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Cellular Phone Forum / Manufacturers / Nokia / December 2007N95 and Satnav software problem ??
Is there any software that is compatible with an N95 that uses the onboard GPS. Garmin, Route66 or any others. TomTom6 does not, until it brings out another version/patch. > Is there any software that is compatible with an N95 that uses the > onboard GPS. Garmin, Route66 or any others. > > TomTom6 does not, until it brings out another version/patch. What's wrong with the built-in Maps software? It's actually very good. Why do you want to complicate things by using third-party software that isn't designed to work with the Nokia GPS hardware? With the Nokia Maps software, I can do just about everything I can do with my mate's TomTom unit, including navigate to an address, look for POIs, etc etc. If I want voice navigation for a time, like I did in New York in the middle of the year, I can just pay $9.95 for a week's worth of that service, straight onto my phone bill. Worked fine. And most of the time I don't need voice nav. So I don't need to pay for it. The Nokia Maps are all free (try that with TomTom, Navman, Garmin etc) for anywhere in the world. Just download them using the Nokia Maploader software, and away you go. Updates? No problem - just re-download the new version with the Maploader program. Beats me why anyone would want to use TomTom software on the N95. It works just fine the way it is. If you want TomTom, then I'd suggest you buy a TomTom unit such as the OneXL or the 720. Or a Garmin. Or a Navman. ;)  SignatureNightStalker >> Is there any software that is compatible with an N95 that uses the >> onboard GPS. Garmin, Route66 or any others. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >buy a TomTom unit such as the OneXL or the 720. Or a Garmin. Or a >Navman. ;) The Nokia maps are fine in some countries, but there are many parts of the world where they are so lacking in detail to be almost useless. I use Google Mobile Maps as an alternative where I live, which also works with the N95 internal GPS. Chris > The Nokia maps are fine in some countries, but there are many parts of > the world where they are so lacking in detail to be almost useless. Have you actually downloaded the maps for these areas? I have been on around the world trips twice this year, including countries like Luxembourg, Hungary, and many others. I downloaded the maps prior to going, and never had a problem. I suppose if you're looking for a street map of Vanuatu or somewhere, then there may be a problem - I haven't tried. But I haven't found a gap in the coverage yet, of any significance. Can you give an example of an area where the maps are so lacking in detail to be almost useless? Not criticising or doubting you - just curious. SignatureNightStalker >> The Nokia maps are fine in some countries, but there are many parts of >> the world where they are so lacking in detail to be almost useless. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >Not criticising or doubting you - just curious. I live in Manila, and the maps of that city only show a few of the major roads, which makes it quite useless for navigating. In other parts of the Philippines outside of the major cities its even worse. I believe the same would be true of any country that doesn't have maps shown as being available under Nokia Map Loader. Chris > I live in Manila, and the maps of that city only show a few of the > major roads, which makes it quite useless for navigating. In other [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Chris And does TomTom, Navman or Garmin have better maps of those areas? If so, then yes - there IS a point in trying to get them to work on the N95. SignatureNightStalker >> I live in Manila, and the maps of that city only show a few of the >> major roads, which makes it quite useless for navigating. In other [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >And does TomTom, Navman or Garmin have better maps of those areas? TomTom has no maps at all for the Philippines. Not sure about the others. Chris On Dec 19, 10:29 am, NightStalker <Nightstal...@somewhere.or.other> wrote: > In article <cucgm3d8n1g5oecev6ec3ji7il58cd6...@4ax.com>, > chris_bl...@spamfence.net says... [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > NightStalker Try New Zealand. I was over there the other month and whilst it guided me along the Auckland Motorway it got very vague whilst travelling in the Bay of Plenty. The Guide couldn't find Queen St in Auckland either which I found amusing at the time as I was driving less than a block from it (and it is the main st in the city CBD). The maps weren't useless, they just weren't accurate enough for a stranger (luckily for me I know the city well enough to ignore the blank spots) I've also had troubles with it in Wichita, KS for some reason. It showed the streets but couldn't find them by name. I've also had troubles in Sydney, Australia. I live here so I know where I'm going, but using the map to go around Woolloomooloo and on to the Harbour Bridge might be a problem for someone who was relying on it solely, as it's a bit wonky! Or to get from Elizabeth Bay to Circular Quay it "uses" a road that doesn't exist! It also tells me that Quay St in Haymarket joins Hay Street which it doesn't. It also can't find some of the newer parts of Stanhope Gardens but we live in hope it will catch up with those sometime this decade (they are only about five or six years old at the moment). Just little things, and I have to admit that I've never found a perfect GPS road system for the city. They are all either slightly out-of-date or add roads where they don't exist (that's an old UBD directory trick), or skip roads. Oh, and I ran into a blank bit of Melbourne last month as well - cannot recall it exactly, but it wasn't somewhere overly obscure, just a laneway off Collins St from memory In article <3c6ca9af-34c8-462d-8ae4-74f7e1e372c5 @e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, mrripcurl@yahoo.com.au says... > On Dec 19, 10:29 am, NightStalker <Nightstal...