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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / Sprint PCS / March 2004new sprint phone "sprint v1600" questions?
Hi all, I saw the 'sprint v1600' non-flip phone appear on sprint's website last week. Does anyone have any experience with this phone? Who is it made by? I know that the samsungs,LGs, don't seem to get the best of reception, so i was wondering who is making this one? Randy > Hi all, > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Randy There was a whole thread last week about this Audiovox phone, with some of us wondering why it's listed as a SprintPCS phone rather than a SprintPCS Audiovox phone. And of course the blind SprintPCS apologists chimed in as they view it as not politically correct to ever ask a question of Sprint. > > I saw the 'sprint v1600' non-flip phone appear on sprint's website > > last week. Does anyone have any experience with this phone? Who is it > > made by? I know that the samsungs,LGs, don't seem to get the best of > > reception, so i was wondering who is making this one? > There was a whole thread last week about this Audiovox phone, with > some of us wondering why it's listed as a SprintPCS phone rather than > a SprintPCS Audiovox phone..\ I saw that thread and was surprised to hear it was an AudioVox. The SPCS who does the ordering at our store told me it was a Samsung. > the blind SprintPCS apologists This from the hypocrite who claims insults are childish.  SignatureRØß O/Siris I work for Sprint PCS I *don't* speak for them > > the blind SprintPCS apologists > > This from the hypocrite who claims insults are childish. Or the embarressment of SprintPCS. > > > the blind SprintPCS apologists > > > > This from the hypocrite who claims insults are childish. > > Or the embarressment of SprintPCS. No- the embarrassment to Sprint is the dumbass that allowed you to sign up for service. It's actually the VI-600. It's an Audiovox phone (posted clearly on the box but nowhere else) and I'm currently testing it. I disagree with the lone review on PhoneScoop and will post mine soon. I think the sound quality--both directions--is very good; earpiece volume is excellent and easily controlled. It's small and lightweight, yet solid feeling. Reception is very good, although the signal meter registers much lower than other SPCS phones. For example, in my house the Nokia 3588i indicates greater signal strength, but the VI-600 actually performs better. No camera; don't care. Ringer volumes are too weak, even at max setting. The speakerphone is OK, not stellar. Battery life is regrettably shorter than some other SPCS phones, but if you can charge frequently you might be able to live with that. Frankly I'm not thrilled with the battery life (normal, not extended) of color CDMA phones in general. I'm still investigating other features: voice services, data, Vision, etc. This could take a while because no data cable is currently available. Overall, after using it as a voice phone for a bit less than a week, I like it. Style-wise, it's a welcome, appropriately priced addition to the Sprint wireless phone line-up. > I saw the 'sprint v1600' non-flip phone appear on sprint's website >last week. Does anyone have any experience with this phone? Who is it >made by? I know that the samsungs,LGs, don't seem to get the best of >reception, so i was wondering who is making this one? ---------------------------- To email me, remove the zz. > Hi all, > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Randy In a nutshell, Sprint is going to a new naming system, instead of seeing 5+ different manufacturers for their products Sprint is naming all the devices "Sprint XXX handset". There is kinda a coding to go with it; VI - Vision access VGA - Still camera & Vision Access VM - "Video Mail" (all the features of a VGA and camcorder features) RL - ReadyLink & Vision This doesn't always work - we have the VM4500 which also has readylink. It's just marketing. > > Hi all, > > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > It's just marketing. It's also a pain in the a.s, as when the ESN is loaded in our systems, it shows the manufacturer's name, not Sprint's rename. So you have us calling it one thing, and the customer's calling it a different thing. Especially annoying with the VM4500 vs the original Sanyo 4500 (and yes there are still a lot of those in use. I saw 3 in a 4 hour shift today alone.) I gave up trying to remember which new name goes with which old name, I need my brain cells for more important information ;) I do at least remember VI is Vision, RL Ready Link, etc, I just can't remember the numbers for each model to save my life. Leisa > the original Sanyo 4500 (and yes there are still > a lot of those in use. I saw 3 in a 4 hour shift today alone. Ahhh. The Sanyo 4500. At one time it was the subject of one of Sprint's secret recalls. The Speaker phone didnt work right in the 4500, and IF ONE COMPLAINED, you got a free replacement of a Sanyo 4700. And before one of the SprintPCS apologists say "you don't know that", let me say, yes I do, as SprintPCS took two 4500's back and gave me two 4700's for free. My other favorite Secret recall was the Samsung Black 8500 which wouldnt do Analog, but would be replaced for free with a Silver 8500 IF ONE COMPLAINED. Guess what, I got swapped on those too. > > the original Sanyo 4500 (and yes there are still > > a lot of those in use. I saw 3 in a 4 hour shift today alone. > > Ahhh. The Sanyo 4500. At one time it was the subject of one of Sprint's > secret recalls. The Speaker phone didnt