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Sprint Pushing Crap Again -- TV over Cellphone

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MTG - 14 Nov 2003 01:02 GMT
Um.  Will someone tell me why they are pushing this sh.t instead of making
Vision what it should and could be?

Who in the hell makes decisions for this company????

http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/C/CELL_PHONE_TV?SITE=TXSAE&SECTION=
BUSINESS&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

Sprint Adding TV Service for Cell Phones

By BRUCE MEYERSON
AP Business Writer

NEW YORK (AP) -- Sprint Corp. is adding a television service for cell phones
with real-time programs, albeit somewhat choppy, from cable networks
including CNBC and ABC News.

The new MobiTV service, available starting Thursday, will cost $9.99 per
month in addition to the monthly fee of $15 that Sprint subscribers pay to
use the Internet data connection on their mobile phones. Other networks
featured on the service include MSNBC, Discovery Channel and The Learning
Channel.

Although the audio for MobiTV programs will play in a continuous stream, the
cell phone screen will not display the equivalent of full-motion video like
that seen on a real television. Instead, the video will play at a rate of
one or two frames per second, as compared with more than 20 frames per
second for real TV.

The programs on most of the MobiTV channels will be identical to the actual
programs playing at that hour on the corresponding cable channels, although
with a lag of perhaps a minute due to the time it takes to process and
transmit the content for a wireless device.

The announcement brings at least one cellular carrier a step closer to
transforming the over-hyped concept of next-generation wireless services to
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Multimedia services such as Web browsing, music and video have been held up
by limitations in the capabilities of both handsets and wireless networks.
But ongoing improvements in the phones and network technology are now
enabling richer content.

Still, both Sprint and MobiTV provider Idetic Inc. were careful to not to
set expectations for the new service too high.

"This isn't the kind of thing where you're going to watch a movie, but it is
the kind of thing where the frame rate is fine" for viewing a program such
as a newscast, said Paul Scanlan, a co-founder of Idetic. He also cautioned
that normal limitations of mobile phone use will still apply.

"It's still cell phone technology, so just like you may get disconnected on
a phone call, you could lose the program. If you don't have good reception
for a phone call, you're not going to be able to get good reception (for
MobiTV)."

While wireless technology is expected to improve enough to provide
full-motion streaming video as soon as next year, some handset makers are
also trying to bring video to cell phones without the cellular network:
Samsung is due to introduce a cell phone with a TV tuner inside that can
pick up local television channels over the broadcast airwaves.
Bob Smith - 14 Nov 2003 12:50 GMT
> Um.  Will someone tell me why they are pushing this sh.t instead of making
> Vision what it should and could be?
>
> Who in the hell makes decisions for this company????

http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/C/CELL_PHONE_TV?SITE=TXSAE&SECTION=
> BUSINESS&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

Meta, you are a day late and a dollar short in posting this. What's more,
you comment above about Vision, yet you don't further qualify what you think
Vision should or could be. Why don't you enlighten us as to what Vision
should or could be ...

Bob
MTG - 14 Nov 2003 15:40 GMT
> > Um.  Will someone tell me why they are pushing this sh.t instead of making
> > Vision what it should and could be?
> >
> > Who in the hell makes decisions for this company????

http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/C/CELL_PHONE_TV?SITE=TXSAE&SECTION=
> > BUSINESS&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Bob

to start, something that works more than half the time.  I don't know how
many times i get browser errors looking at sports scores

speed.  my old skool 1200 baud modem pulled up sh.t faster than VISION

you would think that the above are well within reason...
Thomas T. Veldhouse - 14 Nov 2003 16:18 GMT
> Um.  Will someone tell me why they are pushing this sh.t instead of making
> Vision what it should and could be?
>
> Who in the hell makes decisions for this company????

http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/C/CELL_PHONE_TV?SITE=TXSAE&SECTION=
> BUSINESS&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

Geeze ... not to hard to figure out your opinion on this, is it?  BTW,
posting the link was adequate, hardly a need to post the entire article
(which is a copyrighted work).

It is clear to me that this is about being an industry leader.  Verizon not
only doesn't have this yet, but I have not even heard of a rumor.  Vision is
a little slow on my A500, but it is usable.  I suspect this has a bit to do
with my phone (probably low memory and the browser could use enhancing) and
a little less to do with the service.  So, that is your answer.  Enhancing
Vision is not likely going to affect a huge number of people (if you phone
is the limitting factor, it won't likely help you at all) and it will likely
only benefit existing customers.  With number portability only 10 days away,
pushing a new product that Sprint's competitors do not have is likely a much
better business move right now.

Tom Veldhouse
SprintPCS Sucks!!! - 14 Nov 2003 22:23 GMT
> > Um.  Will someone tell me why they are pushing this sh.t instead of making
> > Vision what it should and could be?
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> posting the link was adequate, hardly a need to post the entire article
> (which is a copyrighted work).
[...]

It's fair use, since this forum is made up of people that have a
direct interest in that news. Secondly, ap will take it down in a few
months and someone coming back to look at this thread later wouldn't
be able to see the article via URL. This wouldn't be a concern, if
these media companies left thier content up for good.

sprintpcs_sucks
SprintPCS Sucks!!! - 14 Nov 2003 22:27 GMT
> Um.  Will someone tell me why they are pushing this sh.t instead of making
> Vision what it should and could be?
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/C/CELL_PHONE_TV?SITE=TXSAE&SECTION=
> BUSINESS&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

I think a bunch of idiots make decisions for SprintPCS.

They keep pushing these crappy multimedia services that no ones really
needs. At the same time they can't even address critical
infrastructure flaws along major interstates. I don't know whay anyone
would want to oen the stock.

All I want is nice, clean and unfiltered high-speed IP access to the
Internet to go with my regular cell service. Vision sucks. This tv
service is moronic to say the least.

f.ck, when will these retards wake up and give consumers what they
need and desire?

sprintpcs_sucks
JRW - 16 Nov 2003 00:32 GMT
> f.ck, when will these retards wake up and give consumers what they
> need and desire?

They are! They provide what what sells the most! And that would be
camera phones, swappable faceplates, catchy melodies for ringers, etc..

Overheard in a Cingular reseller's store - "I just want a cool phone."

But I know what you really mean...goood coverage to start off with.
paul@wren.cc.kux.edu - 15 Nov 2003 13:44 GMT
>Um.  Will someone tell me why they are pushing this sh.t instead of making
>Vision what it should and could be?

Once the EV-DV standards are set and vendors start building equipment
for it, speeds will get much faster (Nokia and Ericsson are already
testing it, with SprintPCS doing the test validations and
verifications). Public press releases by Sprint still indicate EV-DV
over the entire network coverage, not just two or 6 cities.

>Who in the hell makes decisions for this company????

Korean carriers are making big bucks from these sorts of services.
You're faulting Sprint PCS for trying???

>http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/C/CELL_PHONE_TV?SITE=TXSAE&SECTION=
>BUSINESS&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
>
>Sprint Adding TV Service for Cell Phones
tom ronson - 16 Nov 2003 00:10 GMT
paul@wren.cc.kux.edu wrote in message

> Korean carriers are making big bucks from these sorts of services.
> You're faulting Sprint PCS for trying???

So where's Sprint's SMS then? It's been a year since it was hinted at,
but yet nothing but hot air supplied to the customers to this point.

And really, don't you think adding high bandwidth apps to a network
that's not always that swift to begin with is a good use of resources?

I don't care about either of these mentioned apps, however, but would
like to see Sprint do something with location based services --- after
all, they did a deal with mapquest months ago and not even a rumor of
providing a truly useful app.

  --tr
 
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