@somewhere.or.other> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > have to admit that I've never found a perfect GPS road system for the > city. They are all either slightly out-of-date or add roads where they OK - points taken. All good points too. But I have had both Navman and TomTom GPS units, as well as the one in my Toyota Landcruiser Sahara, and the one in my wife's Mercedes. And they have ALL had problems similar to those you describe. The one in my Landcruiser tried to get me to turn into a one-way street the wrong way, it has a blank area between Ipswich and Boonah here in Queensland (neither of which is all that far out of Brisbane). There are numerous non-existent roads on the map, and existing roads that are missing. I have seen this with all of the above-mentioned GPS units. Given that they all buy their maps from third parties, such as Navtech, Whereis, etc etc - then the problem is with the mapping companies. All that TomTom and co do is apply their navigation algorithms to the maps. So I'm not sure how putting TomTom or Garmin software on the N95 is going to help. If you want it to work with the Nokia maps, then the problems you describe above will remain. If you want to put the TomTom maps, for example, on the N95, then that too will have its problems related to the accuracy or otherwise of the underlying maps - Navtech, Whereis, etc. I would suspect - but don't know for sure - that the Nokia maps may be updated somewhat more frequently than the Whereis maps, which are only updated every 2 years, for example. The problems you describe are inherent in the underlying mapping, not the software used to compute the navigation. SignatureNightStalker > In article <3c6ca9af-34c8-462d-8ae4-74f7e1e372c5 > @e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, mrripc...@yahoo.com.au says... [quoted text clipped - 79 lines] > > - Show quoted text - I think NightStalker that it is the other way around with regard to map updating. I'm sure I'll soon be corrected if I'm wrong but Nokia maps don't get updated all that often, and in some cases haven't been updated for years by smart2go (or whatever their name was). Some areas/ countries I believe have been done quite recently, but others haven't. In Oz, whereis claim to have updated most of their areas in the past year (I haven't verified that, I've just taken their word for it), and sensis who actually provide the mapping do so for most of the major software suppliers Except Nokia. Whatever the case, there will always be gaps in most mapping systems that is presumably why some people want multiple mapping systems on their N95 (or whatever) so that hopefully they can switch systems when they run into blank spaces or obviously erroneous data. Greece: Rhodes Island (Rhodes) Knut Norway >> The Nokia maps are fine in some countries, but there are many parts of >> the world where they are so lacking in detail to be almost useless. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Not criticising or doubting you - just curious. > Greece: Rhodes Island (Rhodes) > > Knut > Norway See reply to Chris Blunt above SignatureNightStalker >>What's wrong with the built-in Maps software? It's actually very good. >>Why do you want to complicate things by using third-party software that >>isn't designed to work with the Nokia GPS hardware? > The Nokia maps are fine in some countries, but there are many parts of > the world where they are so lacking in detail to be almost useless. Having used the Tom-Tom maps to drive by, I certainly wouldn't trust their accuracy walking in mountainous terrain. SignatureBrian "Fight like the Devil, die like a gentleman." >>> What's wrong with the built-in Maps software? It's actually very >>> good. Why do you want to complicate things by using third-party [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Having used the Tom-Tom maps to drive by, I certainly wouldn't trust > their accuracy walking in mountainous terrain. But surely they are designed to be used for driving and not for walking... or is that your point? I know you can get special 'walkers' GPS systems that display (what looks like) the UK OS Landranger series of maps... SignatureRegards, Chris. (Remove Elvis's shoes to email me) >> Having used the Tom-Tom maps to drive by, I certainly wouldn't trust >> their accuracy walking in mountainous terrain. > > But surely they are designed to be used for driving and not for walking... > or is that your point? Sort of. I understand they are intended primarily for road use, but finding that the road maps contain some inaccurate information I would not trust them for walking up mountains. > I know you can get special 'walkers' GPS systems that display (what looks > like) the UK OS Landranger series of maps... Yes, a proper tool for the purpose. SignatureBrian "Fight like the Devil, die like a gentleman." > Is there any software that is compatible with an N95 that uses the > onboard GPS. Garmin, Route66 or any others. > > TomTom6 does not, until it brings out another version/patch. Navigon Navigator works with the N95, as does Co-Pilot and Route 66, the sooner TomTom sort out compatability the better though in my opinion. I have a 6110 and tomtom doesn't work with that either. >Is there any software that is compatible with an N95 that uses the >onboard GPS. Garmin, Route66 or any others. > >TomTom6 does not, until it brings out another version/patch. ViewRanger works with the internal GPS and gives you 25k and 50k Ordinance Survey mapping of the UK and 50k National Land Survey maps of Finland . http://www.viewranger.com/vrproductinfo.php > Is there any software that is compatible with an N95 that uses the > onboard GPS. Garmin, Route66 or any others. > > TomTom6 does not, until it brings out another version/patch. Route 66 has the latest version patched, so it works fine with the internal GPS. Route66 version545 can use N95 GPS, but you need to sign the sw before you install it; and N95 nokia map is good, but the navigation is not free you need to pay for that; In article <2dc0a06f-bbeb-4f87-b4bb-70dfeba3c113 @s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, zoulingchen@gmail.com says... > and N95 nokia map is good, but the navigation is not free you need to > pay for that; It's only the voice-guided navigation you have to pay for, when you need it. "Standard" navigation - you need to look at the screen for the route guidance - is free and comes as part of the software. I find that I only need voice-guided navigation very occasionally, and I just pay for a day or a week, straight onto my phone bill. I have the luxury of a wife sitting beside me in the car, and her voice- guided navigation works just fine! :) SignatureNightStalker >Is there any software that is compatible with an N95 that uses the >onboard GPS. Garmin, Route66 or any others. Consider extgps if you would like to use your n-95 gps with a bluetooth connected pda/notebook device. Currently free & in beta, it worked with my tablet pc. http://www.symarctic.com/beta/index.php?category=1 > Is there any software that is compatible with an N95 that uses the > onboard GPS. Garmin, Route66 or any others. > > TomTom6 does not, until it brings out another version/patch. Route66 is very good, use the version545, I am using it now; |
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