work right in the 4500, and IF > ONE COMPLAINED, you got a free replacement of a Sanyo 4700. So, if you had a problem with the phone, they replaced it? Boy, I'd bitch up a storm about that- how dare they replace faulty equipment. > And before one of the SprintPCS apologists say "you don't know that", > let me say, yes I do, as SprintPCS took two 4500's back and gave me two > 4700's for free. And the problem with that was....? > My other favorite Secret recall was the Samsung Black 8500 which wouldnt > do Analog, but would be replaced for free with a Silver 8500 IF ONE > COMPLAINED. Guess what, I got swapped on those too. Again, they replaced it. If you didn't need analog, it was a pretty good phone. > > Ahhh. The Sanyo 4500. At one time it was the subject of one of Sprint's > > secret recalls. The Speaker phone didnt work right in the 4500, and IF > > ONE COMPLAINED, you got a free replacement of a Sanyo 4700. > > So, if you had a problem with the phone, they replaced it? Boy, I'd bitch > up a storm about that- how dare they replace faulty equipment. Well, he has to find something to complain about. Just because they swapped him for a different model, according to him, makes it a "secret recall". Let's completely ignore the fact that the 4500 factor was upgraded with 3G voice making the 4700. We were given the option then to warranty replace 4500s with 4700s. Why? 4700s were able to utilize the 3G voice features, most of which the customer wouldn't see, but it enabled higher cel site capacity, along with a few other network optomizations. I find his comments really funny since the 4500 and the 4700 were the same phone, it's like comparing the Sanyo 4900 with the Sanyo 7200. Same phone, just slightly different software and minimal hardware difference (with the exception of the casing). It also takes a lot more than just coming into the store and complaining about a phone to get it replaced. They need to look up the warranty information, see if it a legitimate issue, and if it is covered under the warranty. Interesting how Richard M / Phil loves to derail most threads into a flame war with his "it happened once or twice, so it always happens" attitude. > Well, he has to find something to complain about. Just because they > swapped him for a different model, according to him, makes it a > "secret recall". Never mind the fact that the words are mutually exclusive. > It also takes a lot more than just coming into the store and > complaining about a phone to get it replaced. They need to look up > the warranty information, see if it a legitimate issue, and if it is > covered under the warranty. And that's where he comes up with his secret- the company is aware that a certain model MAY have issues, and notifies its employees that the issue MAY exist. To Phil, its a big secret, because they don't issue a press release shouting the problem to the masses. > Interesting how Richard M / Phil loves to derail most threads into a > flame war with his "it happened once or twice, so it always happens" > attitude. And if it weren't for the facts that he repeats his rants ad nauseum, and spouts lies that could lead a newbie to the group down the wrong path, I wouldn't give a crap about him. But I do have a problem with someone using the anonymity of Usenet to purposely lie about a company, no matter what company it is. Being the little weasel that he is, he purposely lies without regard for anyone but himself (another peeve of mine- the 'me me me me' syndrome). The fact that his lies could ultimately have a negative affect on others goes way over his head. > > the original Sanyo 4500 (and yes there are still > > a lot of those in use. I saw 3 in a 4 hour shift today alone. > > Ahhh. The Sanyo 4500. At one time it was the subject of one of Sprint's > secret recalls. The Speaker phone didnt work right in the 4500, and IF > ONE COMPLAINED, you got a free replacement of a Sanyo 4700. And you call myself and O/Sirus a liar? There was no such recall. I had a 4500 for over a year and didn't have a problem. Also, if this was always going on, how did we replace it with a 4700 before it was released? > And before one of the SprintPCS apologists say "you don't know that", > let me say, yes I do, as SprintPCS took two 4500's back and gave me two > 4700's for free. My god, they gave you a WARRANTY REPLACEMENT. How horrible of them. You just complain about anything and everything you can. There were other reasons as for replacing 4500s with 4700s. The 4700 was going to be 3G VOICE (not data) capable, thus making the network run smoother, so if a 4500 needed a warranty replacement, we were allowed to replace it with a 4700. Other than the 3G VOICE (not data), they were essentialy the same phone. > My other favorite Secret recall was the Samsung Black 8500 which wouldnt > do Analog, but would be replaced for free with a Silver 8500 IF ONE > COMPLAINED. Guess what, I got swapped on those too. Oh my god, they did another warranty replacement. According to you, there is a "secret recall" on every handset ever sold my Sprint PCS. Your issues didn't affect 100% of the handsets, and just because it has a warranty, doesn't mean there is a "secret recall" on it. Not only that, it doesn't just take a complaint to get a warranty replacement, the tech has to look at it to see if the issue is covered under warranty (and if there is an issue). Of course, you'll deny that and I'll chalk it up as you just went in crying like a baby, so they noted your account as such, and just swapped you out just to shut you up. Every new phone Sprint sells has a ONE YEAR warranty. Something goes wrong with it that is covered, we'll replace it with either the same model, or something comparable. > > > the original Sanyo 4500 (and yes there are still > > > a lot of those in use. I saw 3 in a 4 hour shift today alone. