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NEXTEL : Can you hear me now?
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KeithR - 09 Aug 2003 17:34 GMT http://www.americasnetwork.com/americasnetwork/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=66041
Bye bye Nextel!
HAHAHAHHAH
Scott Stephenson - 09 Aug 2003 18:25 GMT Don't see anything there that Nextel doesn't already offer, and I'm sure they offer it with no letency issues.
http://www.americasnetwork.com/americasnetwork/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=66041
> Bye bye Nextel! > > HAHAHAHHAH Ralph E. Decker - 10 Aug 2003 03:12 GMT Issue will be cost...Nextel is high priced with poor national coverage compared to Verizon/ATT/etc..
Hopefully this move will force Nextel to get cost competitive on service and handset prices.
> Don't see anything there that Nextel doesn't already offer, and I'm sure > they offer it with no letency issues. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> >> HAHAHAHHAH CCCC1 1CCCC - 09 Aug 2003 20:23 GMT Dream on......
"KeithR" <KeithjhYY@hotmail.com> wrote in article <9o9Za.14406$_R5.2844854@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>:
> http://www.americasnetwork.com/americasnetwork/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=66041 > > Bye bye Nextel! > > HAHAHAHHAH BigFatWadd - 10 Aug 2003 02:55 GMT CRUSH!
Can you here me now?
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
http://www.americasnetwork.com/americasnetwork/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=66041
> Bye bye Nextel! > > HAHAHAHHAH BigFatWadd - 10 Aug 2003 03:03 GMT CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW, MOTHERFU**ER?
HAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHA
Good by to Nextel Verizon will kill them with coverage and price
CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?
HAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAh An dthey have 1X towers and specs up to easilly convert!
They planned ahead,,
CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?
HAhahahahhahahahahhahah
Jason McGehee - 10 Aug 2003 20:23 GMT I still believe that that Verizon or another big player will purchase Nextel and overtime abandon the iDen system and migrate all the customers to another systems. Who ever enters the direct connect market will have one hell of a time to compete and draw customers away from the huge Nextel based. After all, Nextel, regardless of the quality of service, has been doing this for about 10 years now. It would be a wise move to purchase these customers rather then complete to win them.
Jason
Stevie - 11 Aug 2003 00:46 GMT Its not about DRAWING NEXTEL's customers. It's about the future of new customers, steering THE NEW CUSTOMERS to Verizon.
That, my firend, is where the money is, FUTURE CUSTOMERS
Not Nextel's installed base
Stevie
> I still believe that that Verizon or another big player will purchase Nextel > and overtime abandon the iDen system and migrate all the customers to [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Jason wirelessjuan - 11 Aug 2003 03:57 GMT Rumor has it and this is from someone I know who works for Verizon their plan will be $59.99 per month for only 400 cell and unlimited instant chat NO night & weekend mins.
Not really going to force the price down or really an appealing plan. I'll take my Free Incoming 400 plan plus UNLIMITED Night & Weekends & UNLIMITED Direct Connect and UNLIMITED Nextel Online for $59.99per month.
> Its not about DRAWING NEXTEL's customers. It's about the future of new > customers, steering THE NEW CUSTOMERS to Verizon. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > > > Jason Fast Jackie Busa - 14 Aug 2003 04:50 GMT And I will keep my unlimited netel online/unlimited N&W/ 1100 antime cell minutes and unlimited direct connect for $69 a month
> Rumor has it and this is from someone I know who works for Verizon their > plan will be $59.99 per month for only 400 cell and unlimited instant chat [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > > > > > Jason alahater - 19 Aug 2003 10:18 GMT This message is totally OT. I think the mod of this group or any mods at ISP's carrying or especially rr.com block this user for violation of the NG. Take your trolling elsewhere.
> And I will keep my unlimited netel online/unlimited N&W/ 1100 antime cell > minutes and unlimited direct connect for $69 a month [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > > > > > > > Jason WindsorFox[SS] - 19 Aug 2003 12:21 GMT > This message is totally OT. I think the mod of this group or any mods > at ISP's carrying or especially rr.com block this user for violation > of the NG. > Take your trolling elsewhere. Moderator? LOL, you are not REAL familiar with Usenet are you....
plaguebeast - 19 Aug 2003 15:30 GMT I AM THE MODERATOR, FEAR ME !!!
this group needs an Eggbert.
