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Cellular Phone Forum / Manufacturers / Nokia / July 20056680 - getting rid of Orange customisation & changing the Standby Scrn.
I've just bought a Nokia 6680, and I am fairly happy with it, however my main issues are due to over-customisation by the Orange network. The biggest issue I have is the "standby screen". I hate the Orange one with all the links on the left, and with all the links to Orange World etc. I can't find a way to customise it though. Does anyone know if it's possible? I've seen photos of the 6680 that is not Orange-ised and the standby screen looks a whole lot better. Like this one: http://my-symbian.com/7650/grafika4/6680r17.jpg Is there a way I can change the Standby Screen in the settings? Or is there some kind of mod? Is it possible to flash the phone entirely to get rid off all the Orange stuff? TIA - Please be nice, I am just a newbie! Thanks! Jonny > I've just bought a Nokia 6680, and I am fairly happy with it, however > my main issues are due to over-customisation by the Orange network. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Jonny Just looking at the link to screen shot, to get that "look", simply change to the "Nokia" theme. Check your manual on how to change themes. The Nokia theme comes as standard. Customisation by networks is a pain in the butt, but I believe that the flasher community haven't been able to work out how to do it yet... (judging by some earlier 6680 related posts) Even in the Nokia theme, there is still no option to change anything about the Standby Screen in settings>phone. I am furious with Orange for not even giving their customers the option of changing it. >> I've just bought a Nokia 6680, and I am fairly happy with it, however >> my main issues are due to over-customisation by the Orange network. [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > (judging > by some earlier 6680 related posts) The 6680 can be flashed, but not unlocked.  Signature<<< Unlock Your Phone's Potential >>> <<< www.uselessinfo.org.uk >>> <<< www.thephonelocker.co.uk >>> <<< www.gsm-solutions.co.uk >>> >The 6680 can be flashed, but not unlocked. fine by me - I like Orange as a network, but not all the Orange crap they impose on me. It's almost like spyware/adware comes preinstalled. How do I go about flashing the thing? > >The 6680 can be flashed, but not unlocked. > > fine by me - I like Orange as a network, but not all the Orange crap > they impose on me. It's almost like spyware/adware comes preinstalled. I couldn't agree more. If one thing puts me off a phone more than anything else, it's the bastardisation that some of the networks foist upon the end user. > How do I go about flashing the thing? At the moment, the only reliable flasher that supports BB5 handsets is JAF (have a look at the GSM-Solutions link in my sig) which is probably a tad expensive if you're only wanting to flash the one phone. Alternatively you could try to get an official service centre to do it (but they're not supposed to unbrand handsets, and won't be able to at all before too long) or we'll be adding it to ThePhonelocker pretty soon as well. Signature<<< Unlock Your Phone's Potential >>> <<< www.uselessinfo.org.uk >>> <<< www.thephonelocker.co.uk >>> <<< www.gsm-solutions.co.uk >>> Have you known Nokia shops to flash them in the store? What sort of thing should I ask for to get this service?? ;-) > Have you known Nokia shops to flash them in the store? Yes, but they're only supposed to upgrade the firmware, not unbrand it. Systems are being put into place by Nokia to prevent official service centres unofficially flashing different PPM packs than what the phone was originally provided with. > What sort of > thing should I ask for to get this service?? ;-) If it's just a firmware upgrade you're after, just tell them that the phone seems unstable and reboots randomly. If you're after them debranding it, you'll just have to be cheeky and ask them outright (most will refuse). Signature<<< Unlock Your Phone's Potential >>> <<< www.uselessinfo.org.uk >>> <<< www.thephonelocker.co.uk >>> <<< www.gsm-solutions.co.uk >>> I just made a call - pretty much sorted for next week. Now my concern is this:.. If it's unbranded, will I be use the Orange TV application still? Or will it think I am not an Orange customer any more and not work? I've installed the app on my memory card, so downloading it again is not an issue. >>Have you known Nokia shops to flash them in the store? > > Yes, but they're only supposed to upgrade the firmware, not unbrand it. > Systems are being put into place by Nokia to prevent official service > centres unofficially flashing different PPM packs than what the phone was > originally provided with. Generally they have Phoenix set up so that it reads the product code and reloads the configuration demanded by that. So you get all the branding and the SP lock will be reinstated if it has been removed (although as the 6680 is BB5 you won't have been able to remove it yourself anyway) >> What sort of >>thing should I ask for to get this service?? ;-) > > If it's just a firmware upgrade you're after, just tell them that the phone > seems unstable and reboots randomly. If you're after them debranding it, > you'll just have to be cheeky and ask them outright (most will refuse). The one that used to do me a few favours in the past is now outright rude if I ask them for anything of this nature, clearly the money-grabbing bastards that set the operators' financial strategies are leaning on the manufacturers to make it hard to escape their clutches. SignatureBrian Morrison please observe reply-to address "Generally they have Phoenix set up so that it reads the product code and reloads the configuration demanded by that. So you get all the branding and the