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How to clear all info on Nokia phone
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Lucifer - 28 Apr 2005 03:47 GMT Hi,
I am giving my Nokia 3588i to a friend after I terminated my own service on it with Sprint. He will reactivate it on his own Sprint account. (He broke his own phone and I switched carriers.)
How do I clear all information, settings and customizations on the phone before handing it over? Can I select the "Reset all to factory settings"? Will that make the phone un-re-activable?
Also, the data port on that phone arrived, for some reason, turned off when I first received it. I never turned it on as I did not require it. Can this feature now be turned on when the phone is re-activated?
Thanks for any advice.
Lucifer
Bob Smith - 28 Apr 2005 17:39 GMT > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > make the > phone un-re-activable? No, all it will do is to clear out your phone logs, bookmarks if you have any, and your address book.
> Also, the data port on that phone arrived, for some reason, turned off when I > first received it. I never turned it on as I did not require it. Can this > feature now > be turned on when the phone is re-activated? It should be, as long as the new subscriber takes the Vision option on their account.
Bob
Lucifer - 28 Apr 2005 17:43 GMT Thanks very much. The information greatly relieves my mind!
Lucifer
>> Hi, >> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Bob Isaiah Beard - 28 Apr 2005 21:31 GMT > "Lucifer" <lucifer@doom.world> wrote in message
>>Also, the data port on that phone arrived, for some reason, turned off > when I [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > It should be, as long as the new subscriber takes the Vision option on their > account. Actually, the Nokia 3588i is NOT Vision capable. It is a voice-only phone, and will not work with the data services. So unfortuantely, that data port isn't really useful for very much, at least to the end user.
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Bob Smith - 28 Apr 2005 21:36 GMT > > "Lucifer" <lucifer@doom.world> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > phone, and will not work with the data services. So unfortuantely, that > data port isn't really useful for very much, at least to the end user. Thanks for the clarification Isaiah ... :)
Bob
Lucifer - 29 Apr 2005 01:13 GMT Thanks for the responses.
That is right - the phone does not do Vision services. Actually I was thinking in terms of using the data port for uploading ringtones, wallpapers and stuff - that's actually what the person asked (one whom I am giving my phone to).
By the way, the phone is capable of CDMA2000 1X data connection (according to the Nokia website). Also, the DKU-5 data cable is specified for use on this phone, among other Nokia units.
http://www.nokiausa.com/phones/3588i/0,2803,,00.html
http://www.nokiausa.com/support/phones/main/1,2836,3588i,00.html
Regards and thanks.
Lucifer
>> > "Lucifer" <lucifer@doom.world> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Bob Steve Sobol - 29 Apr 2005 07:55 GMT > By the way, the phone is capable of CDMA2000 1X data connection (according to > the Nokia website). Also, the DKU-5 data cable is specified for use on this > phone, among other Nokia units. Nokia builds in 1x capacity to the 3585/3586/3588/3589, but each carrier gets firmware manufacturered to the carrier's specs. The 3586 and 3589 sold by Verizon do use 1x, the 3588 doesn't, and I don't know about the other Sprint phone (the 3585); I think it might be a Vision-capable phone (which implies 1x data).
Why Sprint didn't include 1x on the 3588 or, for that matter, the Motorola v60v, I don't know. I get offered a two-month Vision trial every time I talk to Customer Service; they're obviously trying to push it hard, so I'm surprised they sell phones that can't run Vision apps.
At any rate, this is a Sprint issue, not a Nokia issue.
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Isaiah Beard - 29 Apr 2005 14:05 GMT > Why Sprint didn't include 1x on the 3588 or, for that matter, the > Motorola v60v, I don't know. This is just speculation, but I think that's what happens when Sprint puts a phone manufacturer on "probation." You'll notice that since the Nokia 6185 and the Motorola StarTac/TimePort/Talkabout series, Motorola and Nokia have been absent from the Sprint line until very recently. IIRC, Both Motorola and Nokia decided to develop their own CDMA chipsets instead of using Qualcomm's prepackaged Mobile Station Modems (MSM's), and I have a feeling those independent chipset designs didn't perform very well on the network.
Even now, I still don't think Nokia's fully committed to CDMA. Every time you remove the back panel of a Nokia 3585/3588i, the innards of a GSM phone, SIM module and all, stare back at you. Nokia's CDMA lineup is clearly an afterthought: design the GSM stuff, then find an existing GSM phone, rip out the RF section and shoehorn in a CDMA engine in its place.
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Steve Sobol - 30 Apr 2005 01:05 GMT > Even now, I still don't think Nokia's fully committed to CDMA. Every > time you remove the back panel of a Nokia 3585/3588i, the innards of a > GSM phone, SIM module and all, stare back at you. Nokia's CDMA lineup > is clearly an afterthought: design the GSM stuff, then find an existing > GSM phone, rip out the RF section and shoehorn in a CDMA engine in its > place. Google for the word Nokia in posts I've authored and you'll find many Nokia CDMA rants. You're exactly right, and that's the reason that, after owning an AMPS Nokia 100, an 800 MHz CDMA Nokia 2180, a tri-mode CDMA 6185 and a tri-mode CDMA 3285, I will no longer buy Nokia. The 2180 was a solid performer. The 6185 was uneven at best. The 3285 was better, but still uneven. Nokia supposedly has finally started producing CDMA phones with great RF performance, but I'll never personally experience that performance, since I'm tired of Nokia's stupidity.
I preferred Kyocera when I was with Verizon, since the Kyo models seem to be consistently good, and I'm using Samsung now on Sprint (Sanyo's another company that produces Sprint phones with very good RF performance). Samsung has a couple models that are questionable, but the VGA-1000 (SPH-A620) and the newer models get good reviews from users regarding RF.
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Shiva - 30 Apr 2005 01:12 GMT Actually, what I think it is that the socket one sees on opening the back off a 3588i is the socket for a R-UIM card which functions almost exactly like a SIM card. R-UIM (Removable-User-Identity-Module) was designed to be used on both CDMA and GSM phones.
http://www.cdmatech.com/solutions/products/r-uim.jsp
The 3588i is a purely CDMA device actually.
Shiva
>> Why Sprint didn't include 1x on the 3588 or, for that matter, the >> Motorola v60v, I don't know. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > clearly an afterthought: design the GSM stuff, then find an existing GSM > phone, rip out the RF section and shoehorn in a CDMA engine in its place. Isaiah Beard - 29 Apr 2005 13:57 GMT > Thanks for the responses. > > That is right - the phone does not do Vision services. Actually I was thinking > in terms of using the data port for uploading ringtones, wallpapers and stuff - > that's actually what the person asked (one whom I am giving my phone to). Ah, that MIGHT work then. Haven't tried it myself though.
> By the way, the phone is capable of CDMA2000 1X data connection (according to > the Nokia website). From a purely technical standpoint, yes the electronics are in there. However for whatever reason, Sprint PCS chose not to enable that part of the phone in firmware. The electronics DO give an advantage to Sprint in that like all other 3G phones, voice traffic is taking up about half the space it used to in terms of bandwidth, but the data side just isn't used.
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