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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / Nextel / September 2003PTT Trade Marked?
According to an add in the New York Times for Nextel Push To Talk is Trade Marked. So VZW may wish to use something else. And this from a SATISFIED VZW user.  SignatureGandalfSC -- Scanned by Norton Anti-Virus And deemed herewith Virus Free >According to an add in the New York Times for >Nextel Push To Talk is Trade Marked. "Nextel Push to Talk" may very well be, but "Push to Talk" on it's own obviously isn't. >>According to an add in the New York Times for >>Nextel Push To Talk is Trade Marked. > > "Nextel Push to Talk" may very well be, but "Push to Talk" on it's own > obviously isn't. I would agree with this. It reminds me of the whole Al Franken/ Fox thing a few weeks ago. You have a hard time convincing the courts that a combination of frequently used words, or a commonly used phrase, can be trademarked. >>>According to an add in the New York Times for >>>Nextel Push To Talk is Trade Marked. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >a combination of frequently used words, or a commonly used phrase, can >be trademarked. Seems like a "fair and balanced" comment to me.:) > >According to an add in the New York Times for > >Nextel Push To Talk is Trade Marked. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > "Nextel Push to Talk" may very well be, but "Push to Talk" on it's own > obviously isn't. I should have put a comma after nextel, I think. I'll have to dig the paper out of the recycle bin and check it again. SignatureGandalfSC -- Scanned by Norton Anti-Virus And deemed herewith Virus Free >> >According to an add in the New York Times for >> >Nextel Push To Talk is Trade Marked. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >I'll have to dig the paper out of the recycle bin and >check it again. I presumed you meant to put a comma there, but my original statement still stands. I think they could trademark it as "Nextel Push to Talk", but as has been bashed around here for weeks already, the generic term "push to talk" by itself has been around for so long in general use, I don't see how anyone could trademark it. And if anyone could, it sure as hell wouldn't be Nextel. It was Tue, 09 Sep 2003 01:52:28 GMT, and "GandalfSC" <gandalf@rochester.rr.com> wrote in alt.cellular.verizon: | According to an add in the New York Times for | Nextel Push To Talk is Trade Marked. You believe advertising? | So VZW may wish to use something else. Nope. "Push to Talk" is not a registered trademark. Nextel has attempted this, failed before, and has still not reached registered status. JL > According to an add in the New York Times for > Nextel Push To Talk is Trade Marked. Hmmm. Think I'll apply for a patent on the wheelbarrow. -Paul- A satisfied Push-to-Talk user (including Motorola radio gear) since 1961. _______________________________ ?2003 by K5PF. No reproduction without specific permission of the author, except for brief quotations. For individual use only; commerical rights reserved. Not for resale. Previous editions obsolete. Printed versions should be shredded when no longer needed. > > According to an add in the New York Times for > > Nextel Push To Talk is Trade Marked. > > Hmmm. Think I'll apply for a patent on the wheelbarrow. OK, but don't even think about can opener and paper clip because I own them... > -Paul- > A satisfied Push-to-Talk user (including Motorola radio gear) since 1961. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Previous editions obsolete. Printed versions > should be shredded when no longer needed. > According to an add in the New York Times for > Nextel Push To Talk is Trade Marked. > > So VZW may wish to use something else. > > And this from a SATISFIED VZW user. Doesn't Nextel have Direct Connect service marked? I've never heard of Nextel's service referred to as Push To Talk. >> According to an add in the New York Times for >> Nextel Push To Talk is Trade Marked. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Doesn't Nextel have Direct Connect service marked? I've never heard of >Nextel's service referred to as Push To Talk. Damned good point. One gold star for you. >> According to an add in the New York Times for >> Nextel Push To Talk is Trade Marked. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Doesn't Nextel have Direct Connect service marked? I've never heard of > Nextel's service referred to as Push To Talk. They have been trying to trademark 'Push To Talk' too. I don't think they'll have much luck, but no harm in trying. I think VZW legal probably did a little homework before using "push to talk" as a catch phrase don't ya think? MB Scott Stephenson <scott.stephenson@adelphia.net> wrote in article <_Ev7b.22996$2Y6.9227374@news2.news.adelphia.net>: > >> According to an add in the New York Times for > >> Nextel Push To Talk is Trade Marked. