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WGD - 05 Feb 2008 00:57 GMT
Have older version of Motorola's Phone Tools - does not support the V3a
(though the V3c is in its list)

Wrote to BVRP - no response.  Thus what is the best way to upgrade this
older software?  (and not to have to spend $60 or so for a new SW pkg!)

Tks!
dold@74.usenet.us.com - 05 Feb 2008 01:06 GMT
> Wrote to BVRP - no response.  Thus what is the best way to upgrade this
> older software?  (and not to have to spend $60 or so for a new SW pkg!)

As far as I know, all versions of MPT will upgrade to the newest version of
MPT via the internet.  The newer versions check on each startup.  The older
versions only checked when you Menu-Setup-LiveUpdate.  Some of the upgrade
steps are many MB, and the system seems to download them one at a time.

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Richard B. Gilbert - 05 Feb 2008 01:19 GMT
>>Wrote to BVRP - no response.  Thus what is the best way to upgrade this
>>older software?  (and not to have to spend $60 or so for a new SW pkg!)
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> versions only checked when you Menu-Setup-LiveUpdate.  Some of the upgrade
> steps are many MB, and the system seems to download them one at a time.

In my case the upgrade either didn't happen or didn't work.  I went
through the motions and it still wouldn't recognize my RAZR V3m.
The Dr. - 05 Feb 2008 14:10 GMT
>>>Wrote to BVRP - no response.  Thus what is the best way to upgrade this
>>>older software?  (and not to have to spend $60 or so for a new SW pkg!)
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>In my case the upgrade either didn't happen or didn't work.  I went
>through the motions and it still wouldn't recognize my RAZR V3m.

If this is a verizon phone?  If yes I had the same situation. I found
out after getting it the verizon razors are crippled. Just another way
verizon can suck a little more money out of you through there Vcast
crap.
I am told the phone can be unlocked. I never really looked into it.
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Richard B. Gilbert - 05 Feb 2008 17:50 GMT
>>>>Wrote to BVRP - no response.  Thus what is the best way to upgrade this
>>>>older software?  (and not to have to spend $60 or so for a new SW pkg!)
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> I am told the phone can be unlocked. I never really looked into it.
> --  --

Yes, it's a Verizon phone.  I complained to Motorola Technical Support
and was allowed to download a version of Motorola Phone Tools that DID
support the RAZR.  I was then able to set up my contacts list and
calendar using my computer.

If I had known then what I know now, I would have signed up with a
different service provider.  I had been with Verizon Wireless for years
both with and without a contract and had no problems with the service.
It was only after I bought two new RAZRs and signed a new contract that
I found out about some of the problems in dealing with Verizon.

I have no interest in watching TV or listening to music using my phone!
I don't watch TV at all any more and find that "popular music" mostly
just hurt my ears!
TKM - 07 Feb 2008 17:55 GMT
>>>>>Wrote to BVRP - no response.  Thus what is the best way to upgrade this
>>>>>older software?  (and not to have to spend $60 or so for a new SW pkg!)
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
> I don't watch TV at all any more and find that "popular music" mostly just
> hurt my ears!

Join the growing unhappy group of Verizon/V3m subscribers.  Same story here.

TKM
The Dr. - 08 Feb 2008 14:16 GMT
>>>>>Wrote to BVRP - no response.  Thus what is the best way to upgrade this
>>>>>older software?  (and not to have to spend $60 or so for a new SW pkg!)
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>I don't watch TV at all any more and find that "popular music" mostly
>just hurt my ears!

Same here.  I have been with verizon several years back into the Air
Touch days...
Being a long time customer means sh.t to them...

I thought it would be cute if I could make an mp3 I like into a ring
tone. Or easily move a few pictures back and forth from the computer
to the phone.

Nothing I had in mind worked. The only way I could make it happen was
to use the blood sucking Vcast.  Not a chance.

I was able to do a little of what I wanted by putting things on the
memory card and renaming the files.

But I was and still am really disappointed with verizon for selling me
such a crippled piece of sh.t and not telling me till I bought it.
And with motorola for making this neutered piece of crap for verizon.

