On Jul 22, 3:22 pm, "BruceR" <bruc...@SPAMwhoever.com> wrote:

that adapter, described on the Motorola pages and accompanying the
phone for free, is only for the phone earpiece, mike with one earbud,
and doesn't carry the music player audio at all, as I said several
days ago.
if you fire up the music player with that adapter plugged in, even if
it has a pair of earbuds plugged in, the music comes out the bitty
widdle phone speaker, just as if the adapter is not plugged  in. this
is not what i had in mind, and why i was annoyed when that's what i
received when i ordered what was described as what you are describing
and not what the official Motorola gadget was described as. hey, you
don't work for the company i bought it from, writing webpage ad copy,
do you?

You're right, I referred you to the wrong one. The one you want looks
the same but is different. You can plug any standard 3.5mm headphones
into the adapter OR you can plug in a patch cord and connect to a
receiver or many car decks.
See this, it is different and is what you need:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Motorola-OEM-3-5mm-Headset-Adaptor-For-RAZR-V3-K1-K1m_W0QQit
emZ120286005478QQihZ002QQcategoryZ20336QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Every carrier can load his own ideas and spam into the phones they sell.  
The basic hardware is common, the boot OS is common, the firmware loaded
is company specific, even if you get it from Moto.

Company specific, already loaded, software, like Vcast on Verizon or
Celltop on Alltel is part of that firmware load.....along with deleting
whole sections of code that do things like COPY files from the SD card
to internal memory -or- make an MP3 into a ringtone -or- take your
pictures DIRECTLY to the SD card so you don't trash what little internal
memory is available when you have a 2GB microSD installed but aren't
allowed to use it because the carrier's trying to force you to use his
shitty picture email service at 50c a pop.

The firmware isn't "locked".  The firmware features code has been
REMOVED to make way for more company crapware.

Case in point as we have the same hardware phones....

Start on the home screen and press the center black button of the arrow
keys.  What do you get?
Alltel users get the complete Motorola menu.  The selections are:
messages               contact list          recent calls
media gallery          music player          bluetooth menu
tools                  settings              phone status
Axcess Web (crapware)  Axcess Apps (crapware) Celltop (crapware)

Under Media Gallery the list is:
Camera      Pictures      Sounds
Video Cam   Videos        Music Player

In Pictures - OPTIONS, the menu lists:
SEND   picklist for IN MESSAGE or TO ONLINE ALBUM
APPLY AS piclist WALLPAPER, SCREEN SAVER, CONTACT
CREATE NEW picklist Picture or Picture Album
PRINT
MANAGE picklist DELETE or MOVE (between internal and card) or
  COPY (between one of the memories and the other or to bluetooth
FTP/OBEX/etc, if you have a pairing with a device that supports a file
transfer over Bluetooth, such as my Nokia N800 Linux tablet.)
MARK picklist CURRENT or ALL (to move or copy everything over)
CATEGORIES piclist ALL or No Category or [New Category]
ASSIGN TO CATEGORY (if you defined them..I don't.)

In SOUNDS - OPTIONS, the menu is:
SEND picklist IN MESSAGE or TO ONLINE ALBUM
USE BLUETOOTH (sends sound files to different place than music player)
(Bluetooth lets you pick an audio device (BT headset, car BT radio)
APPLY AS picklist RINGTONE (ONLY if you store the file on internal
memory otherwise it's blank)  (Any MP3 or wav file on internal memory
can be a ringtone...without paying Alltel or anyone a dime.)
CREATE NEW picklist PLAYLIST then it lets you pick the songs for the new
playlist and name it.
MANAGE picklist COPY or MOVE or DELETE (only Copy if you've used an
internal sound as a ringtone or alert tone or the like)
Picking Copy or Move brings up another picklist of the other memory from
where the file is now or Bluetooth (again if paired with a BT device
that transfers files (FTP/OBEX/etc.)
MARK/CATEGORIES/ASSIGN TO CATEGORIES works like Picture
STORAGE DEVICES picklist INTERNAL or SD CARD or the file system on your
BT CONNECTED external device that's online.  If I select BT with the
tablet connected, I get a list of the tablet's two SDHC 16GB SDHC cards
and internal memory of the tablet.  When I pick one of those, it lists
the directory structure inside the card.  I can mark files on the
tablet's music directories and tell the Z6m to COPY or MOVE them to one
of its memories, and the tablet will send them over the BT
link...eventually...(c;
FREE SPACE lists freespace on all devices, including the memories on the
BT connected Linux tablet if connected, usually with bad news of full
cards...(c;
PROPERTIES (after selecting a sound file) lists the ID3 tag stuff, if it
finds it.
SOUND SETUP picklist only AUTO REPEAT (on or off)

Music player is separate from Sounds.  It's made for playing, Sounds is
made for handling but can play, sortof, too.

Video works like Pictures...same menus.

Video player acts like the Still Camera - both let you store directly to
the microSD card saving internal memory.

I compared the demo Z6tv model at the Verizon kiosk and the black button
brought up Vcast trying to sell me something.....Does it have a menu?  I
didn't have time to try to find them as they wanted me out of there with
my silly questions about 'how do I make any MP3 file a ringtone?'

See any difference from Verizon's same features?  Firmware...

A complete unlock and reflash of the firmware from one company's to another
would qualify.  Hmm...let's define it as any upgrade to firmware that can
leave it a useless brick you can't access....a cellphone trait to be sure!

It's not hard to make any cellphone into a useless paperweight.  Ask those
guys on howardforums!  Hacking always makes a few bricks...(c;