Home | Contact Us | FAQ | Search & Site Map | Link to Us
Sign In | Join | Other 45 Sites in Network
Home
Discussion Groups
General
General TopicsGSMBluetooth
Providers
AlltelATT WirelessCingularFidoNextelSprint PCST-MobileVerizon
Manufacturers
EricssonNokiaMotorola
Country Specific
Australian GroupUK Group
Related Topics
PocketPCPalmMore Topics ...

Cellular Phone Forum / Manufacturers / Motorola / August 2007

Tip: Looking for answers? Try searching our database.

GSM coverage

Thread view: 
Enable EMail Alerts  Start New Thread
Thread rating: 
brucedpaige@gmail.com - 16 Aug 2007 14:22 GMT
I presently live in Thailand where hand phones are all GSM. Here it is
possible to purchase what is called a "pre paid SIM" in other words a
SIM with some talk time already allotted to it. It is also possible to
top up the SIM when you run out of time.

Can any one advise me whether this type of service exists in the U.S.
Or alternatively, if I visit the U.S. what is the best method of
having  a cell phone for a short, say 2 weeks - 1 month stay? Is GSM
generally available there?

Bruce in Bangkok
(brucepaigeATgmailDOTcom)
Mike S. - 16 Aug 2007 17:48 GMT
>I presently live in Thailand where hand phones are all GSM. Here it is
>possible to purchase what is called a "pre paid SIM" in other words a
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>having  a cell phone for a short, say 2 weeks - 1 month stay? Is GSM
>generally available there?

Two two major GSM providers in the US, T-Mobile USA and AT&T (formerly
Cingular Wireless) both offer prepaid services.

Of these, the T-Mobile variety is usually cheaper; however its geographic
coverage is thinner and concentrated in cities and connecting highways.
If you will be staying in populated areas it's probably the better
bargain.

Both brands are generally sold bundled with low-end GSM phones; however as
a visitor to the US, the easiest way to get a SIM-only package is to buy
it from a company-owned store. That way, if your Thai phone has the
appropriate radio band coverage (850/1900 for AT&T; 1900 for T-Mobile USA)
you won't have to buy one in the US.


you want get just a SIM
Bert Hyman - 16 Aug 2007 18:01 GMT
>>I presently live in Thailand where hand phones are all GSM. Here it
>>is possible to purchase what is called a "pre paid SIM" in other
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> connecting highways. If you will be staying in populated areas it's
> probably the better bargain.

T-Mobile allows their pre-paid customers to roam, while AT&T's
pre-paid customers only get use of AT&T's own network.

Here's AT&T's coverage map:

http://www.wireless.att.com/coverageviewer/?WT.svl=title

The pre-paid customers don't get coverage in any area marked as
"Partner".

Here's T-Mobile's pre-paid coverage map:

http://www.t-mobile.com/coverage/Prepaid.aspx

> Both brands are generally sold bundled with low-end GSM phones;
> however as a visitor to the US, the easiest way to get a SIM-only
> package is to buy it from a company-owned store. That way, if your
> Thai phone has the appropriate radio band coverage (850/1900 for
> AT&T; 1900 for T-Mobile USA) you won't have to buy one in the US.

T-Mobile offers roaming service on 850MHz in some areas.

> you want get just a SIM

If you already have an unlocked GSM phone that works on the US
frequencies, it's sometimes still cheaper to buy a complete pre-paid
phone package at a discount store like Target or WalMart and simply
take the SIM card out and put it in your own phone.

Signature

Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | bert@iphouse.com

cellular@motorola.net - 16 Aug 2007 21:40 GMT
>I presently live in Thailand where hand phones are all GSM. Here it is
>possible to purchase what is called a "pre paid SIM" in other words a
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>Bruce in Bangkok
>(brucepaigeATgmailDOTcom)

Assuming you'll have GSM service in the area or areas of the US you intend
to visit, have a shufty on the 'Net for Worldwide SIMs.  Several companies
supply accounts with reasonable charges, well reasonable IMO.
Gordon Huff - 17 Aug 2007 07:00 GMT
==snip==

>> Can any one advise me whether this type of service exists in the U.S.
>> Or alternatively, if I visit the U.S. what is the best method of
>> having  a cell phone for a short, say 2 weeks - 1 month stay? Is GSM
>> generally available there?

Yes -- there are about 100 companies in the US that offer this kind of
service. The lion's share of these companies are on Sprint (CDMA) but
about 20 are GSM. If you're coming to the US for a month you might have
a local contact and I'd suggest you rely on them.

You indicate that you want to buy a pre-paid SIM for use with your
unlocked GSM phone. The T-Mobile stores want $50 for this. You can buy
the same package online for $15 (Lewis Wireless) -- best to get your
local contact to do this. (This could take a few days for shipping,
etc.) The Cingular (now AT&T) prepaid phone and SIM is $19 at Radio
Shack and $18.43 at WalMart (both stores are everywhere in the US.) $15
will buy 60 minutes of airtime from Cingular and keep the phone active
for 30 days.

