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Cellular Phone Forum / Manufacturers / Nokia / June 2006USB data cable for US Nokia 6030 / Connect Nokia 6030 to PC
Hello. I just got a Nokia 6030 from Cingular here in the US and have been trying to hook it up to my computer. According to both Nokia and Cingular (who was probably told by Nokia) the phone has no official cable connectors and that the only way to transfer stuff to it would be through WAP. I did some research on my own and came across a few websites that list some unofficial cables. I also keep coming across contradicting posts. Some say that you cannot connect it, others say that you can connect it. And those who claim to have been successful have posted information which is insufficient and terrible (I mean painfully terrible) to read. Here's some links for your amusement: Official Nokia site for the 6030: http://www.nokiausa.com/phones/6030 Posts : http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_6030-reviews-1086.php http://www.mobile9.com/invboard/index.php?s=6c5f1a9fd437f487e8563c6e6f03951b&sho wtopic=16117&pid=204605&st=0&#entry204605 Possible cables: http://greattop.en.alibaba.com/product/50022291/50163398/Mobile_Phone_PC_Data_Ca bles/USB_Cable_for_Nokia__GT_DC_USB_NKI6030_A_.html http://mobile.brando.com.hk/USBcable-N6030.php If you look at the phone, it has what looked at first a 4 pin USB connector. I tried the cable that I connect my digital camera to the PC on the phone but it was too big- must be a mini USB. From my research, I found out that the port is meant for data support services, usually carried out by Nokia tech, but supposedly people have had luck connecting it to the computer. I am also convinced that the phone can be connected to the PC because the 6030 is also supported by public software like MobiMB. Another connection that is possible according to these posts is through pins that exist on the back of the phone. You have to take the battery off (and this is where it gets vague) some say the end of the cable connects straight into the phone, others say it must be attached to the battery and the whole assembly fits into the phone. I don't think I have ever come across anything more confusing and frustrating than finding instructions for connecting a phone to the computer. I had a Motorola V220 which was a pain in the neck to connect to the PC and sync with Motorola Mobile Tools. With the V220, I could at least use a regular 4 pin USB. Anyway, I would greatly appreciate any feedback from those who might have had luck with this phone. Thanks. sterc (): > others say it must be attached to the > battery and the whole assembly fits into the phone. This is the correct sequence. Te battery must fit in special slot in technological cable and the whole assembly fits into the battery slot. The phone must be turned. You can find complete technological cable connection instructions in our forum topics: This topic is dedicated to 6030 phone connection: http://forum.opm-2.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=opm2cable&Number=16069&page=0&vie w=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1 And here you can find general recommendations on technological cable connectivity: http://forum.opm-2.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=opm2cable&Number=14420&page=2&vie w=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1 http://forum.opm-2.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=opm2cable&Number=7883&page=9&view =collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1 We support Nokia 6030 in Oxygen Phone Manager II ( http://www.opm-2.com/ ), Oxygen Phone Manager II Lite Edition ( http://www.opm-2.com/lite/ ) and in Oxygen Express ( http://www.oxygen-express.com/ ). Best regards, Maxim Vyalkov. Oxygen Software - tools for your mobile phone. Oxygen Phone Manager II - all you want from your mobile phone. http://www.opm-2.com/ http://www.oxygensoftware.com/ Hi, Thank you for responding to my posting. So from your links, it seems like the serial cable for the Nokia 1100 should work with the 6030 as well. Is it better to use that one or the USB one? What are the pros and cons of using either? Also, is there a difference between the European and American versions of this phone when it comes to PC connectivity? What cable would you recommend and is there any places inside the US that would sell it? Thank you again. Hello! h> So from your links, it seems like the serial cable for the Nokia 1100 h> should work with the 6030 as well. Is it better to use that one or h> the h> USB one? What are the pros and cons of using either? On transport level they transfer the data at the same rate: 115200 bit/s . If you are using Serial cable, then you should change IRQ ( Interrupt Request ) for physical COM port, so it is not IRQ3 or IRQ4. In case of USB cable you don't need to change IRQ's, but you should install virtual COM port emulation drivers. USB cables are usually based on ProLific PL-2303 chipset ( you can download the drivers here: http://www.prolific.com.tw/eng/downloads.asp?ID=31 ) or Texas Instruments chipset ( the drivers are available here: http://focus.ti.com/docs/toolsw/folders/print/tusbwinvcp.html ). Anyhow, USB cable's supplier must provide the drivers or chipset model number, this cable is based on. h> Also, is there a difference between the European and American h> versions h> of this phone when it comes to PC connectivity? It looks, that there is no difference, but we cannot state this, as we haven't evaluated American version of 6030. h> What cable would you recommend and is there any places inside the US h> that would sell it? You can find such cable's over ebay. Unfortunately, we cannot recommend any model, because this type of connection is unofficial and your phone's warranty voids when you plug this cable to your phone. Best regards, Maxim Vyalkov. Oxygen Software - tools for your mobile phone. Oxygen Phone Manager II - all you want from your mobile phone. http://www.opm-2.com/ http://www.oxygensoftware.com/ Hello, "huntagratsna" <huntagratsna@yahoo.com>! 