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Copy Files Mem Card to Mem Card Nokia 6234

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Canopus - 21 Nov 2006 13:53 GMT
I bought a 1GB memory card for above phone, but, seem to be having
difficulty copying some items from one card to the other.  Copying my
videos and images proved no problem going Old Card > PC > New Card using a
card reader and swapping cards, but, from the Extras folder in the old
card I find that the applications in Collections have only the .jad files
copied not the .jar files of the applications or the .rms database file.  
Same with games, the .jar files will not copy, I get an Access Denied
error.  Is there any trick to copying these applications and games?  I
found something similar with screen savers, wallpaper and ring tones, the
only way I could copy them from one card to another was to move a few from
the card to phone memory, swap cards and then move them back to the memory
card, but, due to lack of phone memory it's a slow and cumbersome process
and applications and games use more memory creating greater difficulties.  
Surely this is not the only way to do it.

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Canopus - 21 Nov 2006 14:03 GMT
I forgot to mention, there is also a "SD Content Package sd_voda" file
that cannot be copied from old card to PC and also if I right click on it
or any .jar file no context menu comes up so I cannot see their properties.

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Jonathan Quirk - 25 Nov 2006 11:24 GMT
> I forgot to mention, there is also a "SD Content Package sd_voda" file  
> that cannot be copied from old card to PC and also if I right click on  
> it or any .jar file no context menu comes up so I cannot see their  
> properties.

I found that some of the files, such as the games, could not be copied off  
the 64Meg card that came with my 6233. The games were available as  
downloads from Nokia. The "Secure" part of SD means keeping YOU out.  
Incidentally, downloading from Nokia "requires" you to click through a T&C  
agreement unless you bypass it by manipulating the URL on the download  
button.

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Canopus - 25 Nov 2006 13:22 GMT
>I found that some of the files, such as the games, could not be copied off
>  the 64Meg card that came with my 6233. The games were available as  downloads from Nokia. The "Secure" part of SD means keeping YOU out.  Incidentally, downloading from Nokia "requires" you to click through a T&C  agreement unless you bypass it by manipulating the URL on the download  button.

Thanks Jonathan, I was afraid of that.  When you say they are available as
downloads from Nokia am I right in presuming that they are available as
downloads via ones mobile phone only?  If so that is a path I don't really
want to take as I don't want to enable the costly Internet side of my
phone, I certainly don't need it and t6here are always security issues
that come along with it.

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Jonathan Quirk - 25 Nov 2006 20:05 GMT
>> I found that some of the files, such as the games, could not be copied  
>> off  the 64Meg card that came with my 6233. The games were available  
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> of my phone, I certainly don't need it and t6here are always security  
> issues that come along with it.

Download them on your PC and then transfer them to your card or if you  
have a data cable use PCSuite/Install applications to transfer them. I got  
Rally 3D, Soccer 3D, Presenter and Sensor by downloading them to my PC.
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Canopus - 26 Nov 2006 01:09 GMT
>Download them on your PC and then transfer them to your card or if you  
>have a data cable use PCSuite/Install applications to transfer them. I got
>  Rally 3D, Soccer 3D, Presenter and Sensor by downloading them to my PC.

Those were the four on my card.  Odd that you can download them to your PC
and transfer them to your card, but, not transfer them from one card to
the other both of which belong to you.  I don't really like the Nokia PC
Suite, seems a bit clunky, but, I do have two card readers one with Micro
SD slot the other with SD slot and have the adapter so PC direct to card
seems the easiest way.

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Jonathan Quirk - 26 Nov 2006 10:56 GMT
>> Download them on your PC and then transfer them to your card or if you  
>> have a data cable use PCSuite/Install applications to transfer them. I  
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> Micro SD slot the other with SD slot and have the adapter so PC direct  
> to card seems the easiest way.

It is odd that some git at Nokia has decided to use the SD card's Secure  
function to lock the apps when they are available elsewhere but these left  
hand/ right hand cockups aren't unknown. Nokia PCSuite IS about the  
clunkiest bit of software that will ever grace a PC; strange that a  
company that has the best UI on phones can't get to grips with how to  
produce a PC app. Their Music Manager blows: all the files in, say, My  
Music are lumped in one big listing, no search function, just endless  
scrolling. It can rip a CD to AAC but doesn't use CDDB, you have to  
manually rename the tracks if you want them to show anything other than  
Track1, etc. I keep hoping that some update will reveal that they finally  
got hit with the clue stick but it ain't happened yet.

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Canopus - 26 Nov 2006 11:31 GMT
>It is odd that some git at Nokia has decided to use the SD card's Secure  
>function to lock the apps when they are available elsewhere but these left
>  hand/ right hand cockups aren't unknown. Nokia PCSuite IS about the  clunkiest bit of software that will ever grace a PC; strange that a  company that has the best UI on phones can't get to grips with how to  produce a PC app. Their Music Manager blows: all the files in, say, My  Music are lumped in one big listing, no search function, just endless  scrolling. It can rip a CD to AAC but doesn't use CDDB, you have to  manually rename the tracks if you want them to show anything other than  Track1, etc. I keep hoping that some update will reveal that they finally  got hit with the clue stick but it ain't happened yet.

You'd also think they would include in their PC suite an easy way to
convert 3gp videos to AVI or mpeg.  As it is, unless you are willing to
pay for an application to do it, you have to use two freeware products,
one to convert from 3gp to AVI and the other to convert from AVI to other
formats.  I never realised that PC Suite handled ripping and converting
music in that way, then I've never thought of using it for that as I use
Real Player or Foobar2000 for ripping and converting to mp3 as they both
do an excellent job of it and label them well.  Also just found out that
Real Player can play 3gp video once it downloads the correct codex for
them so between using that and my card readers it looks as if I won't be
using PC Suite too much.

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