to look at the support page for MPT
http://direct.motorola.com/Hellomoto/nss/productresource.asp?PhoneModel=mpt
there are certainly step by step instructs on how to use it (and they are
probably more accurate than wht you read on usenet)
The Dr. - 26 Jun 2007 05:37 GMT
>>>>> Be that as it may, you probably need a firmware update.....
>>>>> at
[quoted text clipped - 41 lines]
>bluetooth?) (think of connections as like gas for a car, you may have a car
>and keys (MPT and phone), but you need gas (connections) to make it go.....

Near the start of this thread I stated I had MPT 4.0 I think that
upgrades to 4.3 or 4 as you install it.  I also said I had the
cable...

car gas & keys...  I can hardly wait to see where this is going.  Fire
up and type on...

>You may want to look at the support page for MPT
>http://direct.motorola.com/Hellomoto/nss/productresource.asp?PhoneModel=mpt
>there are certainly step by step instructs on how to use it (and they are
>probably more accurate than wht you read on usenet)

--  --
Peter Pan - 26 Jun 2007 16:55 GMT
> Near the start of this thread I stated I had MPT 4.0 I think that
> upgrades to 4.3 or 4 as you install it.  I also said I had the
> cable...
>
> car gas & keys...  I can hardly wait to see where this is going.  Fire
> up and type on...

Where it's going, is to try and get it working for you... Bit hard to debug
stuff over usenet, especially when you get older (like me), and forget what
makes/models/versions of stuff someone has....

Next thing I would suggest trying (quick/easy and free), when you hook the
cable to your phone, no software programs running, and plug it into the USB
port on the 'puter, does it recognize the device (ie little popup comes up
and says what device it is, or maybe an unrecognized device, or maybe no
driver found?, it should definatly say something if the cable and USB stuff
are working, (don't actually do anything, just take note of what happens
when you plug it in, will let you know if the cable/usb port are at least
working)....
Meat Plow - 26 Jun 2007 05:14 GMT
>>>>Be that as it may, you probably need a firmware update.....
>>>>at http://cavemonkey50.com/2006/04/verizon-enabling-file-transfers-on-razrs/
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
>
> NO DIFFERENCE in the area of making it work with MPT.  None.

Try a different model of cdma razr like the V3cm. Remember that Motorola
also disables the Multimedia Studio in MPT for phones that are crippled by
VZ so it doesn't even show up on the menu. You'll have to set it up
manually but I can't help you now because I'm not on a Windows Computer.
If you're willing to try, post back and I'll walk you through it tomorrow
after 9:am EST. This is how they do the RAZR V3c phones so maybe it will
work with yours, might be worth a shot.
The Dr. - 26 Jun 2007 05:44 GMT
>>>>>Be that as it may, you probably need a firmware update.....
>>>>>at http://cavemonkey50.com/2006/04/verizon-enabling-file-transfers-on-razrs/
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
>after 9:am EST. This is how they do the RAZR V3c phones so maybe it will
>work with yours, might be worth a shot.

V3m is not on the list.  The only others to pick from are the V3c. No
media studio there.  The lash choice is the V3cm. The only thing that
works there in the contact list...

Nothing left to try...
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Diamond Dave - 22 Jun 2007 00:42 GMT
>Everything I am reading tell me I will find the information I need
>at...   www.howardforums.com
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
>Any help in leading me to the right info will be appreciated.

If its a Verizon phone, its already unlocked. Typically the unlock
code with all Motorola phones sold via Verizon is "000000" (six
zeros). Of course, you need to know the "DEBUG" code to get in and do
things with the phone. I'll leave that exercise up to you (hint - do a
Google or Howard Forum search). Or figure it out from this post....
:-)

Its not like a GSM phone where they're locked by default (if sold by
AT&T or T-Mobile).

Dave
BruceR - 22 Jun 2007 02:03 GMT
See details at www.motox.info

>> Everything I am reading tell me I will find the information I need
>> at...   www.howardforums.com
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
> Dave
 
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