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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / Sprint PCS / January 2004SCAMMING the SprintPCS referral program.
is this legal ? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3074733893&category=15 941 I don't think so, wouldn't it be fun to send this on to sprint and see what they think, it'd get a good laugh out of me. > is this legal ? > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3074733893&category=15 > 941 > is this legal ? > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3074733893&category=15 > 941 Probably not. Those people did not refer those new customers. Sounds like a good case of fraud against the retailer. I'm surprised that eBay hasn't taken down the site yet. Bob I doubt it. Good catch. ;-) Scotty > is this legal ? > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3074733893&category=15 > 941 "Robert M." <rmarkoff@msn.com> wrote in news:rmarkoff- 1E3022.08245128012004@news05.west.earthlink.net: > is this legal ? > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3074733893&category=15 > 941 Don't know - You tell us, Mr. Black Ice. What you don't say in your auction is that you can only ref once a month,and at the end of 4 months,the other #'s are bound to be already reffed. And this jerk-off has posted *more* of his damn referral scam auctions, and ebay hasn't shut him down yet, O/Sirus, can you get this over to Fraud Management? or Corp. Security? If he's really a dealer, he needs to be shut down. > "Robert M." <rmarkoff@msn.com> wrote in news:rmarkoff- > 1E3022.08245128012004@news05.west.earthlink.net: > > > is this legal ? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3074733893&category=15 > > 941 > > Don't know - You tell us, Mr. Black Ice. > What you don't say in your auction is that you can only ref once a > month,and at the end of 4 months,the other #'s are bound to be already > reffed. In article <9q3Sb.19178$ph3.15947 @newssvr25.news.prodigy.com>, Terry Knabtk@nospam4meknab.org says... > And this jerk-off has posted *more* of his damn referral scam auctions, and > ebay hasn't shut him down yet, O/Sirus, can you get this over to Fraud > Management? or Corp. Security? If he's really a dealer, he needs to be > shut down. I'm definitely seeing what is to be done about this.  Signature-+- RX_ O/Siris I work for SprintPCS I *don't* speak for them. > In article <9q3Sb.19178$ph3.15947 > @newssvr25.news.prodigy.com>, Terry [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > I'm definitely seeing what is to be done about this. I am neither defending or encouraging what he is doing---but if you check the feedback on that item, no one is complaining; Unless you have been harmed by the process, why do you really care--you can't have fraud unless someone has been defrauded----it's just taking advantage of the system--I have referred numerous people to sprint over the years, and the $20 is a little incentive to do so---if the guy is a dealer, he probably has multiple lines of phones he can offer a customer---if he can make a little extra money by pushing a sprint service over another carrier, hasn't this accomplished sprints goal of activating more phones----Personally, I am skeptical of the scheme, but again, read his positive feedback-- > O/Siris <0s?r?s@spr?ntpcs.c?m> wrote in message news:<MPG.1a82a27469ced8a59899cc@netnews.comcast.net>... > > In article <9q3Sb.19178$ph3.15947 > > @newssvr25.news.prodigy.com>, Terry [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > of activating more phones----Personally, I am skeptical of the scheme, > but again, read his positive feedback-- IMHO, Screw the positive feedback ...! None of those folks have physically referred the new customers to SPCS. What's more, there is fraud. The fraud is by doing these false referrals. Most of have provided referrals and received the $20 credit on our bills, but it was with people we actually knew or spoke to. The new phone numbers are being supplied by a 3rd party with no contact between the two customers. Bob > > O/Siris <0s?r?s@spr?ntpcs.c?m> wrote in message > news:<MPG.1a82a27469ced8a59899cc@netnews.comcast.net>... [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > but it was with people we actually knew or spoke to. The new phone numbers > are being supplied by a 3rd party with no contact between the two customers. I wouldn't want my information being given out to complete strangers. He's probably hiding behind some marketing allowance. Either way I'm sure Sprint would like to know if one of their vendors or affiliates is doing this. The referral has to be done sooner than 4 mos after activation, anyway. > "Robert M." <rmarkoff@msn.com> wrote in news:rmarkoff- > 1E3022.08245128012004@news05.west.earthlink.net: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >and at the end of 4 months,the other #'s are bound to be already > reffed. Legal - not sure, it is a referral program with loose rules... Conflict of interest...yes. He's a retailer, or works for one. Look at www.blackicehaven.com (He's into fatasy art, his previous eBay name indicated something like that as well) Bottm left menu link, TRICOM WIRELESS, now the link is dead, hasnt been input yet, but it is a dead giveaway. Search Tricom wireless on Yahoo and they are a Sprint partnered retail in the Domiinican Republic. Someone needs to take his deal and find out where the numbers he gives you for referral are out of. I bet its then Dom Rep. It shouldn't take them long to get him. Ebay will probably release his info to Sprint as their is a clear indication of fraud, even if not "illegal" in public law terms. Ebay doesnt care to support these deals and further a fraud, besides at $20 they arent getting a big percentage off of this guy and certainly have bigger fish to fry. Q > "Robert M." <rmarkoff@msn.com> wrote in news:rmarkoff- > 1E3022.08245128012004@news05.west.earthlink.net: > > > is this legal ? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3074733893&category=15 > > 941 > > Don't know - You tell us, Mr. Black Ice. > What you don't say in your auction is that you can only ref once a > month,and at the end of 4 months,the other #'s are bound to be already > reffed. From the Whois database: Registrant: Black Ice Haven 3439 Arroyo Seco Ave Los Angeles, CA 90065 US Domain name: BLACKICEHAVEN.COM Administrative Contact: Cypher, John blackicehaven@hotmail.com 3439 Arroyo Seco Ave Los Angeles, CA 90065 US 213-999-9936 Fax: 323-222-9986 A scan of the telcodata base shows the phone # listed is/was a VERIZON wireless number. Can you hear us now!? > Legal - not sure, it is a referral program with loose rules... > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > month,and at the end of 4 months,the other #'s are bound to be already > > reffed. |
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