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > > And you call myself and O/Sirus a liar? There was no such recall. Thats not what I was told at the time that SprintPCS gave me a free replacement of two Sanyo 4700s, because the 4500 had a known problem in speakerphone mode. Was SprintPCS lying to me at the time? > Oh my god, they did another warranty replacement. According to you, > there is a "secret recall" on every handset ever sold my Sprint PCS. Now there is a total lie. I never said every handset, you are just trying hard to coverup for the SECRET WARRANTIES that SprintPSC has, which was previously admitted to by a former SprintPCS employee: From: 3G Geek (rolling@stones.com) Subject: Re: 8100 - shattered screen View Newsgroups: alt.cellular.sprintpcs Date: 2003-10-11 08:46:42 PST It's not a secret list... we just have a list of things that are under investigation or have been proven to be "known issues" with certain phones. If a customer calls in and says their screen is blank or it is getting hot for example, we check this list and find out if it is known with that phone. If it is, we tell them and they can go get it replaced. It is not every one of that model either, it may just be a certain range of ESN's or ones that were distributed between certain dates. I don't feel I can give a list of this because I don't know if it is proprietary or not... if I find that it is not and I can give that information without getting fired, I will be happy to. Thats what I call a SECRET LIST of phones for which there is a SECRET WARRANTY. You may now apologize for your lies. > Now there is a total lie. I never said every handset, you are just > trying hard to coverup for the SECRET WARRANTIES that SprintPSC has, > which was previously admitted to by a former SprintPCS employee: Funny- the manufacturer's warranty states that the unit is covered. Your previous posts say it was covered for you. Where's the secret? > From: 3G Geek (rolling@stones.com) > Subject: Re: 8100 - shattered screen View [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Thats what I call a SECRET LIST of phones for which there is a SECRET > WARRANTY. That is what I call a list of phones with known issues- not all phones of that model will experience the problem, but some may, and if they do, Sprint replaced it. It wasn't made publicly known, because people like you (who are always looking for something for nothing) would abuse the program if it were public knowledge. This is a standard business practice that reaches across all consumer industries. You've been asked numerous times to provide the name of one provider that makes these known issues public, and to date have not named one. Quit your whining and shut up. > Thats what I call a SECRET LIST of phones for which there is a SECRET > WARRANTY. > > You may now apologize for your lies. First of all, there's no "secret warranty". Each phone, either in the manual or on a pamphlet, explains, in full detail, the warranty on the phone, including what is covered and what is not. How can something that is written and distributed with each phone a secret? Second, so far you've claimed that there has been a "secret recall" on the Samsung 8500 and the Sanyo 4500. There was no such thing. There are warranty issues, yes. That is why they give a ONE YEAR WARRANTY with each phone. A "recall" would involve going out and notifying all the affected users that something would seriously affect their phone. ANd like I've said many times, every piece of electronics out there today has a warranty, if you have an issue with that is covered by the warranty, they'll repair or replace the unit. There is nothing secretive about it. Who's lying? Obviously you are. > A "recall" would involve going out and notifying all the affected > users that something would seriously affect their phone. SprintPCS is not customer friendly enough to do that, even though the lack of Analog capability in the Black Samsung 8500 qualifies as a serious potenital safety issue. A SECRET recall does not invlove notifying everyone, and saves the company money regardless of damage it might due to customers. It involves automatically replacing the phone IF THE CUSTOMER COMPLAINS. Thats what a high SprintPCS muckty-muck told me at the time. Was I lied to by SprintPCS, when the replaced my Sanyo 4500 for having a designb defect in its speakerphone? Was I lied to when my Black Samsung 8500 was replaced with a Gray Samsung 8500 because of a design defect prevented it from working in Analog mode? There was no recall. There was a secret recall. Phones were removed from stores, phones were replaced for customers IF THEY COMPLAINED. > There was no recall. There was a secret recall. Phones were removed from > stores, phones were replaced for customers IF THEY COMPLAINED. Yeah- its called a warranty replacement. How long is the air tube to your head, Phil? Did the proctologist charge a lot to install it? Don't worry, Tech- you guys must have on double secret probation when they made the internal announcement. > First of all, there's no "secret warranty" > Who's lying? Obviously you are. Why did you omit the Google evidence proving you wrong? Each Sprint store has secret lists of phones with known issues for which a free replacement phone will be given IF THE CUSTOMER ASKS. Like the Sanyo 4500 or the