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testgirl - 30 Jun 2003 18:18 GMT "http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/135116100_verizons uit28.html"
Nextel accused of stealing By Tom Giles Bloomberg News SAN FRANCISCO - Verizon Wireless accused Nextel Communications of stealing unreleased models of its new walkie-talkie telephones and making hundreds of calls to test Verizon Wireless' network.
The claims, made in a lawsuit filed yesterday in federal court in Alexandria, Va., show Nextel "crossed the line of healthy competition," said Jim Gerace, spokesman for Verizon Wireless, the largest U.S. mobile-phone company.
Nextel obtained two of Verizon's handsets on June 10 and placed "hundreds" of test calls on Verizon's network over the next few days, the suit says. Many of the calls passed through Verizon's computer switch in Chantilly, Va., Verizon said. That's the same network-computer switch that handles calls for Reston, Va., where Nextel is based.
The moves gave Nextel "valuable, confidential and proprietary business information," Verizon said. Nextel has and may continue to use that information "to compete unfairly."
Verizon Wireless is preparing to release a phone that doubles as a walkie-talkie in what will be the first challenge to Nextel, the only seller of push-to-talk phones for the past decade.
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Captain - 30 Jun 2003 18:29 GMT my question is how did verizon let these phones go, the article says sued but as you read it says they obtained them, so which is it verizon. i don't feel bad for verizon really.
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> uit28.html" > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > seller > of push-to-talk phones for the past decade. Da iDEN GOD - 01 Jul 2003 05:52 GMT ill tell you how verizon let them get loose.... some junkie in their tech department was desperate for cash .... and sold the prototype on the street to support his miserable drug habit....
duh.... how else would verizon and their 70 billion dollars of debt make a wrong move????!?!?!??! hmmm..... tell us now....
> my question is how did verizon let these phones go, the article says sued > but as you read it says they obtained them, so which is it verizon. i don't > feel bad for verizon really. "http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/135116100_verizons
> > uit28.html" > > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > seller > > of push-to-talk phones for the past decade. david - 09 Jul 2003 06:35 GMT Dude... check your facts first. Wasn't it just a few months, maybe a year ago, that Nextel filed for Chapter 11? for their international division? I believe Verizon Wireless is swimming in cash right now. 70 billion? riiiiight... trying to hear out of your bad reception walkie talkie is getting to your brain
> ill tell you how verizon let them get loose.... some junkie in their tech > department was desperate for cash .... and sold the prototype on the street [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > > seller > > > of push-to-talk phones for the past decade. L. Germ - 10 Jul 2003 17:03 GMT You might want to check facts.....VZW was the ONLY cellular provider last year who actually turned a profit. And if i am not mistaken was it not Nextel who filed chapter 11 for their international division?
"Da iDEN GOD" <none> wrote in article <vg24s5mothflc7@corp.supernews.com>:
> ill tell you how verizon let them get loose.... some junkie in their tech > department was desperate for cash .... and sold the prototype on the street [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > > > > > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups] Marcelrf@bellsouth.net - 10 Jul 2003 23:46 GMT True but right before Nextel International went bankrupt Timmy (Nextel CEO) and Swindler (Nextel Int CFO) decided to change their Name to NII so no one will associate them with nextel. Pretty slick Huh?
Also Nextel International has "No Recourse" to Nextel. In other words nextel can reap the profits. But if Nextel International goes bankrupt or gets sued nextel is protected. Real Slick.....But whet do you expect from the "How Business gets Done Company?"
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Dan W. - 30 Jun 2003 20:12 GMT If the phones were truly "Stolen" how can VZW prove who made the calls? Doesn't verizon block stolen phones?
Sounds to me if this really happened then VZW must have someone on the inside helping the Nextel guys out. VZW should investigate that before they start the lawyers in action.
I somehow doubt the head of testing at Nextel went out and broke into the Verizon Corp. office and made off in the night with the phones. I'm sure there is far more to the story than we are being told=)
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(testgirl ) wrote in article <vg0s6r7slhll81@corp.supernews.com>:
> "http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/135116100_verizons > uit28.html" [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups] Da iDEN GOD - 01 Jul 2003 06:11 GMT i got another one for you... why in gods name would nextel need to spy on verizon's ptt technology when nextel has MOTOROLA making their phones for them!!!!! why!!! do i need to repeat myself... motorola is the 20th largest coporation in the US.... they have people in their labs that could build machines and devices that we , er , you cant even begin to understand.... and if verizon had motorola working on the ptt, you would think nextel would know about it.... so if verizon doesnt have motorola on the job, they might as well hire the jack a.s that posted that he worked at a retail nextel store and didnt even know he could make his twoway sound come from his earpiece ( what a sorry , sad , misearable curse too be so retarded ) if not him , they probaly have qualcomm / kyocera working on one, i can respect kyocera, but its not moto, nothing is moto, moto is god, i am moto, we are one , your lives are all insignifacant compared to moto god , you will all perish in the wake of the moto god , respect the moto god and your poor souls MAY be spared....... sooo...... VERIZON SUCKS, GET A NEXTEL !!!
