Cellular Phone Forum / Manufacturers / Motorola / February 2008
L6 and Mobile Phone Tools
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fm2766 - 21 Feb 2008 20:25 GMT Hello, I have Mobile Phone Tools for A835 (version 2.16). I bought the L6, and I want to move all data (calendar, address book, photos, ...). Unfortunately, the program can't see L6, and I'm unable to complete the upgrade (I don't know why). How can I do? Thank you all.
John Navas - 21 Feb 2008 20:59 GMT >Hello, I have Mobile Phone Tools for A835 (version 2.16). >I bought the L6, and I want to move all data (calendar, address book, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >How can I do? >Thank you all. You need a current version of MPT, cheaply available from ShopOEM.com or on eBay.
 Signature Best regards, MOTOROLA WIKI: John Navas <http://cell.wikia.com/wiki/Motorola>
fm2766 - 23 Feb 2008 21:31 GMT John Navas ha scritto:
>> Hello, I have Mobile Phone Tools for A835 (version 2.16). >> I bought the L6, and I want to move all data (calendar, address book, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > You need a current version of MPT, cheaply available from ShopOEM.com or > on eBay. So, must I buy again the same program? Can't I update it? If it was so, it would be stigmatising.
Richard B. Gilbert - 23 Feb 2008 22:10 GMT > John Navas ha scritto: > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > So, must I buy again the same program? Can't I update it? If it was so, > it would be stigmatising. You should be able to update it. I'm not terribly impressed with MPT! I bought a copy from Amazon.com, got the disk, installed it, ran the update procedure and discovered that it could not "see" my RAZR V3m. I called Motorola Technical Support at the number in my Users Manual and was allowed to download a version that did recognize the RAZR.
The program does not announce its version in any way that I can see. It will not coexist with the software for another USB device that I have.
I got it working long enough to enter my contacts through a real keyboard which was all I really need the program for.
I think, however, that next time I will buy a different brand of phone from a different provider!
fm2766 - 23 Feb 2008 22:55 GMT Richard B. Gilbert ha scritto:
>> John Navas ha scritto: >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> so, it would be stigmatising. > You should be able to update it. Instead I can't update it.
> I'm not terribly impressed with MPT! me too.
> I bought a copy from Amazon.com, got the disk, installed it, ran the > update procedure and discovered that it could not "see" my RAZR V3m. > I called Motorola Technical Support at the number in my Users Manual and > was allowed to download a version that did recognize the RAZR. So, I'll phone to Motorola, too.
cellular@motorola.net - 23 Feb 2008 23:53 GMT >> John Navas ha scritto: >> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >The program does not announce its version in any way that I can see. It >will not coexist with the software for another USB device that I have. On a standard install:
c:\program files\motorola phone tools
aboutn.ini
[Reserved] ProductName=Motorola Phone Tools ProductVersion=4.0.4a 11-22-2005 (051114006185) LegalCopyright=Copyright (c) Avanquest Software 2001-2005 FileVersion=
[MPhoneTools.exe] Title=Motorola Phone Tools
>I got it working long enough to enter my contacts through a real >keyboard which was all I really need the program for. > >I think, however, that next time I will buy a different brand of phone >from a different provider! Use bluetooth and bluetooth places if you can, it's simple and easy unless you have a crippled phone.
Richard B. Gilbert - 24 Feb 2008 02:18 GMT >>>John Navas ha scritto: >>> [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > Use bluetooth and bluetooth places if you can, it's simple and easy unless > you have a crippled phone. I bought my phone from Verizon Wireless. Naturally it's crippled! If I'd known then what I know now. . . .
I just dug out the aboutn.... I've got: ProductVersion=4.5.6a 8/17/2007 (070815010277)
Craig - 24 Feb 2008 19:38 GMT ...
> I bought my phone from Verizon Wireless. Naturally it's crippled! If > I'd known then what I know now. . . . Richard, et al;
Sorry to take this off-topic a bit but, when you say "If I'd known then what I know now..." How do you compare the relative "openness" of a carrier? Is there a site or matrix or whatever?
I use att/cingular but am always looking for a service that doesn't get in my way...
tia, -Craig
John Navas - 24 Feb 2008 20:08 GMT >... >> I bought my phone from Verizon Wireless. Naturally it's crippled! If [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >I use att/cingular but am always looking for a service that doesn't get >in my way... Stick with a GSM carrier (AT&T or T-Mobile) and use an unlocked generic handset.
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Craig - 24 Feb 2008 20:34 GMT >> ... >>> I bought my phone from Verizon Wireless. Naturally it's crippled! If [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Stick with a GSM carrier (AT&T or T-Mobile) and use an unlocked generic > handset. Thanks for the recommendation, John.
But I'm trying to understand how "crippled" & its opposite are being defined or measured. This way, I can assess things for myself. It's one of those 'give a man a fish' vs 'teach a man to fish' things.
tia, -Craig
XS11E - 24 Feb 2008 21:53 GMT > But I'm trying to understand how "crippled" & its opposite are > being defined or measured. "Crippled" is pretty meaningless, it means that Verizon sets their phones so that you must use their services in order to transfer pictures, ringtones, files, etc. to/from your phone.
It's very easy to modify a Motorola phone (have no experience with other brands but I think some will and some won't?) so that it will do these things directly w/o using Verizon's services.
NOTE: Unlike what some people will tell you: 1. it's easy for anyone who can read and follow instructions.* 2. it won't wreck your phone IF you can read, understand and follow directions. 3. it won't affect your warranty, you can always restore the phone as it was before modification if need be**
However, the so called "crippling" give some folks something to whine about so I think it's essential that Verizon continue doing so! I'd hate to see (name deleted) with nothing to whine about.... ;-)
* I can do it so I have to believe anyone can! ;-)
**FWIW, I had my V3m replaced w/o restoring it, I had a problem and didn't want to bother putting it back as it was so I took a chance, the tech at the store just handed me a new phone and activated it. Totally off topic but... she was a VERY attractive young female, I really didn't expect that!