Samsung 8500. By any standard use of the English language thats a SECRET LIST. And your continual refusal to admit such is the same as lying. AGAIN from GOOGLE: From: 3G Geek (rolling@stones.com) Subject: Re: 8100 - shattered screen View Newsgroups: alt.cellular.sprintpcs Date: 2003-10-11 08:46:42 PST It's not a secret list... we just have a list of things that are under investigation or have been proven to be "known issues" with certain phones. If a customer calls in and says their screen is blank or it is getting hot for example, we check this list and find out if it is known with that phone. If it is, we tell them and they can go get it replaced. It is not every one of that model either, it may just be a certain range of ESN's or ones that were distributed between certain dates. I don't feel I can give a list of this because I don't know if it is proprietary or not... if I find that it is not and I can give that information without getting fired, I will be happy to. ================================================================= Thats what I call a SECRET LIST of phones for which there is a SECRET WARRANTY. Semantic games : defective phones = known issues willing to replace = secret warranty > > First of all, there's no "secret warranty" > > Who's lying? Obviously you are. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > By any standard use of the English language thats a SECRET LIST. No its not- its an internal list. THat would be the proper English term for it. > And your continual refusal to admit such is the same as lying. No- its called normal business practice. You being abnormal would not understand that. > AGAIN from GOOGLE: > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > it is proprietary or not... if I find that it is not and I can give that > information without getting fired, I will be happy to. And it says that it is not a secret list. Thanks for reminding us. > By any standard use of the English language thats a SECRET LIST. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Thats what I call a SECRET LIST of phones for which there is a SECRET > WARRANTY. You say it's a secret list, yet your own quote states it's not a secret list. I just love it when you contradict yourself in a single post. Like I said, it's a WARRANTY. Look at the paperwork that came with your phone, you'll see a WARRANTY secion explaining in full detail what is covered and what isn't. You refused to answer my question posted earler (well, you refuse to answer all my questions), how can something that is included with each phone, printed in English, be a secret? > In a nutshell, > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > It's just marketing. You making this up as you go along? Every other phone also lists its manufacturer. Except for this Audiovox one. CASE IN POINT: the even newer Nokia 6225 which was falsely claimed to be available last week was listed by Manufacturer. i.e. Nokia 6225 it wasnt called a Sprint VGA6225 > You making this up as you go along? Every other > phone also lists its manufacturer. Except for [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > it wasnt called a Sprint VGA6225 Didn't realize that the name on the outside of the phone affected performance. That would be the only reason I could think of for you having such a hissy fit about this. Or, maybe its just because you are a whiney bitch. Wonder which one it is? > You making this up as you go along? Every other > phone also lists its manufacturer. Except for [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > it wasnt called a Sprint VGA6225 No, but you are making it up. Sprint VGA1000 by Samsung Sprint VM4500 by Sanyo Sprint RL2500 by Sanyo Sprint VM4050 by Toshiba 3588i by Nokia If you'd like to see the full list it is on SprintPCS's product page Now, your Nokia statment, was it Nokia 6225 or the Sprint PM6225 by Nokia? > > You making this up as you go along? Every other > > phone also lists its manufacturer. Except for [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Now, your Nokia statment, was it Nokia 6225 or the Sprint PM6225 by Nokia? Can't tell where the word Nokia was used, the press release was is no longer on the web site. Was the VI660 called the SprintPCS VI660 by Audiovox? if not, then your claims fall apart. > > > You making this up as you go along? Every other > > > phone also lists its manufacturer. Except for [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Can't tell where the word Nokia was used, the press release was is no > longer on the web site. Hmmm, just lost my list of filters and ole Phillipe's post popped right up ... as to a link, it's still loaded up on the web - http://finance.myway.com/jsp/nw/nwdt_ge.jsp?news_id=cmt-082p4115&feed=cmt&date=2 0040322 In it, the model was called Sprint PCS Vision(SM) Picture Phone PM-6225 by Nokia and a shortened version - Nokia PM-6225 Bob ::Hoping Phillipe will get off these useless arguments of his ... Hell, I'm hoping he crawls back under that rock he came from:: > Bob ::Hoping Phillipe will get off these useless arguments of his ... Hell, > I'm hoping he crawls back under that rock he came from:: I think I saw a picture of that rock a couple of weeks ago- one of the Mars Explorers was drilling into it. > Was the VI660 called the SprintPCS VI660 by Audiovox? if not, then your > claims fall apart. The self-proclaimed never-wrong Word According to Phillie has now declared that a Samsung phone was made by Audiovox. SignatureRØß O/Siris I work for Sprint PCS I *don't* speak for them |
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