Bid4Survival - 01 Jul 2003 09:06 GMT Motorola owns nextel, I herd something about 26% of moto's stock is nextel. As far as I know the v60 is the phone that will have PTT on it for verizon. Motorola can tell nextel anything, hey maybe motorola wipped up a couple v60's for nextel to try out. LOL Is verizon gona try to sue big brother if its true??? They'll probley will never have PTT if they do. If they do sure nextel in a way they are sueing motorola was well aren't they??? Even if their PTT is a sucess NEXTEL will always be #1. I highly doubt their PTT will work in an analog roaming area. They'll have to have digital coverage where ever they use that feature. From my understanding nextel has more digital coverage than any other provider. Once again NEXTEL is #1.
> i got another one for you... why in gods name would nextel need to spy on > verizon's ptt technology when nextel has MOTOROLA making their phones for [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > perish in the wake of the moto god , respect the moto god and your poor > souls MAY be spared....... sooo...... VERIZON SUCKS, GET A NEXTEL !!! LBH - 01 Jul 2003 14:29 GMT "From my understanding nextel has more digital coverage than any other provider. Once again NEXTEL is #1."
Are you kidding me, have you traveled anywhere at all! I mean I live in Nassau County, NY and travel frequently, but just this Sunday I was out in Kings Park, NY at a motorcylce event, my Nextel constantly went in and out of service, luckily I kept my Verizon when I made the mistake of trying Nextel, for it had constant service as it does everywhere I travel!
Joshua Miller - 01 Jul 2003 22:32 GMT Motorola does not OWN Nextel... They OWN STOCK in Nextel. There is a very big difference. And they are slowly but surely selling all that stock off, year by year, getting rid of all of it. I'll have to find the news article that explains it.. but I think they're going to get rid of all but 1 or 2 % of their stock in Nextel.
> Motorola owns nextel, I herd something about 26% of moto's stock is nextel. > As far as I know the v60 is the phone that will have PTT on it for verizon. [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > perish in the wake of the moto god , respect the moto god and your poor > > souls MAY be spared....... sooo...... VERIZON SUCKS, GET A NEXTEL !!! P Howard - 02 Jul 2003 15:53 GMT Craig McCaw also sold all of his stock in Nextel, he wanted out as well. He's the guy that owned the network that eventually became ATT Wireless.
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"Joshua Miller" <jemiller@jem.phoenix.az.us> wrote in article <13848285e0098203dab345c9ee722f1f@free.teranews.com>:
> Motorola does not OWN Nextel... They OWN STOCK in Nextel. There is a very > big difference. And they are slowly but surely selling all that stock off, [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > > souls MAY be spared....... sooo...... VERIZON SUCKS, GET A NEXTEL > !!! Dan W. - 01 Jul 2003 17:46 GMT "Da iDEN GOD" <none> wrote in article <vg25vsplo6hj70@corp.supernews.com>: <<snip>>
> souls MAY be spared....... sooo...... VERIZON SUCKS, GET A NEXTEL !!! I don't know if i'd go that far, but i do beleive that Verizon is not quite all they would like to make themselves out to be.
They may be "#1 in customer satisfaction"...bla bla bla, but i dont tend to put a whole lot of faith into those as i do my own and others experiences. In addition if you look at the cumbers, the difference between the "best" and the "Worst" is not really that much to brag about=)
Al Bundy - 02 Jul 2003 13:22 GMT And you are an a.s, NEXTEL SUCKS. Al
> i got another one for you... why in gods name would nextel need to spy on > verizon's ptt technology when nextel has MOTOROLA making their phones for [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > perish in the wake of the moto god , respect the moto god and your poor > souls MAY be spared....... sooo...... VERIZON SUCKS, GET A NEXTEL !!! Da iDEN GOD - 02 Jul 2003 14:38 GMT whats up wit all da fags without enough credit to get a nextel.....
> And you are an a.s, NEXTEL SUCKS. > Al [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.493 / Virus Database: 292 - Release Date: 6/25/2003 P Howard - 02 Jul 2003 17:21 GMT Al Bundy... complete with hand down the shorts, balancing a beer and the tv remote in the other hand,
good to see you've entered the fray!
you all might be surprised but i think the perpetrator who represents al bundy on these newsgroups is actually quite technologically sophisticated, from what some of his previous posts said.
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"Al Bundy" <johnjr173@hotmail.com> wrote in article <N3SdnWIjQLo9U5-iXTWJjA@comcast.com>:
> And you are an a.s, NEXTEL SUCKS. > Al [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.493 / Virus Database: 292 - Release Date: 6/25/2003 jessie - 30 Oct 2003 05:31 GMT nextel is cool.
>And you are an a.s, NEXTEL SUCKS. >Al [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.493 / Virus Database: 292 - Release Date: 6/25/2003 MDS - 01 Jul 2003 19:46 GMT lol
i can see the nextel guys. "can you hear me now?"
Matt
P Howard - 02 Jul 2003 15:54 GMT HA!
good one!!!
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"MDS" <jonny__blaze@hot.mail.com> wrote in article <fGkMa.3715$U23.1225@nwrdny01.gnilink.net>:
> lol > > i can see the nextel guys. "can you hear me now?" > > Matt Al Bundy - 03 Jul 2003 01:58 GMT Thanks for the pat on the back Mr. Howard ( I hear you laughing now) I will be watching you from my couch with remote and Beer, Take care. Al
> HA! > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]
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