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NEXTEL : Can you hear me now?

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KeithR - 09 Aug 2003 17:34 GMT
http://www.americasnetwork.com/americasnetwork/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=66041

Bye bye Nextel!

HAHAHAHHAH
Scott Stephenson - 09 Aug 2003 18:25 GMT
Don't see anything there that Nextel doesn't already offer, and I'm sure
they offer it with no letency issues.

http://www.americasnetwork.com/americasnetwork/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=66041

> Bye bye Nextel!
>
> HAHAHAHHAH
Ralph E. Decker - 10 Aug 2003 03:12 GMT
Issue will be cost...Nextel is high priced with poor national coverage
compared to Verizon/ATT/etc..

Hopefully this move will force Nextel to  get cost competitive on service
and handset prices.

> Don't see anything there that Nextel doesn't already offer, and I'm sure
> they offer it with no letency issues.
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>> HAHAHAHHAH
CCCC1 1CCCC - 09 Aug 2003 20:23 GMT
Dream on......

"KeithR" <KeithjhYY@hotmail.com> wrote in article
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> http://www.americasnetwork.com/americasnetwork/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=66041
>
> Bye bye Nextel!
>
> HAHAHAHHAH
BigFatWadd - 10 Aug 2003 02:55 GMT
CRUSH!

Can you here me now?

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

http://www.americasnetwork.com/americasnetwork/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=66041

> Bye bye Nextel!
>
> HAHAHAHHAH
BigFatWadd - 10 Aug 2003 03:03 GMT
CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW,  MOTHERFU**ER?

HAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHA

Good by to Nextel
Verizon will kill them with coverage and price

CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?

HAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAh
An dthey have 1X towers and specs up to easilly convert!

They planned ahead,,

CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?

HAhahahahhahahahahhahah
Jason McGehee - 10 Aug 2003 20:23 GMT
I still believe that that Verizon or another big player will purchase Nextel
and overtime abandon the iDen system and migrate all the customers to
another systems.  Who ever enters the direct connect market will have one
hell of a time to compete and draw customers away from the huge Nextel
based.  After all, Nextel, regardless of the quality of service, has been
doing this for about 10 years now.  It would be a wise move to purchase
these customers rather then complete to win them.

Jason
Stevie - 11 Aug 2003 00:46 GMT
Its not about DRAWING NEXTEL's customers.  It's about the future of new
customers, steering THE NEW CUSTOMERS to Verizon.

That, my firend, is where the money is, FUTURE CUSTOMERS

Not Nextel's installed base

Stevie

> I still believe that that Verizon or another big player will purchase Nextel
> and overtime abandon the iDen system and migrate all the customers to
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> Jason
wirelessjuan - 11 Aug 2003 03:57 GMT
Rumor has it and this is from someone I know who works for Verizon their
plan will be $59.99 per month for only 400 cell and unlimited instant chat
NO night & weekend mins.

Not really going to force the price down or really an appealing plan.  I'll
take my Free Incoming 400 plan plus UNLIMITED Night & Weekends & UNLIMITED
Direct Connect and UNLIMITED Nextel Online for $59.99per month.

> Its not about DRAWING NEXTEL's customers.  It's about the future of new
> customers, steering THE NEW CUSTOMERS to Verizon.
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> >
> > Jason
Fast Jackie Busa - 14 Aug 2003 04:50 GMT
And I will keep my unlimited netel online/unlimited N&W/ 1100 antime cell
minutes and unlimited direct connect for $69 a month
> Rumor has it and this is from someone I know who works for Verizon their
> plan will be $59.99 per month for only 400 cell and unlimited instant chat
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> > >
> > > Jason
alahater - 19 Aug 2003 10:18 GMT
This message is totally OT.  I think the mod of this group or any mods
at ISP's carrying or especially rr.com block this user for violation
of the NG.
Take your trolling elsewhere.

> And I will keep my unlimited netel online/unlimited N&W/ 1100 antime cell
> minutes and unlimited direct connect for $69 a month
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> > > >
> > > > Jason
WindsorFox[SS] - 19 Aug 2003 12:21 GMT
> This message is totally OT.  I think the mod of this group or any mods
> at ISP's carrying or especially rr.com block this user for violation
> of the NG.
> Take your trolling elsewhere.

  Moderator?  LOL, you are not REAL familiar with Usenet are you....
plaguebeast - 19 Aug 2003 15:30 GMT
I AM THE  MODERATOR, FEAR ME !!!

this group needs an Eggbert.