> > This message is totally OT. I think the mod of this group or any mods > > at ISP's carrying or especially rr.com block this user for violation > > of the NG. > > Take your trolling elsewhere. > > Moderator? LOL, you are not REAL familiar with Usenet are you.... All the News - 11 Aug 2003 21:10 GMT http://www.americasnetwork.com/americasnetwork/article/articleDetail.jsp?id= 66041
> Bye bye Nextel! > > HAHAHAHHAH I find it ... odd ... that people get so worked up about wanting to see a company fail. I mean I certainly have my allegences to certain companies... I like Ford over Chevy. Prefer McD's to Burger King. I like Moutain Dew more than Mello Yellow. I think HP's are better than Compaq --- D'oh!, okay bad example there... :)
Anyway, my point is that while I like some items over other, I don't want those others to FAIL. Heck if all the Burger Kings closed up shop the lines at my McDonalds would only get bigger.
Here Nextel *created* a new service, built it up from scratch, developed it and promoted it. Now others are pickup up on the idea and trying to do it themselves...fine. Some compitition might be good for the market.
But some of your are acting like sharks smelling blood... longing for, thirsting for the failure of Nextel. It's like your life just won't be complete until you see Nextel in ruins. I just don't understand it.
Chris
Jenniffer - 12 Aug 2003 02:01 GMT Its the American way
See all those Jap vehicles on the roads?
The hell with Ford/GMC and Chrysler!
Buy Jap where cart profits GO BACK TO JAPAN to support their economy!
> I find it ... odd ... that people get so worked up about wanting to > see a company fail. I mean I certainly have my allegences to [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Chris DEE B - 12 Aug 2003 03:56 GMT Its funny with this racist remark. U must not have a clue how many jobs they(Japan Auto Companys) bring over. Whats the definition of being an American? Ur ancestors where are they from? Unless their indian. Don't proclaim ownership of a land that was already discovered. This should be titled *what stupid things people say*
"Jenniffer" <JNF@aoki.com> wrote in article <70XZa.44821$_R5.13904180@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>:
> Its the American way > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > > > Chris Jenniffer - 13 Aug 2003 13:58 GMT ARE you kidding with you non economic views or what? Bring jobs over? Are you to say that if the imports were not here, the USA would HAVE A AUTOMOBILE SHORTAGE?
PROFITS FROM IMPORTS LEAVE THIS COUNTRY AND EXPORT BACK TO THE COMPANY OF ORIGIN, PERIOD.
HEY, have you checked you investments the past three years? Keep supporting the Jap automakers!
Hey daddy, why to do support other countries and you don't want to support the country you live in?
Why daddy, why?
Only racist remark here was your BUYING DECISIONS, REFUSING TO SUPPORT THE COUNTRY YOU LIVE IN!
> Its funny with this racist remark. U must not have a clue how many jobs > they(Japan Auto Companys) bring over. Whats the definition of being an [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups] All the News - 12 Aug 2003 14:03 GMT > Its the American way > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Buy Jap where cart profits GO BACK TO JAPAN to support their economy! Well, that's not actually what I was refering too... I'm not saying that we need to be loyal to any particular company or buy their products just because they are an American company.
I was talking about people who seem to wish ill on a company for whatever reason...
Chris
Bob - 12 Aug 2003 21:13 GMT what a completely racist and factually incorrect statement.
Lets see- some Toyota's are made in America- My Chevy Tracker- A Jap- as you say-car made in Canada with an American nameplate.
Very sad
> Its the American way > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Buy Jap where cart profits GO BACK TO JAPAN to support their economy! Jenniffer - 13 Aug 2003 14:00 GMT What so sad is that you seem to have no economic education. WHERE DO THE PROFITS OF THESE US SALES GO????
ANY IDEA, Einstein?
> what a completely racist and factually incorrect statement. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > > > Buy Jap where cart profits GO BACK TO JAPAN to support their economy! Scott Stephenson - 13 Aug 2003 16:48 GMT Well, I thought I had seen just about everything in this NG, but this latest rant has finally taken the cake. Besides the impracticality and absurdness of the very offensive and isolationist mentality mentioned below (somebody better check the "Made In...."stickers on most of their electronics and appliances), it just continues a recurring theme in this NG- people bitching about Nextel either because of their pricing, or because they don't make phones that would fit inside a thimble. And nowhere in this thread do I see any FACTS about Nextel. So, let's see if the facts have any place here:
1. Nextel- first to provide a handsfree speakerphone. 2. Nextel- first to provide Java applications via wireless network. 3. Nextel- first to provide packet data transmission over a wireless network. 4. Nextel- first to offer instantaneous push-to-talk functionality. 5. Nextel- first to offer the previously mentioned push-to-talk as a network-wide feature.