SP lock will be reinstated if it has been removed (although as the 6680 is BB5 you won't have been able to remove it yourself anyway" sorry to be dense, im not up on this stuff - does this mean that the place I found that will flash my phone will simply flash it with the orange configuration again?! > "Generally they have Phoenix set up so that it reads the product code > and [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > place I found that will flash my phone will simply flash it with the > orange configuration again?! If it's an official service centre, almost certainly yes. Ask them first to be sure. Signature<<< Unlock Your Phone's Potential >>> <<< www.uselessinfo.org.uk >>> <<< www.thephonelocker.co.uk >>> <<< www.gsm-solutions.co.uk >>> >If it's an official service centre, almost certainly yes. Ask them first to be sure. so that's a waste of time then. thats what im trying to get rid of! <snip> > > Customisation by networks is a pain in the butt, but I believe that the > > flasher community haven't been able to work out how to do it yet... > > (judging > > by some earlier 6680 related posts) > > The 6680 can be flashed, but not unlocked. (Thanks) To change the "Stanby Screen", go to menu - tools - settings - phone -stand by mode, then you can alter it the way you want, or remove it... The picture in the link are not from the standby screen, it's inside the Connectivity folder... "Paul Turner" <turnerpaul@gmail.com> skrev i meddelandet news:1117105855.538382.42920@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > I've just bought a Nokia 6680, and I am fairly happy with it, however > my main issues are due to over-customisation by the Orange network. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Jonny >To change the "Stanby Screen", go to menu - tools - settings - phone -stand by mode, then you can alter it the way you want, or remove it... nope - Like I said in my prev post - Orange have removed that function. Sure, you can goto tools, settings, phone, stanby mode - but you only get the options to redefine the keys when in standy mode. I've checked a million times. It's totally not there. I've worked out the normal standby screen IS there, however they've removed the option to cutomise/active it, and ADDED an Orange screen as almost like a second standby screen that it goes to when hanging up etc. The only way I can get to the original (proper) standby screen is by holding down the bottom left key to view all running apps (like shift-tab in windows) and then selecting "Telephone". But it's pretty pointless becuase firstly I can't customise it, and secondly as soon as I end a call etc it goes back to the Orange screen. As is probably obvious, all the operators tweak the software to constantly remind you of their brand. It's just the price you pay for a subsidised handset. Think of free email with advertising, paid email without. The alternative is to buy a 6680 SIM free for about £400, then (a) you've got choice of operator, (b) you can probably cut a better tariff deal if there's no handset upgrade, (b) the phone will probably be more stable and (3) you can get a half decent price on eBay when you get bored. > >To change the "Stanby Screen", go to menu - tools - settings - > >phone -stand [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > becuase firstly I can't customise it, and secondly as soon as I end a > call etc it goes back to the Orange screen. Paul Turner wrote: > I've just bought a Nokia 6680, and I am fairly happy with it, however > my main issues are due to over-customisation by the Orange network. Well you'll know not to use Orange again! It does make me wondor what monkey is in charge up their, stuff like this only makes people hate the brand. > The biggest issue I have is the "standby screen". I hate the Orange one > with all the links on the left, and with all the links to Orange World > etc. I can't find a way to customise it though. Does anyone know if > it's possible? Hi Jonny, Here's a temporary fix. Whilst in the "Orange" standby screen. Press and hold the menu button. Select Telephone. Et Voila! Simon thanks simon, i noticed that! it looks like such a better screen doesnt it?! Of course as you pointed out its only temporary as the next time you press hang-up you go back to the orange adware screen. and of course, you're still unable to customise it too... I'm getting a bit more used to my orange 6680 now, so thought I'd contribute. I'm trying to kill the HomeScreen app and process using TaskSpy (trying to do what you chaps have tried to do another way), and can do so successfully, but the bugger will restart whenever either the hang up button is pressed, or you exit the menu screen. It appears to be on the Z: drive (which is the ROM if I'm figuring this correctly). I figure that if this can be prevented from starting the Orange standby screen can be got rid of and some more phone memory will be freed up (around 300kb). I guess there's something like the symbian equivalent of an autoexec.bat starting it whenever the hang up button is pressed and that it's not removable from ROM (unless theres a symbian equivalent of the Jacksprat thing that manipuilates ROM in the palm PDAs), but was wondering if anyone cleverer than me has any idea of how to do this or stop the dam nthing from restarting. G If ANYONE knows how to get rid of the Orange crap - please let us know It's AWFUL!! I had the same problem with my previous handset (K700i), and ended u flashing it with standard Sony software (heaps better with far mor useful functionality). I would gladly pay to have the original Nokia software put on and think it's a traversty that you can't! I'm happy to stay 'locked' to Orange, I just don't want their stupi handset software : |
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