T-Mobile is a few dollars more up front ... but the phones are nicer and
airtime is cheaper and the phones stay active longer.

Because a North American dual band phone is not very useful to you in
Thailand ... I suggest you give it away as a bread and butter gift in
the US ... if this happens at the end of your trip, you could give them
the SIM too.

There are sales, too. $15 and some airtime for T-Mobile ; $10 and some
airtime at Cingular (Virgin offers a free phone with as little as $10 in
airtime..but they're CDMA in the US -- on the Sprint network.)

Regards, Gordon
Michael Paris - 18 Aug 2007 02:43 GMT
> Because a North American dual band phone is not very useful to you in
> Thailand ... I suggest you give it away as a bread and butter gift in the
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Regards, Gordon

Great information Gordon, I would also add, avoid Tracphone like you would
avoid the AIDS virus.  If in the US, and you don't have to use your phone,
and you don't have to have GSM, I second the Virgin Mobile for your local
use.  If not, I do prefer AT&T for the few bux more and just use it in the
phone.  Sprint doesn't have pay as you go, and I'm not sure about Verizon
Wireless or their prices.
John LaBella - 18 Aug 2007 14:24 GMT
In this area PAYG SIM is Tmobile (I wireless Affliate) and Cingular(Now
AT&T). If the original poster has no concerns about what his cell number
is then I can recomend the Bay that begins with E and he can get 150 -
300 minutes in the sub $20.00 range. If he really likes the number he
gets then he can buy additional airtime (T mobile to go etc.)

Other PAYG phones may or may not be gsm based Trac phone may be GSM
based but they are locked to their service.

If the phone he has in Thailand is unlocked then the above will serve
him well. If it isn't unlocked ask his provider for the codes.
brucedpaige@gmail.com - 18 Aug 2007 14:48 GMT
>In this area PAYG SIM is Tmobile (I wireless Affliate) and Cingular(Now
>AT&T). If the original poster has no concerns about what his cell number
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>If the phone he has in Thailand is unlocked then the above will serve
>him well. If it isn't unlocked ask his provider for the codes.

For all practical purposes all hand phones in Thailand are sold
unlocked. At one time AIS, the original single provider, allowed
selling only locked phones but as soon as the second operator got
enough stations working to provide some coverage people started having
their phones unlocked in order to utilize the second, cheaper,
service.

Another point that might be of interest is that the vast majority of
hand phones here are using prepaid SIMs. The days of yearly, or longer
term, contracts is pretty much over. Now you go down to the hand phone
shop and buy the phone of your choice, buy a SIM from the provider you
like best and go. The cheapest phones are now going for US$ 25.00 or
less.

I might also add that as all hand phone calls, anywhere within the
country, are billed at the same rate the use of "land line' phones
with their long distance charges is declining rapidly.

Bruce in Bangkok
(brucepaigeATgmailDOTcom)
Andreas Wenzel - 18 Aug 2007 16:04 GMT
brucedpaige@gmail.com schrieb:
> [...]
> For all practical purposes all hand phones in Thailand are sold
> unlocked. [...]
>  The cheapest phones are now going for US$ 25.00 or
> less.  [...]

Those cheap phones are rarely quadband. AIS uses 900 and 1800MHz bands.
To work in the US, you will need a phone that (additionally) works on
1900MHz (for AT&T) and 850MHz (for T-Mobile). So before taking off with
your phone, make sure it supports those bands.

Andreas
BruceR - 18 Aug 2007 22:41 GMT
> brucedpaige@gmail.com schrieb:
>> [...]
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Andreas

That's 850/1900 for ATT and 1900 for TMo w/some 850 roaming.
Andreas Wenzel - 18 Aug 2007 23:45 GMT
BruceR schrieb:
>  [...]
> That's 850/1900 for ATT and 1900 for TMo w/some 850 roaming.

Oops, that's right of course...
brucedpaige@gmail.com - 19 Aug 2007 02:44 GMT
>brucedpaige@gmail.com schrieb:
>> [...]
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
>Andreas

Agreed. My phone is quad band, I only mentioned the fact that phones
had fallen toridiculously low costs here.

Bruce in Bangkok
(brucepaigeATgmailDOTcom)
 
Sign In
Join
My Latest Posts
My Monitored Threads
My Blog
My Photo Gallery
My Profile
My Homepage

Start New Thread
Enable EMail Alerts
Rate this Thread



©2008 Advenet LLC   Privacy Policy - Terms of Use
This website includes both content owned or controlled by Advenet as well as content owned or controlled by third parties.