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > They have been trying to trademark 'Push To Talk' too. I don't think > they'll have much luck, but no harm in trying. Scott Stephenson <scott.stephenson@adelphia.net> wrote in article <_Ev7b.22996$2Y6.9227374@news2.news.adelphia.net>: > >> According to an add in the New York Times for > >> Nextel Push To Talk is Trade Marked. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > They have been trying to trademark 'Push To Talk' too. I don't think > they'll have much luck, but no harm in trying. NEXTEL did trademark PTT and Push-To-Talk even though the term is and has been utilized thruout radio service manuals and common language in the radio industry since the 1930's There is a catch though, NEXTEL only received a "secondary trademark" and not a primary, which is probably why Verizon has been utilizing the term and NEXTEL is currently suing them. I'll try to find the URL and post it later as it has been posted on the NEXTEL1 group on Yahoo numerous times. Mark It was Wed, 10 Sep 2003 09:37:45 -0000, and askme@askme.com (Mark F) wrote in alt.cellular.verizon: | NEXTEL did trademark PTT and Push-To-Talk even though the | term is and has been utilized thruout radio service manuals | and common language in the radio industry since the 1930's Nextel's latest attempt to trademark "Push to Talk" was only early this year. They tried to trademark it last year as well but were REJECTED. BTW: Their current "trademark" definition of PTT doesn't even mention "walkie-talkie" service! At this point the process is on hold, awaiting the USPTO to publish the trademark for opposition. It's bound to draw fire from Verizon Wireless, Sprint, Motorola and many more. | I'll try to find the URL and post it later as it has been | posted on the NEXTEL1 group on Yahoo numerous times. Hopefully somewhere at the source, USPTO.GOV . Media stories often contain lies and misinformation when it comes to this issue. JL hey thought this might be of interest to yall....this is the press release that nextell put out about its trademark.\ RESTON, Va.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--June 20, 2003--Nextel(R) Communications, Inc. (NASDAQ:NXTL) today announced that the United States Patent and Trademark Office approved the registration of its trademark for its Push To Talk(TM) service. This is the culmination of an application process for Push To Talk(TM) that began in January 2002. Push To Talk(TM) and its sister mark, PTT(R), have for years denoted Nextel's signature service, Nextel Direct Connect(R), an incredibly powerful, easy to use, long-range digital walkie-talkie feature. Nextel has pioneered Push To Talk(TM) capabilities for more than ten years. With Direct Connect(TM), Nextel customers simply use the Push To Talk(TM) button located on the side of every Nextel phone for instant communication with colleagues, friends and family members. Every one of the more than 11.1 million wireless devices on the Nextel National Network - including Nextel's full suite of handsets from Motorola as well as the Blackberry 6510(TM) for Nextel - features the Push To Talk(TM) button enabling Direct Connect(TM) instant communications. Currently, more than 90 percent of Nextel customers use Direct Connect(TM) monthly, completing 170 million Direct Connect(TM) calls each day, for a total of more than 62 billion conversations in 2002. On June 2nd, Nextel began rolling out Nationwide Direct Connect(TM), the first and only wireless walkie-talkie service to allow users instant communications across the country. When the launch of Nationwide Direct Connect(TM) is complete in August, instant walkie-talkie communications will have a span of more than 5,000 miles. "These trademarks reflect Nextel's innovative approach to changing the way people communicate in business and personal life," said Mark Schweitzer, Senior Vice President of Marketing at Nextel. "For ten years, Direct Connect(TM) has been the industry standard for instant contact. Now, Nextel has brought the service to a new level by enabling customers to use Nextel's Push To Talk(TM) service across all America in less than a second with the push of a button. Now, that's real Push Power(TM)." the link for it is here http://www.corporate-ir.net/ireye/ir_site.zhtml?ticker=NXTL&script=410&layout=-6 &item_id=424319 hope this is of inerest! thanks stephen askme@askme.com (Mark F) wrote in article <vlts792pp27e43@corp.supernews.com>: > Scott Stephenson <scott.stephenson@adelphia.net> wrote in article > <_Ev7b.22996$2Y6.9227374@news2.news.adelphia.net>: [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > [posted via phonescoop.com] It was Thu, 11 Sep 2003 06:37:01 -0000, and Should we circle all the lies or just the obvious ones? | RESTON, Va.