I guess any whore will swallow if the price is right...
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bruceR - 08 Feb 2008 15:33 GMT
Go to www.howardforums.com and www.motox.info to learn how to uncripple your
phone. It's not hard to do and you'll get what you paid for. While others
here may disagree, you bought a phone that Motorola spent millions
advertising as having certain capabilities and functions and you had a
reasonable expectation that you would get what was advertised. The fact that
Verizon disables - I call it cripples - the phone is certainly whithin their
rights, but they have a duty to let you know that their product is not as
fully featured and capable as the version Motorola advertises.  Sounds like
a good class action suit!

>>>>>>Wrote to BVRP - no response.  Thus what is the best way to upgrade
>>>>>>this
[quoted text clipped - 54 lines]
> I guess any whore will swallow if the price is right...
> --  --
The Dr. - 08 Feb 2008 23:21 GMT
>Go to www.howardforums.com and www.motox.info to learn how to uncripple your
>phone. It's not hard to do and you'll get what you paid for. While others
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>fully featured and capable as the version Motorola advertises.  Sounds like
>a good class action suit!

I asked what could be done when I got this phone. I was sent to
www.howardforums.com. I would have tried to unlock or uncripple if I
would have found a straight forward step by step set of instructions
to do it.
For the most part after spending way to much time reading there I just
found opinions there.
Someone would say try this. Another guy would say he did but it didn't
work.
If I could find a direct step by step list of what to do, and what
programs I needed to do it I would try.

I finally just burned out reading all the crap there and gave up on
doing anything...

Every time I see anyone ask this same question I see them get sent to
www.howardforums.com.  Never have seen anyone come back and say
"thanks, that worked great"...

I feel I am as good as anyone when it comes to tampering with things
like this. Not afraid to try, that's for sure.

I never really found anything there I thought was worth trying.

>>>>>>>Wrote to BVRP - no response.  Thus what is the best way to upgrade
>>>>>>>this
[quoted text clipped - 54 lines]
>> I guess any whore will swallow if the price is right...
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XS11E - 09 Feb 2008 00:11 GMT
> I asked what could be done when I got this phone. I was sent to
> www.howardforums.com. I would have tried to unlock or uncripple if
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> I never really found anything there I thought was worth trying.

Apparently you never really looked.  Your post above proves it, go back
and try again.  It's very simple and easy to do and I'm VERY thankful
to those who pointed me to Howard forums.

Start here and don't hesitate to follow links:

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1122273

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The Dr. - 09 Feb 2008 14:57 GMT
>> I asked what could be done when I got this phone. I was sent to
>> www.howardforums.com. I would have tried to unlock or uncripple if
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>
>http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1122273

I looked. I looked longer then I wanted to. But maybe spent my time
reading the wrong material.  I'll give it another try.

I just wonder if it's such an easy follow the step process why it
hasn't showed up here...?

This is the only kind of help I've ever seen here. Someone saying how
easy it is. And a link...
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bruceR - 09 Feb 2008 15:18 GMT
>>> I asked what could be done when I got this phone. I was sent to
>>> www.howardforums.com. I would have tried to unlock or uncripple if
[quoted text clipped - 36 lines]
> easy it is. And a link...
> --  --

Unfortunately, nobody has put together a simple step by step manual but you
might have better luck at www.motox.info or www.motomodders.net or
www.vxxxstuff.com  or www.modmymoto.com.  All are good sources but it takes
some digging.  As for what software to use to do the SEEM edits on your v3,
Motokit is my personal favorite and can be downloaded from any of the sites
I listed.
XS11E - 09 Feb 2008 15:47 GMT
> Unfortunately, nobody has put together a simple step by step
> manual but you might have better luck at www.motox.info or
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> personal favorite and can be downloaded from any of the sites I
> listed.

One more VERY good source:

http://www.hacktherazr.com/guides.html

Look under "Programming".