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Richard B. Gilbert - 24 Feb 2008 22:05 GMT >>> ... >>> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > tia, > -Craig "Crippled" means that a feature normally built into the phone, such as the ability to transfer pictures from your phone to your computer over a USB cable, has been disabled. My RAZR V3m, as manufactured, can ring and vibrate simultaneously but this, too, has been disabled.
You can get "hacking" software, and use it to do something called a "seem edit" that will reenable the disabled feature(s) but doing so will void your warranty! Basically you just flip a bit in the phone's memory to turn things off or on.
I don't want this stuff badly enough to void my warranty. I also don't want it badly enough to pay Verizon for the privilege of transferring data from my phone to my computer using their network. The ability to transmit pictures over their network to a friend's e-Mail is something I might use someday if I was away from home and took a picture that I wanted to send to somebody but I want no part of a service provider that cripples my phone so that is my ONLY option.
XS11E - 25 Feb 2008 16:16 GMT > You can get "hacking" software, and use it to do something called > a "seem edit" that will reenable the disabled feature(s) but doing > so will void your warranty! Another untruth from the juvenile whiner.
> I don't want this stuff badly enough to void my warranty. It's been explained to you that it needn't void your warranty but you persist in your pathetic snivelling.
> I want no part of a service provider that cripples my phone so > that is my ONLY option. It's not your only option, another lie. And, as has also been explained, your phone isn't crippled, it works EXACTLY as it should. Because it doesn't work as you want it to does not mean it's crippled.
Give it a rest, you've worn out your welcome here and become a mere joke.
You might find another newsgroup that would enjoy your infantile mewlings but somehow I doubt it.
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Richard B. Gilbert - 25 Feb 2008 16:33 GMT >>You can get "hacking" software, and use it to do something called >>a "seem edit" that will reenable the disabled feature(s) but doing [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > You might find another newsgroup that would enjoy your infantile > mewlings but somehow I doubt it. *plonk*
XS11E - 25 Feb 2008 18:23 GMT [posted and mailed]
> *plonk* You really are pathetic.
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Larry - 25 Feb 2008 16:45 GMT >> I want no part of a service provider that cripples my phone so >> that is my ONLY option. > > It's not your only option, another lie. And, as has also been > explained, your phone isn't crippled, it works EXACTLY as it should. > Because it doesn't work as you want it to does not mean it's crippled. He's not the bullshit artist. YOU are.
The phones are crippled by companies like Verizon, the worst. Any fool, even you, can see the difference between a Z6m on Alltel that isn't crippled and a Z6tv on Verizon that's missing most usable features just to sell them something on their SELLphones.
What bullshit to say otherwise.....too funny.
Hang on a second until I get my helmet fastened before you start flailing away at me, too.....with more company bullshit.
Richard B. Gilbert - 24 Feb 2008 21:47 GMT > ... > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > tia, > -Craig My experience is pretty limited! My first cell phone was a Motorola. I think the model was "Micro Tac". It looked like an anemic brick! It weighed almost as much as a brick too. The battery pack was bigger than the rest of the phone. I bought it from Bell Atlantic Mobile which later became, or was acquired by, Verizon Wireless; don't know the details and don't really care.
My second phone was a StarTac ST7868W which I bought ca. 2001. I bought two, one for my wife, and carried it until last December when I noticed that the battery was no longer holding a charge well. I went out and bought two RAZR V3m phones from Verizon Wireless.
My first two phones were phones and nothing more. The RAZR was the first to offer an inexpensive and easy interface to a computer. I think the ST78968W could interface to a computer but the software and data cable were expensive ($100) and I had already entered my contacts names and phone numbers the hard way, via the phone's keypad.
When I got the RAZR, I wanted the phone to be a good one and I have no complaints about the phone part. I didn't need, or want, to download and play music or video. I didn't really need a camera either. I did want the ability to enter my contact's names and phone numbers using a real keyboard; pressing the "ABC" key three times to get a "C" is pretty kludgy! It's also slow and clumsy; I can type thirty or forty words per minute on a computer keyboard or various antique devices such as card punches, or an IBM Selectric typewriter.
None of my earlier phones had anything that Verizon might have crippled to their profit so it never occured to me that they would sell me a crippled phone.
I understand that other providers do not cripple the phones that they sell; crippling the product seems to be Verizon invention.
Next time I will talk to Cingular first; they have a kiosk in the local shopping mall. It will probably be three to five years from now if I live that long.
XS11E - 24 Feb 2008 21:56 GMT > None of my earlier phones had anything that Verizon might have > crippled to their profit so it never occured to me that they would > sell me a crippled phone. It isn't crippled, it will do anything any other phone will do. It requires you to use Verizon's services or to modify it.
You've been told how to modify it if you want to, you've been told it can be restored so that your warranty will not be affected so please STOP YOUR DAMN WHINING!
Thank you.
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Richard B. Gilbert - 24 Feb 2008 22:15 GMT >>None of my earlier phones had anything that Verizon might have >>crippled to their profit so it never occured to me that they would [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Thank you. I'm ignoring you!
Richard B. Gilbert - 24 Feb 2008 22:42 GMT >>>John Navas ha scritto: >>> [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > Use bluetooth and bluetooth places if you can, it's simple and easy unless > you have a crippled phone. Thanks! I've got: ProductVersion=4.5.6a 8/17/2007 (070815010277)
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