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Jared Robinson - 21 Jul 2003 17:03 GMT

Is Nextel doing so well in terms of high $ per user and low complaints
because the user doesn't pay for it? Do you think if your company was
paying your bill you would complain about lousy call clarity?

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Stuart G. Friedman - 22 Jul 2003 12:32 GMT

I think it is doing well because it is perceived by many business as busines
radio with some cellular service.

Stu

> Is Nextel doing so well in terms of high $ per user and low complaints
> because the user doesn't pay for it? Do you think if your company was
> paying your bill you would complain about lousy call clarity?
>
> [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]

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Dan W. - 22 Jul 2003 15:04 GMT

It always seemed to me that Nextel had a unique niche due to their PTT
system. For businesses this equated to huge savings over making calls
on what were once very high cellular rate plans. However now with
unlimited mobile to mobile, the PTT has kind of become less of a savings
tool and more of a "fun" tool.

I anticipate it (PTT not Nextel) will go the way of the 8-track and
Nextel will eventually adopt a new technology other than iDEN. iDEN is
TDMA based technology, so one might think they would go with GSM, but
from what i have read in news reports (yet before the recent
Nextel-Verizon scandal) Nextel and Verizon seemed to be kind of
"friendly" so i thought they might go the CDMA route, but now with
Nextel and Verizon on the outs, who knows.

Sprint-Tel?
Nex-ular?
T-Den?

Having said that though, in all the merger rumors, Nextel has never been
mentioned as far as i know.

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John Eckart - 23 Jul 2003 08:16 GMT

> It always seemed to me that Nextel had a unique niche due to their PTT
> system. For businesses this equated to huge savings over making calls
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> "friendly" so i thought they might go the CDMA route, but now with
> Nextel and Verizon on the outs, who knows.

If you do some research, you'll discover you couldn't be more wrong.

Nextel is being adopted by more and more companies every day. The only thing that may turn into 8-track tapes is trunking radios. The two-way radio will always exist and direct connect can do things that mobile to mobile can't. Direct Connect is a different kind of communications umbrella with quick communications with a large number of individuals and/or groups on-the-fly. I see more and more companies moving to direct connect. Allot of them have always been with them, like construction companies and such, but also towing companies, delivery companies and just about every other company who needs to keep in contact with people out in the field, or normally use radios and repeaters are now using or moving to Nextel because it's cheaper, more flexible, reliable and more powerful than their radio cousins. Nextel is also heavily used in local and state government, and a number police departments have moved to Nextel for reliability and security reasons. Not to mention that Nextel is now aiming at the average consumer. I only see Nextel growing.

The TDMA technology is working very well for Nextel. Before CDMA became available, I did allot of research on it and I was very excited about it because it looked so good on paper. I have now tried some of these CDMA companies and have discovered that TDMA is actually better in practice. Not because it is a better technology, but because CDMA can be manipulated too much by the Cellular providers, like using too much compression and overloading cell sites with too many connections. That is one thing that makes me wary about the 3G technology, is cell company abuse. Nextel is working on a move to an iDEN modified 3G, but there's no telling when it will become available.

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Dan W. - 23 Jul 2003 14:44 GMT

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On this, i could not agree with you more..... I previously used Sprint
but found their particular "configuration" was just not to my liking.
AT&T's TDMA set up however works just fine for me.

I didn't mean to slam Nextel, just seems that PTT, while may very well
have lots of uses, may be limited in it's uses for the average public.
However, nextel has seemingly done a good job marketing their products
to the appropriate consumers and has recently surprised lots of folks
with their financial performance.

The big limiting factor for me is the fact since they use a system all
their own, there is no available roaming in places without nextel.
Granted they have recently signed agreements with local iDEN carriers,
but it's still limited in the places i work and play.

The future however, has yet to be determined, so who knows what the next
24-36 months will bring.

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> The TDMA technology is working very well for Nextel. Before CDMA became =
> available, I did allot of research on it and I was very excited about it =
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> abuse. Nextel is working on a move to an iDEN modified 3G, but there's =
> no telling when it will become available.

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George Washington - 23 Jul 2003 08:32 GMT

You forgot that the unlimited mobile to mobile minutes only work with in
your local area. You cant use them if you are in LA and your friend is
in NY. Also Direct Conect is 10 times faster than using the regular
cellular call. I think Nextels iden will be upgraded soon, but right
now it works fine for me.

hominid7@hotmail.com (Dan W.) wrote in article
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> It always seemed to me that Nextel had a unique niche due to their PTT
> system. For businesses this equated to huge savings over making calls
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George Blanas - 22 Jul 2003 16:01 GMT

I am not a business user, but find the PTT feature useful for keeping in
touch with family members when we are at malls, etc. I also deal with
various vendors in my line of work who have Nextel so I also use PTT
with them. It's nice when you don't have to worry about using cellular
minutes. Other carriers offer free mobile to mobile, but I think it's
only good for phones on the same account. PTT can be used with anyone
who has Nextel.

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Menards 3170 - 22 Jul 2003 21:39 GMT

I don't pay anything for my Nextel Retail Associate rate plan, but I
probably complain more than the average user if I find a poor coverage area.
I do believe the old saying "you get what you pay for", but I also believe
things should work the way they were intended.

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