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bruceR - 09 Feb 2008 19:21 GMT
>> Unfortunately, nobody has put together a simple step by step
>> manual but you might have better luck at www.motox.info or
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Look under "Programming".

That's a new one for me... looks very good. Thanks!
XS11E - 09 Feb 2008 21:16 GMT
>>> Unfortunately, nobody has put together a simple step by step
>>> manual but you might have better luck at www.motox.info or
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> That's a new one for me... looks very good. Thanks!

Hope it works for you...

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S.G. - 01 Mar 2008 06:13 GMT
>I looked. I looked longer then I wanted to. But maybe spent my time
>reading the wrong material.  I'll give it another try.
>
>I just wonder if it's such an easy follow the step process why it
>hasn't showed up here...?

There are a lot of bozos on the net.  And many of them pretend like
they know it all.  Even on the usenet & web forums.

>This is the only kind of help I've ever seen here. Someone saying how
>easy it is. And a link...
>--  --

I spent a whole night going from forum to forum and compiling
information -- much of it wrong and nonspecific -- before I was able
to get into my phone.  In the end, it really is very easy, if you know
what to do.  I have posted the instructions here before.  If you are
willing to try, I can walk you through the steps.
Sandy Foster - 09 Feb 2008 00:22 GMT
> Every time I see anyone ask this same question I see them get sent to
> www.howardforums.com.  Never have seen anyone come back and say
> "thanks, that worked great"...

Okay, let me be the first. <G> I did go to howardforums, found where to
buy some "uncrippling" software, followed the directions and now have
many of the advertised capabilities of my Razr V3m back where they
belong -- with me. I bought a CD from cellcables.com -- worked like a
charm. HTH.

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GJIsh - 29 Feb 2008 08:56 GMT
> In article <88opq3tl98dsadgsj2pjfcbmuo8nvmr...@4ax.com>,
>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Sandy
> sw.foster 1 (at) gmail (dot) com (remove/change the obvious)http://www.sandymike.net

I just got the Razr V3m a few days ago. I checked out cellcables.com
and ended up sending them an Email regarding the compatability with
Vista. It works with Vista but it seems Verizon put some new software
on the Razr and cellcables.com doesn't have the software set up for
Verizon's new version. Customer support (which was very responsive)
said to check back in a couple of weeks and they would have the new
software listed.

I'm curious, how hard is cellcables.com's software to use. Is it like
a regular program or what? One thing their site doesn't do is show
screen shots.
Sandy Foster - 29 Feb 2008 16:47 GMT
In article
<c5f6e7f3-03db-400f-a3b6-d353ab1af3d0@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,

> I just got the Razr V3m a few days ago. I checked out cellcables.com
> and ended up sending them an Email regarding the compatability with
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> a regular program or what? One thing their site doesn't do is show
> screen shots.

I have the V3m, too, but mine is obviously older than yours. I used
cellcables.com's software and found it extremely easy to do -- no
glitches at all. There were lots of illustrations in the documentation
they sent, and I just did one step at a time until it was finished. Oh,
and they'd had me save the bits and pieces I needed to replace, so if
something had gone wrong I could have gone back to the original crippled
Razr. NAYY -- just a happy customer.

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GJIsh - 01 Mar 2008 04:19 GMT
> In article
> <c5f6e7f3-03db-400f-a3b6-d353ab1af...@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> Sandy
> sw.foster 1 (at) gmail (dot) com (remove/change the obvious)http://www.sandymike.net

Sandy, thanks for posting back. I'm hoping cellcables.com comes
through. I'm sure they will. I just hate forking over more $$ to
Verizon. I'd change carriers but they have the best coverage of all.
Guess they know it and they figure go ahead and go some where else,
you'll be back. By the way, I checked out your Website, love the dogs!
Our pup has her own site at http://www.geocities.com/gordonsdog/.
Sandy Foster - 01 Mar 2008 17:12 GMT
In article
<d8f35273-fb72-44c8-b0af-6283438cdde8@e60g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,

> Sandy, thanks for posting back. I'm hoping cellcables.com comes
> through. I'm sure they will. I just hate forking over more $$ to
> Verizon. I'd change carriers but they have the best coverage of all.
> Guess they know it and they figure go ahead and go some where else,
> you'll be back. By the way, I checked out your Website, love the dogs!
> Our pup has her own site at http://www.geocities.com/gordonsdog/.

