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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / Nextel / October 2004"Off-Network" Direct Connect??
A friend of mine just activated two lines (i205's) last evening at Office Depot, my friend (who is rather radio saavy) was told that with the new i205/i730's that the two phones can talk to each other even when not on the Network. I spent some time downloading the i205 pdf from Nextel last night with nothing mentioned of this FRS style feature, This pimply face drone must have been feeding him a crock of crap. True? A denial / confirmation would be appreciated. Thanks! Craig MKE http://www.wiscomm.com/media - Media Monitoring Guide PLANTATION, Fla. - September 19, 2003 - Motorola, Inc. (NYSE: MOT) and Nextel Communications, Inc. (NASDAQ: NXTL) have developed an iDEN® based Communication tool specifically targeted at Public Safety and Construction users. The new tool labelled "Moto Talk" (Simplex Talk-Around) offers off-network Direct Connect® capabilities. The new feature this will allow peer-to-peer conversations between Nextel users without the need for network support. Motorola has designed three new handsets featuring "Moto Talk" tentatively identified as the i315, i325ps, and i335ps. The first handset scheduled to be released is the i315, featuring a rugged design for harsh and demanding environments. The i325 will feature AFU (Advanced Feature Unit) capabilities in a rugged and durable phone. It will also support Nextel's widely used "Java" applications, which allows subscriber to select task specific applications. Motorola's i335 features a rugged handset with Moto-Talk, AFU, Java and Large Color Screen. Roll out of these new units is expected to begin as early as June 2004. > A friend of mine just activated two lines (i205's) last evening at > Office Depot, my friend (who is rather radio saavy) was told that with [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > MKE > http://www.wiscomm.com/media - Media Monitoring Guide > PLANTATION, Fla. - September 19, 2003 - Motorola, Inc. (NYSE: MOT) and Nextel > Communications, Inc. (NASDAQ: NXTL) have developed an iDEN® based Communication > tool specifically targeted at Public Safety and Construction users. The new tool > labelled "Moto Talk" (Simplex Talk-Around) offers off-network Direct Connect® > capabilities. The new feature this will allow peer-to-peer conversations between > Nextel users without the need for network support. Hmmmmmm.......Interesting news.......iDEN seems to be leading the Cell Phone Market as I speak as far as new ways to keep workforces efficient..... > The first handset scheduled to be > released is the i315, featuring a rugged design for harsh and demanding > environments. Probably suitable for Construction Workers, Police Officers, Military Personnel, and those who work at Hazardous Environments. > The i325 will feature AFU (Advanced Feature Unit) capabilities > in a rugged and durable phone. It will also support Nextel's widely used "Java" > applications, which allows subscriber to select task specific applications. J2ME in a Rugged Phone.....SWWWWEEEET > Motorola's i335 features a rugged handset with Moto-Talk, AFU, Java and Large > Color Screen. Roll out of these new units is expected to begin as early as June > 2004. Just to clarify this, is this i335 a Candybar-Type or a Clamshell-Type? I currently have a Nextel "Clamshell-Type" Phone, and I want to know if the i335 is a Clamshell-Type or a Candybar Type. > Just to clarify this, is this i335 a Candybar-Type or a Clamshell-Type? > I currently have a Nextel "Clamshell-Type" Phone, and I want to know > if the i335 is a Clamshell-Type or a Candybar Type. It might be a clamshell- I know they are introducing a rugged clamshell in the near future, and this sounds like it might be the one. The Details: http://f3.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/kNeyP1ND44tqGnhWTPQ18xljgUl3c2qsVxDXV008I8d6EEusQWE r3A4OJY-xpokgEg2otrQ92dHe0o4hNA/Motorola%20Falcon2.ppt > PLANTATION, Fla. - September 19, 2003 - Motorola, Inc. (NYSE: MOT) and Nextel > Communications, Inc. (NASDAQ: NXTL) have developed an iDEN® based Communication [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > > > Craig -- "NEXTEL-1 IT'S NOT JUST NEXTEL" Note The New address Subscribe to Nextel-1: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/NEXTEL-1 "NEXTEL2 FOR iDEN SOFTWARE DEVELOPERS" Subscribe to Nextel2: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/NEXTEL2 "WIRELESS FORUM HOMELAND SECURITY GROUP" The Complete Resource for Wireless Homeland Security. Subscribe to WFHSG: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/WFHSG http://sky.prohosting.com/jeckart/falcon.pps > The Details: > [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > The Complete Resource for Wireless Homeland Security. > Subscribe to