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--June 20, 2003--Nextel(R) Communications, Nextel *IS* a registered trademark. Appropriate use of the (R). (Have to have one positive comment ...) But DID YOU KNOW that "Nextel" is also a REGISTERED trademark for: "heat diffusion collars and discs for use in furnaces" (Among other descriptions for the same material.) | Inc. (NASDAQ:NXTL) today announced that the United States Patent | and Trademark Office approved the registration of its trademark | for its Push To Talk(TM) service. Fair use of the (TM), which isn't the same as (R). But what is "Push to Talk" a trademark FOR? "Hardware and software for use in communications networks, namely, Internet protocol and telecommunications network transmitters, receivers, converters, and routers which allow the user to send voice, data, pictures, music and video over wireless networks" Nope, no walkie talkies there! http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=78103382 | This is the culmination of an application process for Push To | Talk(TM) that began in January 2002. Push To Talk(TM) and its | sister mark, PTT(R), have for years denoted Nextel's signature | service, A *LIE*. According to Nextel's own filing, the "Push to Talk" mark has only been used since 4-18-2003. Unless Nextel lied to the USPTO ... Oh, and PTT(R)? Which registered trademark? 2325401? That's "Chadmoore Wireless Group, Inc." since 2000. 1603156? That's "NATIONAL EVALUATION SYSTEMS, INC." for tests. 1448269? That's "STOCKHOLDER SYSTEMS, INC." for home banking. Oh, they are refering to their mark filed January 2002! "For YEARS" denoting Nextel's service? Nahhh. | Nextel Direct Connect(R), an incredibly powerful, easy to use, | long-range digital walkie-talkie feature. That one is registered! 2236098 for "telecommunication services, namely, two-way radio communications" | ... Direct Connect(TM) ... Without the word NEXTEL it isn't registered. Yep. Nothing stopping "Verizon Direct Connect" except intelegence. :) | hope this is of inerest! Yeah, it just shows how low Nextel will stoop to protect their a.s. JL >But what is > "Push to Talk" a trademark FOR? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Nope, no walkie talkies there! Very interesting compilation, Justa! Thanks for doing the research. I am confused about all this commotion over the term PTT. I went to nextel.com and did not find the works "Push To Talk" anywhere on the web site. Instead, I found references to Walkie Talkies and Direct Connect. [See samples below.] So does NEXTEL? even use this controversial term, itself? Or is this simply USENET scuttlebutt? -Paul- ____________________ *Direct ConnectT service Life's better when you have the cell phone with a coast-to-coast walkie-talkie. Push the button and instantly get right through - no wait, no phone tag, no hassle. Now that's a walkie-talkie! >> *Nextel Online? wireless Web services You not only get clear, crisp cell phone and Direct ConnectT calls, you can also get access to the Web - right on your Nextel phone. >>But what is >> "Push to Talk" a trademark FOR? [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >So does NEXTEL® even use this controversial term, itself? Or is this simply >USENET scuttlebutt? Nextel has trademarked "Direct Connect" whereas PTT is a more descriptive term on what the feature does. They use it here too: http://www.nextel.com/services/directconnect/ptt_tips.shtml > >>But what is > >> "Push to Talk" a trademark FOR? [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > > >So does NEXTEL? even use this controversial term, itself? Or is this simply > >USENET scuttlebutt? > > Nextel has trademarked "Direct Connect" whereas PTT is a more descriptive term > on what the feature does. It is funny but, PTT was on thirty year old Motorola Two Way Radios.... > >>But what is > >> "Push to Talk" a trademark FOR? [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > > >So does NEXTEL? even use this controversial term, itself? Or is this simply > >USENET scuttlebutt? > > Nextel has trademarked "Direct Connect" whereas PTT is a more descriptive term > on what the feature does. I think VERIZON? does Big Al > It is funny but, PTT was on thirty year old Motorola Two Way Radios.... > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > term > > on what the feature does. Here is on the website's legal and disclaimer page. http://www.nextel.com/legal.shtml Nextel reserves all other rights. Copyright? Nextel Communications, Inc. All rights reserved. Nextel, the Nextel logo, the drivers' safety logo, Nextel Online, Nextel Worldwide, Nextel Direct Connect, Nextel Mobile Extension, Nextel Business Networks, Nextel National Plans, iTraveler, Nextel Nextday, How business gets done, How business gets done instantly, Nationwide Direct Connect, PUSH TO TALK, PTT, One phone. One number. Worldwide, and The next generation of wireless communications are trademarks, registered trademarks and/or service marks of Nextel Communications, Inc. , Motorola, Call Alert, i95cl, i90c, i80s, i88s, i85s, i60c, i55sr, i50sx, i30sx, i2000plus, i2000, i1000plus, i1000, i700plus, i600, i550plus, i500plus, i390, Message Mail, VibraCall, Turbo Dial and iDEN are trademarks, registered trademarks and/or service marks of Motorola, Inc. > >But what is > > "Push to Talk" a trademark FOR? [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > You not only get clear, crisp cell phone and Direct ConnectT calls, you can > also get access to the Web - right on your Nextel phone. |
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