Hi folks-
I'm about to change my wireless plan (currently still using ATT's old
Digital One Rate on a 6360). I'm a mobile professional in the US,
wanting to use my phone primarily for voice but some messaging/email is
useful too, as a secondary application.
I'm looking at these two options:
1. Sticking with ATT, but switching to their GSM network, and getting a
Nokia 6820. Seems like a nice phone. Requirements for me are the
speakerphone and the bluetooth connectivity for headset use; the flip
out keypad looks cool but I wonder how useful it is in real life? And,
is this phone robust? It WILL be dropped occasionally. My 6360 has a
cracked screen but is otherwise OK after 2 years of hard use.
2. Switching to Verizon Wireless and getting a Motorola V710, which also
has speakerphone and bluetooth. I've heard very good things about
Verizon's coverage and customer service. However, after the network
integration of ATT/Cingular, I wonder who the better player will be,
coverage wise.
Right now it's annoying because there's almost no signal (ATT TDMA) at
my house, so my phone has never been much use here, despite being smack
dab in the middle of a city of 100,000 people.
Cost wise, going the Verizon with the V710 will cost about $100 more
than the ATT/6820 option, PLUS whatever the cancellation fee for ATT is;
haven't researched that part of it yet.
Either way, I'll be saving > $40/month in service fees, and probably
getting better coverage either way I go.
Any thoughts?
Marc
John Phillips - 26 Sep 2004 04:03 GMT
> 2. Switching to Verizon Wireless and getting a Motorola V710, which also
> has speakerphone and bluetooth. I've heard very good things about
> Verizon's coverage and customer service. However, after the network
> integration of ATT/Cingular, I wonder who the better player will be,
> coverage wise.
If you travel outside the USA no question, go GSM (world standard) and get a
tri band or quad band phone.
CDMA phones are always locked to one network; GSM is either supplied locked,
or can easily be unlocked, so you have a choice.

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MAG - 26 Sep 2004 06:01 GMT
> > 2. Switching to Verizon Wireless and getting a Motorola V710, which also
> > has speakerphone and bluetooth. I've heard very good things about
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> CDMA phones are always locked to one network; GSM is either supplied locked,
> or can easily be unlocked, so you have a choice.
Thanks for the thoughts. Other than Canada, I don't do international
travel so the phone's ability to travel well around the globe isn't a
factor.
I think the V710 is CDMA; isn't that the older standard? I like the idea
of investing in newer technology, so long as I'm not on the bleeding
edge.
I've read some bad things about the V710 and its bluetooth support (not
quite fully baked yet), so I'm leaning towards sticking with ATT and
going for the 6820. But I'm still interested to hear opinions and
thoughts.
Thanks all.
Marc
Ian McMillan - 26 Sep 2004 12:15 GMT
MAG <Somebody@somewhere.com> wrote in message
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> 1. Sticking with ATT, but switching to their GSM network, and getting
> a Nokia 6820. Seems like a nice phone. Requirements for me are the
> speakerphone and the bluetooth connectivity for headset use; the flip
> out keypad looks cool but I wonder how useful it is in real life?
> And, is this phone robust? It WILL be dropped occasionally. My 6360
> has a cracked screen but is otherwise OK after 2 years of hard use.
Hi,
Being in the UK, I can't comment on the different types of networks and
plans you have, however I confirm the 6820 is quite a sturdy phone, but the
keyboard becomes more of a novelty than a requirement, but I am quite good
with T9 so maybe this is why. The 6360 looks similar to what we know as the
6310i, I can confirm the 6820 is sturdier than this.
Another phone to consider is the 6230, if it is available there.

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Paul H. van Rossem - 26 Sep 2004 20:17 GMT
Hi Marc,
I can't comment on your network, but I have some experience with the 6820.
I like the keyboard, since it's full qwerty, but I'm lucky to have have
small fingers (you certainly need that). The screen is not very robust,
it went dead on my first knock, and it is rather small.
I find the reception very good (triband).
The software is not very good. The phone has a memory of 3.5 Mbyte, but
only a small portion can be used for contacts, agenda, todo's. Store
a few repeating appointments, and the phone complains it's full! The
same for todo's, it can store just a few of them. So, for business
use it's totally useless. You can use lots of memory for video clips
and pictures, but then the camera's resolution is not that usefull.
The bluetooth connection to the accompaning PC Suite is very unstable,
sometimes you can connect, sometimes not. There are lots of complaints
about that in this newsgroup, but Nokia doesn't care about that. The
helpdesk doesn't want to discuss it, so I assume there is some kind
of fundamental problem that they are unwilling to solve.
Regards, Paul.
> Hi folks-
>
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> Marc
Gushter - 28 Sep 2004 12:35 GMT
"Paul H. van Rossem" <paul@timeware.nl> wrote in message news:<415715b9$0$568> I can't comment on your network, but I have some experience with the 6820.
> I like the keyboard, since it's full qwerty, but I'm lucky to have have
> small fingers (you certainly need that). The screen is not very robust,
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>
> Regards, Paul.
Let me add my experience with the 6820. I love the phone and the
keyboard. I am pretty good with T9 (it is great for single hand
typing when driving for example :) but I always prefer the fold out
keyboard. I would say that it is about 3x faster for the average
user. For me, this was the deciding factor against the 6230.
The phone has excellent looks and supports all type of messaging. Now,
it is not a PDA so if you have a busy calendar then you are better off
to add a small iPaq to your inventory. However for short trips (2-3
days) it would be perfect. You can change the syncronization options
to have it only sync 2 weeks ahead and then it does not run out of
memory as often.
The camera is average for a phone but the software is quite decent.
Get it flashed to v4.25, it includes many fixes and faster speed. You
can view and ZOOM large pictures, up to 1024x768 which I find quite
useful (I sync the pictures from my iPaq or laptop, the internal
camera is only CIF).
Paul is right about the sync software, it is just temparamental. You
need to try 2-3 times before it syncs properly. Try using the Oxygen
Phone Manager instead, it is nicer.
I drop my phone on a regular basis and it still works perfectly.
Good luck, I hope you enjoy it.
Vassil