WFHSG: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/WFHSG Interesting that they target "Public Safety". A standard phone like this puts out about 300Mw which is next to nothing in simplex mode. You'll get a mile or so at best. Unless they put out somwhere in the 10W range in simplex mode, I see these being a failure - or just a toy like FRS. >PLANTATION, Fla. - September 19, 2003 - Motorola, Inc. (NYSE: MOT) and Nextel >Communications, Inc. (NASDAQ: NXTL) have developed an iDEN® based Communication [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >> MKE >> http://www.wiscomm.com/media - Media Monitoring Guide I'm guessing the reason for the "public safety" reference is due to its "rugged design for harsh and demanding environments" and not its simplex mode feature. The most practical power you can push form a cell phone is about 2 watts, unless they add a large 12 volt pack which can bring it up to around 5 watts. You're probably right about the 300mW output, though. But 300mW is better than nothing. > Interesting that they target "Public Safety". A standard phone like this puts > out about 300Mw which is next to nothing in simplex mode. You'll get a mile [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > >> MKE > >> http://www.wiscomm.com/media - Media Monitoring Guide I hope they clarify it before someone gets hurt thinking it might actually work as good as their other equipment. 300Mw is what handhelds have been rated at since they were introduced. The original analog bag and car cell phones were a full 3W. I don't know of any handhelds that surpass 300Mw, but that doesn't mean there aren't any. >I'm guessing the reason for the "public safety" reference is due to its "rugged design for harsh and demanding >environments" and not its simplex mode feature. [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] >> >> MKE >> >> http://www.wiscomm.com/media - Media Monitoring Guide | I hope they clarify it before someone gets hurt thinking it might actually | work as good as their other equipment. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] | I don't know of any handhelds that surpass 300Mw, but that doesn't mean there | aren't any. Think SWAT and/or surviellance. A number of departments around here already use Nextel for vice and SWAT. T/A could be beneficial in some applications. | >I'm guessing the reason for the "public safety" reference is due to its "rugged design for harsh and demanding | >environments" and not its simplex mode feature. | > | >The most practical power you can push form a cell phone is about 2 watts, unless they add a large 12 volt pack which can bring it up to around 5 watts. You're probably right about the 300mW output, though. But 300mW is better than nothing. | >> Interesting that they target "Public Safety". A standard phone like this puts | >> out about 300Mw which is next to nothing in simplex mode. You'll get a mile [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] | >> >PLANTATION, Fla. - September 19, 2003 - Motorola, Inc. (NYSE: MOT) and Nextel | >> >Communications, Inc. (NASDAQ: NXTL) have developed an iDEN? based Communication | >> >tool specifically targeted at Public Safety and Construction users. The new tool | >> >labelled "Moto Talk" (Simplex Talk-Around) offers off-network Direct Connect? | >> >capabilities. The new feature this will allow peer-to-peer conversations between | >> >Nextel users without the need for network support. [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] | >> >> MKE | >> >> http://www.wiscomm.com/media - Media Monitoring Guide > I hope they clarify it before someone gets hurt thinking it might actually > work as good as their other equipment. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I don't know of any handhelds that surpass 300Mw, but that doesn't mean there > aren't any. None that don't require a license, at least. > Interesting that they target "Public Safety". A standard phone like this puts > out about 300Mw which is next to nothing in simplex mode. You'll get a mile > or so at best. > > Unless they put out somwhere in the 10W range in simplex mode, I see these > being a failure - or just a toy like FRS. FRS is merely 500 mw. I can't see anything as fancy as the iDEN phones being less than that (maybe similar). What is their standard online output? As for 10 watts..... uh, no. I've never seen a portable (handheld) radio from any branch of the industry run at more than 5 watts. Anything more than that would probably require you to permanently attach it to a battery pack on your waist. X-Signature: Vasectomy *************************************____ Shooting blanks since May 2003 \ _/__ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ \/ / JESUS LOVES YOU \/ EVERYONE ELSE THINKS YOU'RE AN IDIOT ************************************* . |
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