Now, you will notice that there are a few things not on this list. Nextel, for example, was not the first provider to offer the ability to take a picture of Poopsie coughing up a hair ball and sending the pic to Aunt Beulah. The fact is (and one that is commonly forgotten here) is that we are talking about a PHONE here. The day may come when we can all carry an all-in-one communications device, but the real fact is THAT TIME HAS NOT ARRIVED YET. Until then, every provider is going to put out vastly inferior products in an attempt to make you believe that the functionality is something you can't live without. That is, every provider except Nextel- it appears that they only provide new technology after they have worked out most of the bugs, and provide it in a phone that doesn't fall apart when you look at it the wrong way. Can Verizon, Sprint or AT&T make the same claim?
A few more facts about Nextel before wrapping up:
1. Nextel's business model is centered around the fact that they are primarily a provider of services for Business and Government customers (a fact that they repeat constantly). This model seems to be working, because they appear to be one of the few cellular providers to actually make money.
2. In spite of this model, Nextel has been rated with providing the highest Customer Service of all cellular providers two years in a row by J.D Edwards. My feeling is that the whiners in this NG are actually preventing the rest of us from receiving even better service, as they are probably the ones calling in to rant and rave about things that can not be addressed by Customer Care ("I want you to put a cell tower in my backyard"). And this is no exaggeration- they get these kinds of calls all of the time.
Two last thoughts, and then I'll let the flaming begin- earlier in this thread, an analogy was made to the Auto industry. Typically, those cars with the most bells and whistles are generally the least reliable and most expensive to repair. And if a certain model is too expensive on the showroom floor, you always have the option of letting someone else drive it for a while, and then buy it used. Do these philosophies also apply to cell phones?
Finally, let's take a look at the home nationality of the big cell phone manufacturers. Motorola, Nextel's almost exclusive provider of phones, is an American corporation. And everybody else buys from: Ericsson Nokia Samsung Sony
Anybody see a pattern here? This is not an acceptance of the narrow Nationalist view put forth earlier in this thread, but just an observation. And Jenniffer, while you have the right to say whatever you want, that right does not mean that anyone has to read it. You are officially the first person to be ignored by this reader in this NG. Congratulations. And let the flaming begin.
> What so sad is that you seem to have no economic education. > WHERE DO THE PROFITS OF THESE US SALES GO???? [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > > > > > Buy Jap where cart profits GO BACK TO JAPAN to support their economy! Cox SMTP west - 18 Aug 2003 18:28 GMT Yes, I agree with the Nextel facts on this, and I had a govt account for nextel, which also line priority for connections... been great. I have had Nextel since 1990.
> Well, I thought I had seen just about everything in this NG, but this latest > rant has finally taken the cake. Besides the impracticality and absurdness [quoted text clipped - 83 lines] > > > > > > > > Buy Jap where cart profits GO BACK TO JAPAN to support their economy! Jay R. Ashworth - 15 Aug 2003 18:24 GMT Stanley settled back into the couch, and All the News <boermac@river.it.gvsu.edu> said to him:
> But some of your are acting like sharks smelling blood... longing > for, thirsting for the failure of Nextel. It's like your life just > won't be complete until you see Nextel in ruins. I just don't > understand it. It's mostly because Nextel, like most cellular carriers, has *really crappy* service, both technical and customer...
and Nextel, in particular, has less excuse than most.
Non-24-hour customer service, for a carrier that positions themselves *specifically* to business customers. Furrfu.
Cheers, -- jra
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George Blanas - 13 Aug 2003 15:04 GMT Nextel will not be going out of business because other carriers will have their own versions of PTT. It will however give consumers another option. Regarding loyalty to this country, so called american corp. want to "wave the flag" after incidents like 9/11 to show their loyalty and support for this nation while at the same time they are shifting more and more production to other countries to increase their profit which is all they care about. You can bet that companies are chomping at the bit to set up over in Iraq. Everyone is worried about supporting terrorism, we have been supporting communism for decades with all the goods we buy that are made in China, etc. If you only buy truly american made products, you will have very little to choose from.
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"KeithR" <KeithjhYY@hotmail.com> wrote in article <9o9Za.14406$_R5.2844854@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>:
> http://www.americasnetwork.com/americasnetwork/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=66041 > > Bye bye Nextel! > > HAHAHAHHAH Dan W. - 13 Aug 2003 16:24 GMT Sprint attempted to compete in the SMS front with their "Short Mail". Something tells me their version of PTT will be equally as dissapointing.
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"KeithR" <KeithjhYY@hotmail.com> wrote in article <9o9Za.14406$_R5.2844854@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>:
> http://www.americasnetwork.com/americasnetwork/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=66041 > > Bye bye Nextel! > > HAHAHAHHAH
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