> > This message is totally OT.  I think the mod of this group or any mods
> > at ISP's carrying or especially rr.com block this user for violation
> > of the NG.
> > Take your trolling elsewhere.
>
>    Moderator?  LOL, you are not REAL familiar with Usenet are you....
All the News - 11 Aug 2003 21:10 GMT
http://www.americasnetwork.com/americasnetwork/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=
66041

> Bye bye Nextel!
>
> HAHAHAHHAH

I find it ... odd ... that people get so worked up about wanting to
see a company fail.  I mean I certainly have my allegences to
certain companies... I like Ford over Chevy.  Prefer McD's to
Burger King.  I like Moutain Dew more than Mello Yellow.
I think HP's are better than Compaq --- D'oh!, okay bad example
there... :)

Anyway, my point is that while I like some items over other, I
don't want those others to FAIL.  Heck if all the Burger Kings
closed up shop the lines at my McDonalds would only get
bigger.

Here Nextel *created* a new service, built it up from scratch,
developed it and promoted it.  Now others are pickup up on
the idea and trying to do it themselves...fine.  Some compitition
might be good for the market.

But some of your are acting like sharks smelling blood... longing
for, thirsting for the failure of Nextel.  It's like your life just
won't be complete until you see Nextel in ruins.  I just don't
understand it.

       Chris
Jenniffer - 12 Aug 2003 02:01 GMT
Its the American way

See all those Jap vehicles on the roads?

The hell with Ford/GMC and Chrysler!

Buy Jap where cart profits GO BACK TO JAPAN to support their economy!

> I find it ... odd ... that people get so worked up about wanting to
> see a company fail.  I mean I certainly have my allegences to
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>         Chris
DEE B - 12 Aug 2003 03:56 GMT
Its funny with this racist remark. U must not have a clue how many jobs
they(Japan Auto Companys) bring over.  Whats the definition of being an
American?   Ur ancestors where are they from?  Unless their indian.
Don't proclaim ownership of a land that was already discovered.  This
should be titled *what stupid things people say*

"Jenniffer" <JNF@aoki.com> wrote in article
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> Its the American way
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> >         Chris
Jenniffer - 13 Aug 2003 13:58 GMT
ARE you kidding with you non economic views or what?  Bring jobs over?  Are
you to say that if the imports were not here, the USA would HAVE A
AUTOMOBILE SHORTAGE?

PROFITS FROM IMPORTS LEAVE THIS COUNTRY AND EXPORT BACK TO THE COMPANY OF
ORIGIN, PERIOD.

HEY, have you checked you investments the past three years?  Keep supporting
the Jap automakers!

Hey daddy, why to do support other countries and you don't want to support
the country you live in?

Why daddy, why?

Only racist remark here was your BUYING DECISIONS, REFUSING TO SUPPORT THE
COUNTRY YOU LIVE IN!

> Its funny with this racist remark. U must not have a clue how many jobs
> they(Japan Auto Companys) bring over.  Whats the definition of being an
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All the News - 12 Aug 2003 14:03 GMT
> Its the American way
>
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>
> Buy Jap where cart profits GO BACK TO JAPAN to support their economy!

Well, that's not actually what I was refering too... I'm not saying
that we need to be loyal to any particular company or buy their
products just because they are an American company.

I was talking about people who seem to wish ill on a company
for whatever reason...

       Chris
Bob - 12 Aug 2003 21:13 GMT
what a completely racist and factually incorrect statement.

Lets see- some Toyota's are made in America- My Chevy Tracker- A Jap- as you
say-car made in Canada with an American nameplate.

Very sad

> Its the American way
>
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> Buy Jap where cart profits GO BACK TO JAPAN to support their economy!
Jenniffer - 13 Aug 2003 14:00 GMT
What so sad is that you seem to have no economic education.
WHERE DO THE PROFITS OF THESE US SALES GO????

ANY IDEA, Einstein?

> what a completely racist and factually incorrect statement.
>
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> >
> > Buy Jap where cart profits GO BACK TO JAPAN to support their economy!
Scott Stephenson - 13 Aug 2003 16:48 GMT
Well, I thought I had seen just about everything in this NG, but this latest
rant has finally taken the cake.  Besides the impracticality and absurdness
of the very offensive and isolationist mentality mentioned below (somebody
better check the "Made In...."stickers on most of their electronics and
appliances), it just continues a recurring theme in this NG- people bitching
about Nextel either because of their pricing, or because they don't make
phones that would fit inside a thimble.  And nowhere in this thread do I see
any FACTS about Nextel.  So, let's see if the facts have any place here:

1.  Nextel- first to provide a handsfree speakerphone.
2.  Nextel- first to provide Java applications via wireless network.
3.  Nextel- first to provide packet data transmission over a wireless
network.
4.  Nextel- first to offer instantaneous push-to-talk functionality.
5.  Nextel- first to offer the previously mentioned push-to-talk as a
network-wide feature.