You're very welcome! I hope they come through for you, too. I know just
what you mean about Verizon; I always think I'm going to change
carriers, but then I realize I'd lose coverage. :S

Maggie looks like a real sweetheart! And good for you for adopting a
rescue. That will be our next dog, when the time comes. I think our
current puppy will be our last *puppy* -- but I can't see myself without
a dog, so rescue it will be. :)

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WGD - 07 Feb 2008 22:59 GMT
Via eBay - for $0.98, yes $o.98 via PayPal, I purchased Motorola's MPT
latest ver 4.5.6a said to support ALLTEL CDMA Razr V3a.   So far it does
not.

BTW, the eBay supplier said the 4.5.6a does NOT support/work with the V3a!

Motorola sent me this afternoon a page of instructions relative to how to
make 4.5.6a work with the V3a (CDMA)

Stay tuned.  Will see later this evening and report back.

WGD

>> Wrote to BVRP - no response.  Thus what is the best way to upgrade this
>> older software?  (and not to have to spend $60 or so for a new SW pkg!)
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> versions only checked when you Menu-Setup-LiveUpdate.  Some of the upgrade
> steps are many MB, and the system seems to download them one at a time.
Richard B. Gilbert - 05 Feb 2008 01:18 GMT
> Have older version of Motorola's Phone Tools - does not support the V3a
> (though the V3c is in its list)
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>  

Call Motorola Tech Support and complain! I got satisfaction!
Country Boy - 07 Feb 2008 15:18 GMT
I am an AllTel subscriber with 2 new V3a phones. MPT will
not work for me either.  Downloaded newer MPT upgrade
and still no luck.

CB

>> Have older version of Motorola's Phone Tools - does not support the V3a
>> (though the V3c is in its list)
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Call Motorola Tech Support and complain! I got satisfaction!
Richard B. Gilbert - 07 Feb 2008 16:35 GMT
> I am an AllTel subscriber with 2 new V3a phones. MPT will
> not work for me either.  Downloaded newer MPT upgrade
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>>
>>Call Motorola Tech Support and complain! I got satisfaction!

Just updating MPT does not make it support the RAZR.  Call the Motorola
Customer Support Center at (800) 657-8909.  Explain your problem.  I
can't speak for them but they gave me a time limited URL which I used to
download the version with RAZR V3m support.
dold@74.usenet.us.com - 07 Feb 2008 17:44 GMT
> Just updating MPT does not make it support the RAZR.  Call the Motorola
> Customer Support Center at (800) 657-8909.  Explain your problem.  I
> can't speak for them but they gave me a time limited URL which I used to
> download the version with RAZR V3m support.

The downloadable URL is a single download that should result in the same
level MPT as a series of updates applied to any version of MPT.

The MPT live updates only move one step at a time, so the downloads might
total over 100MB, instead of the URL, which is the latest level.

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Country Boy - 07 Feb 2008 18:19 GMT
Thanks folks.  I will call them.

CB

>> Just updating MPT does not make it support the RAZR.  Call the Motorola
>> Customer Support Center at (800) 657-8909.  Explain your problem.  I
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> The MPT live updates only move one step at a time, so the downloads might
> total over 100MB, instead of the URL, which is the latest level.
The Dr. - 08 Feb 2008 20:15 GMT
>> I am an AllTel subscriber with 2 new V3a phones. MPT will
>> not work for me either.  Downloaded newer MPT upgrade
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>can't speak for them but they gave me a time limited URL which I used to
>download the version with RAZR V3m support.

So far so good... I did call. They did email me a link to download
what should work with this V3m.
I have not tried it yet. But will let the results be known, good or
bad...