1 Jun 2006 07:20:12 -0700 14:20:12 in alt.cellular.nokia you wrote: h> Hi, h> Thank you for responding to my posting. h> So from your links, it seems like the serial cable for the Nokia 1100 h> should work with the 6030 as well. Is it better to use that one or h> the h> USB one? What are the pros and cons of using either? h> Also, is there a difference between the European and American h> versions h> of this phone when it comes to PC connectivity? h> What cable would you recommend and is there any places inside the US h> that would sell it? h> Thank you again. Hi Maxim. Thanks for your quick replies. I ordered the USB cable from mobile.brando.com.hk and it comes with the drivers and everything. I should receive it within 2 weeks. Will update this posting with my progress. Thanks again. > Hi Maxim. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Thanks again. Hi huntagratsna Just to let you know that, when you get the cable, don't use Oxygen's product. Download the FREE PC Suite from Nokia & try using that first. It's a smaller, faster piece of software than Oxygen's bloatware and doesn't come with loads of useless 'features'. Thanks for the heads up harleyglenn. I didn't think that PC Suite supported the 6030 though. Do you know for sure? > Thanks for the heads up harleyglenn. I didn't think that PC Suite > supported the 6030 though. Do you know for sure? No mate, I don't know for sure, but I do know that it will often pick up phones that it allegedly won't support. As it's free there's no harm in trying, you may get lucky. Try an older version rather than the latest one though, the older one's are a little less picky about the type of cable you use. Failing that, if it doesn't work, try downloading Oxygen from one of the P2P networks and get it free too. To be honest with you, for what you want, it's really not worth the money. If they did the 'Lite' version for free, it would be very different, but why buy when PC Suite is free? There's also a number of us really fed up with their constant spamming on this site. If their product was that good, they wouldn't need to do that. Anyway, best of luck. Harleyglenn- I was planning on giving the Suite a try anyway. I did notice in other postings that Oxygen was indirectly but frequently mentioned, quite a few times at the end of the message. Even though I have to admit that the gentleman was helpful by recommending a cable, you are right. One wouldn't need to broadcast their software through public postings if the software quality spoke for itself. Thanks for the advice. huntagratsna Any time! Best of luck & let me know how you get on. Cheers Well. Guess what? I just received my package today to find out that those idiots sent me a cable for the Nokia 6060 instead. Grrrrr! Second time this has happened to me when I order stuff from China. This won't work with the 6030 will it? I have not torn the package so I am going to send them an email and ask to be sent the right one. > Well. Guess what? I just received my package today to find out that > those idiots sent me a cable for the Nokia 6060 instead. Grrrrr! Second > time this has happened to me when I order stuff from China. > > This won't work with the 6030 will it? I have not torn the package so I > am going to send them an email and ask to be sent the right one. Hiya. Not sure about the cable compatibility, I don't know the 6060 that well. Be best to email them, as you say. Failing that, check out your local Nokia dealer/service centre, see what they say. If you have anyone local who unlocks phones, they should be able to help too! Well. I emailed the seller and he responded saying that the cable for the 6060 is compatible with the 6030. This is funny because the USB cable I got, I am assuming, plugs into this mini-USB port at the bottom of the phone (haven't tried it yet). That's what I was looking for to begin with but then it seemed like the connection at the back of the battery was the one recommended (according to the Oxygen Manager guy). I hope I will still be able to do the same though. The thing I find annoying is that the cable I was expecting looks very little like the one I just got. I mean the picture I looked at when I ordered the cable showed me a cable with 3 pins sticking out of a plastic base and a USB connector on the other. I am wondering if this guy sent this cable on purpose. If so why would he advertise a different cable? Hmmm...I am going to size up the cable by eye to see if it will fit, and if it does it might work. I mean, now that I think about it, it is a little odd to have to take the battery off and then stick the cable in the back. Doesn't sound too practical. Will give it a try later. Thank you. h> That's what I was looking for to h> begin with but then it seemed like the connection at the back of the h> battery was the one recommended (according to the Oxygen Manager h> guy). As per reports from our respective customers, this type of connection also works. That plug, which looks similar to 'mini-USB' is directly connected with the same contacts as the contacts under the battery.If you are using USB cable, please, don't forget to install virtual COM port emulation driver. Virtual COM port emulation driver creates new COM port in your system, so you can use it in our program. If you haven't got any CD with the cable, you can try these drivers: http://www.prolific.com.tw/eng/downloads.asp?ID=31 Most of such thirdparty cables from China are based on PL-2303 chipset. Best regards, Maxim Vyalkov. Oxygen Software - tools for your mobile phone. Oxygen Phone Manager II - all you want from your mobile phone. http://www.opm-2.com/ http://www.oxygensoftware.com/ Hello, "huntagratsna" <huntagratsna@yahoo.com>! 