Now, you will notice that there are a few things not on this list.  Nextel,
for example, was not the first provider to offer the ability to take a
picture of Poopsie coughing up a hair ball and sending the pic to Aunt
Beulah.  The fact is (and one that is commonly forgotten here) is that we
are talking about a PHONE here.  The day may come when we can all carry an
all-in-one communications device, but the real fact is THAT TIME HAS NOT
ARRIVED YET.  Until then, every provider is going to put out vastly inferior
products in an attempt to make you believe that the functionality is
something you can't live without.  That is, every provider except Nextel- it
appears that they only provide new technology after they have worked out
most of the bugs, and provide it in a phone that doesn't fall apart when you
look at it the wrong way.  Can Verizon, Sprint or AT&T make the same claim?

A few more facts about Nextel before wrapping up:

1.  Nextel's business model is centered around the fact that they are
primarily a provider of services for Business and Government customers (a
fact that they repeat constantly).  This model seems to be working, because
they appear to be one of the few cellular providers to actually make money.

2.  In spite of this model, Nextel has been rated with providing the highest
Customer Service of all cellular providers two years in a row by J.D
Edwards.  My feeling is that the whiners in this NG are actually preventing
the rest of us from receiving even better service, as they are probably the
ones calling in to rant and rave about things that can not be addressed by
Customer Care ("I want you to put a cell tower in my backyard").  And this
is no exaggeration- they get these kinds of calls all of the time.

Two last thoughts, and then I'll let the flaming begin- earlier in this
thread, an analogy was made to the Auto industry.  Typically, those cars
with the most bells and whistles are generally the least reliable and most
expensive to repair. And if a certain model is too expensive on the showroom
floor, you always have the option of letting someone else drive it for a
while, and then buy it used.  Do these philosophies also apply to cell
phones?

Finally, let's take a look at the home nationality of the big cell phone
manufacturers.  Motorola, Nextel's almost exclusive provider of phones, is
an American corporation.  And everybody else buys from:
Ericsson
Nokia
Samsung
Sony

Anybody see a pattern here?  This is not an acceptance of the narrow
Nationalist view put forth earlier in this thread, but just an observation.
And Jenniffer, while you have the right to say whatever you want, that right
does not mean that anyone has to read it.  You are officially the first
person to be ignored by this reader in this NG.  Congratulations.  And let
the flaming begin.
> What so sad is that you seem to have no economic education.
> WHERE DO THE PROFITS OF THESE US SALES GO????
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> > >
> > > Buy Jap where cart profits GO BACK TO JAPAN to support their economy!
Cox SMTP west - 18 Aug 2003 18:28 GMT
Yes, I agree with the Nextel facts on this, and I had a govt account for
nextel, which also line priority for connections...  been great.  I have had
Nextel since 1990.
> Well, I thought I had seen just about everything in this NG, but this latest
> rant has finally taken the cake.  Besides the impracticality and absurdness
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> > > > Buy Jap where cart profits GO BACK TO JAPAN to support their economy!
Jay R. Ashworth - 15 Aug 2003 18:24 GMT
Stanley settled back into the couch, and
  All the News <boermac@river.it.gvsu.edu> said to him:
>  But some of your are acting like sharks smelling blood... longing
>  for, thirsting for the failure of Nextel.  It's like your life just
>  won't be complete until you see Nextel in ruins.  I just don't
>  understand it.

It's mostly because Nextel, like most cellular carriers, has *really
crappy* service, both technical and customer...

and Nextel, in particular, has less excuse than most.

Non-24-hour customer service, for a carrier that positions themselves
*specifically* to business customers.  Furrfu.

Cheers,
-- jra
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George Blanas - 13 Aug 2003 15:04 GMT
Nextel will not be going out of business because other carriers will
have their own versions of PTT.  It will however give consumers another
option.  Regarding loyalty to this country, so called american corp.
want to "wave the flag"  after incidents like 9/11 to show their loyalty
and support for this nation while at the same time they are shifting
more and more production to other countries to increase their profit
which is all they care about.  You can bet that companies are chomping
at the bit to set up over in Iraq.  Everyone is worried about supporting
terrorism, we have been supporting communism for decades with all the
goods we buy that are made in China, etc.  If you only buy truly
american made products, you will have very little to choose from.  

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Cut the cord, go wireless!

"KeithR" <KeithjhYY@hotmail.com> wrote in article
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> http://www.americasnetwork.com/americasnetwork/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=66041
>
> Bye bye Nextel!
>
> HAHAHAHHAH
Dan W. - 13 Aug 2003 16:24 GMT
Sprint attempted to compete in the SMS front with their "Short Mail".
Something tells me their version of PTT will be equally as
dissapointing.

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> http://www.americasnetwork.com/americasnetwork/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=66041
>
> Bye bye Nextel!
>
> HAHAHAHHAH
 
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