Not sure why they asked if I wanted to continue in (English). Then I
got connected to a women that could hardly speak it...
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XS11E - 08 Feb 2008 21:20 GMT
> Not sure why they asked if I wanted to continue in (English). Then
> I got connected to a women that could hardly speak it...

A friend once asked a tech support person, "How's the weather in
Bombay?"  His reply was, "Oh, no, sir, I am in Calcutta!"

There are a bunch of people working tech support in Indian call centers
who speak very good English and who are very understandable and
knowledgeable but I never seem to get one of those... <sigh>

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Richard B. Gilbert - 09 Feb 2008 02:12 GMT
>>>I am an AllTel subscriber with 2 new V3a phones. MPT will
>>>not work for me either.  Downloaded newer MPT upgrade
>>>and still no luck.
<snip>

> So far so good... I did call. They did email me a link to download
> what should work with this V3m.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Not sure why they asked if I wanted to continue in (English). Then I
> got connected to a women that could hardly speak it...

Remember that a lot of "support" is now outsourced to India.  A few
Indians, generally British educated, speak better English than we do.
Most of them speak with an accent that tells you instantly that they are
not native speakers.  I find that a lot of them are difficult to
understand!  Of course I have a hearing aid in each ear and sometimes
have trouble understanding even native speakers. . . .
The Dr. - 09 Feb 2008 14:52 GMT
>>>>I am an AllTel subscriber with 2 new V3a phones. MPT will
>>>>not work for me either.  Downloaded newer MPT upgrade
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>understand!  Of course I have a hearing aid in each ear and sometimes
>have trouble understanding even native speakers. . . .

I live right in the middle of the U.S. So I know what a Mexican trying
to speak English sounds like.  And that's what she sounded like to
me.:)
I said "what'd you say" so many times I was starting to feel bad...
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Richard B. Gilbert - 09 Apr 2008 03:54 GMT
>>> I am an AllTel subscriber with 2 new V3a phones. MPT will
>>> not work for me either.  Downloaded newer MPT upgrade
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> I have not tried it yet. But will let the results be known, good or
> bad...

<snip>

Don't delay too long.  If that URL is like the one they gave me, it's
good for 72 hours!!  Once you download it, it's a good idea to make a
copy on another disk drive and/or burn a copy to CD/DVD.
Doc Holoiday - 03 Jun 2008 00:27 GMT
Try this...

http://torrents.thepiratebay.org/4101978/Motorola_Phone_Tools_5.0.5_Retail.41019
78.TPB.torrent


Your Welcome =)

>>>>>> Have older version of Motorola's Phone Tools - does not support the V3a
>>>>>> (though the V3c is in its list)
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tks!
The Dr. - 08 Feb 2008 23:43 GMT
>> I am an AllTel subscriber with 2 new V3a phones. MPT will
>> not work for me either.  Downloaded newer MPT upgrade
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>can't speak for them but they gave me a time limited URL which I used to
>download the version with RAZR V3m support.

OK... I did this. I was emailed a link that was good for 5 days or 5
download attempts. I downloaded and installed (4.5.6aeng.exe)

It sorta works...  It will let you at anything that verizon has not
figured out how to charge you for yet.  And a couple things they can
charge you for...

With these new tools I can...

Sync.
Make changes in the phone book.
Make changes in the calendar.
Make a text message.  (Still haven't figured out what that's good for)
Make an Internet connection (verizon would love you to do this)

These new phone tools will NOT let you access the directories on the
memory card.

I know version 4.0 had something that made me think if the phone
weren't crippled you could do a little in that area.  Not sure what
the selections were called. Something like (my photos or my music)

These new tools let you do a little more. But certainly not all you
could.

I have seen what you can do on one that is not crippled. If you want
you can move photos and music from the computer to the phone. Make any
mp3 a ring tone...  Just crap like that. Not really useful, Just fun
stuff...

The stuff verizon has 3 of the 4 arrows locked into Vcast crap for.

Any move you make with this phone they want to suck additional money
out of you to do it.

OK... This is turning from useful information into a rant about how
verizon sucks. And everyone already knows that... Sorry.

Dr.
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