9 Jun 2006 05:40:59 -0700 12:40:59 in alt.cellular.nokia you wrote: h> Well. I emailed the seller and he responded saying that the cable for h> the 6060 is compatible with the 6030. This is funny because the USB h> cable I got, I am assuming, plugs into this mini-USB port at the h> bottom h> of the phone (haven't tried it yet). That's what I was looking for to h> begin with but then it seemed like the connection at the back of the h> battery was the one recommended (according to the Oxygen Manager h> guy). h> I hope I will still be able to do the same though. The thing I find h> annoying is that the cable I was expecting looks very little like the h> one I just got. I mean the picture I looked at when I ordered the h> cable h> showed me a cable with 3 pins sticking out of a plastic base and a h> USB h> connector on the other. I am wondering if this guy sent this cable on h> purpose. If so why would he advertise a different cable? h> Hmmm...I am going to size up the cable by eye to see if it will fit, h> and if it does it might work. I mean, now that I think about it, it h> is h> a little odd to have to take the battery off and then stick the cable h> in the back. Doesn't sound too practical. h> Will give it a try later. h> Thank you. Hello harleyglenn. It works! This is what I did: 1. Plugged the mini-USB cable (the USB end of it) into the computer. It prompted me with the new hardware wizard. Said Install it automatically. It found the USB cable driver. I didn't know you needed a driver to use the cable though. The phone was not plugged in at this point. So I've been wondering about that. The Oxygen guy keeps mentioning chipsets but I am not quite sure what chipsets he is talking about: phone or cable chipsets. Is there a chipset at the USB end of the cable, is that why it is thicker? I didn't think cables had chipsets. I didn't need to use the cd that came with the phone. I do keep getting another add hardware wizard though everytime I startup. It is a PCI connector according to the device manager. I try to search for drivers on the cd but it doesn't find any. Any idea what this second wizard is about? 2. Anyway, installed the cable and then installed MobiMB. Hadn't restarted the machine so the phone wasn't being detected. Tried it a couple more times. No luck. Next day though, with the machine restarted, the phone was detected and I used Logo Manager Pro Suite demo to browse ringtones, wallpapapers, themes etc. The demo would only let me drop one file at a time but what do I care. My phone only has 3MB of memory anyway. One thing that I couldn't get to work was games. I downloaded some torrent games and can't make them work. Each games came as two files one of which was a .jar file. Dragged and dropped them onto the games folder. They wouldn't show up on the phone though. Any idea of how to make them work? Ringtones and wallpapers were a piece of cake. The screen on the phone would refresh immediately and before I knew everything would be downloaded and ready to mess with. Thanks and hope this will help somebody else out there. Cheers. Hiya mate! Woo-hoo! Cool, it works! Not sure what your other 'connectivity' driver is, I've never come across that before! Try looking online for a suitable driver, in particular, try www.driverguide.com , they have drivers for pretty much everything (apart from my old Nisis camera, but that's another story). You'll need to register a username & password, but it's all FREE! As for installing the games, you'll need to install PCSuite to give your comuter an association with JAR files. It treats them as a kind of executable and unpacks them onto your phone via your cable connection. That way, you just download them, double-click the JAR file and away you go! Glad you're getting sorted. Cheers Glenn Yep it worked. And I didn't have to install any COM port emulation drivers or fix any IRQs. Will install PC Suite and try to install some games and apps on it too. Later. huntagratsna wrote in alt.cellular.nokia > Hello harleyglenn. > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > drivers on the cd but it doesn't find any. Any idea what this second > wizard is about? I do not know what kind of phone you have, but some brands use what is known as a smart usb cable. These cables contain chips in the end of them to do some of the work, this is what is known as the chipset. And these cables need special drivers, but the phone itself will not. On the other hand, the phones that do not use smart cables need the drivers for the phones. > 2. Anyway, installed the cable and then installed MobiMB. Hadn't > restarted the machine so the phone wasn't being detected. Tried it a > couple more times. No luck. Next day though, with the machine > restarted, the phone was detected and I used Logo Manager Pro Suite > demo to browse ringtones, wallpapapers, themes etc. The demo would only > let me drop one file at a time but what do I care. The proper way to install any USB device, phones included, is to install the software, connect the device when prompted, and often times reboot. Especially if you are using a smart cable. My phone only has > 3MB of memory anyway. One thing that I couldn't get to work was games. > I downloaded some torrent games and can't make them work. Each games > came as two files one of which was a .jar file. Dragged and dropped > them onto the games folder. They wouldn't show up on the phone though. > Any idea of how to make them work? Are they for your phone? Different phones have different requirements for the games.  SignatureDick #1349 "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~Benjamin Franklin Home Page: dickcr.iwarp.com email: dickcr@comcast.net |
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