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Eric - 27 Apr 2004 15:08 GMT
With all of the emphasis that Verizon is putting on their unlimited
mobile-to-mobile calling (In-Network "Are You IN" promos)... I have
often wondered why Sprint does not promote this as well.

We as Sprint PCS customers have enjoyed the option of unlimited
mobile-to-mobile calling for well over a year prior to VZW's launch of
the program.  I would think that it would benefit Sprint to run ads
saying that they not only offer 7pm N&W, but also unlimited PCS calling
as well.  I wish they would have promoted it last summer to drive up
subscriber numbers and use it in the WLNP war.

Eric
Bob Smith - 27 Apr 2004 15:29 GMT
> With all of the emphasis that Verizon is putting on their unlimited
> mobile-to-mobile calling (In-Network "Are You IN" promos)... I have
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>
> Eric

Good point Eric. IIRC, SPCS did promote it, especially in print but
certainly not as much as they have promoted the 7:00 PM N & W promo on TV.

Bob
Jim Catero - 27 Apr 2004 15:29 GMT
> With all of the emphasis that Verizon is putting on their unlimited
> mobile-to-mobile calling (In-Network "Are You IN" promos)... I have
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>
> Eric

 I agree , Sprint should take advantage of this, it's a great deal.
We get by on a 500 min. w 3 phones due to pcs to pcs, and usually have
min. left over.
I do wish they would go back to letting you buy roaming bundles though,
sometimes the 100 I have don't go far enough.

Jim
Rod - 27 Apr 2004 16:39 GMT
::   I agree , Sprint should take advantage of this, it's a great deal.
:: We get by on a 500 min. w 3 phones due to pcs to pcs, and usually
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:: Jim

Are you paying $10 for that 100 minutes? See if your area has the F&CA
option and pay $5 to use half (250) of your anytime minutes.
r2175 - 27 Apr 2004 16:50 GMT
> ::   I agree , Sprint should take advantage of this, it's a great deal.
> :: We get by on a 500 min. w 3 phones due to pcs to pcs, and usually
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> Are you paying $10 for that 100 minutes? See if your area has the F&CA
> option and pay $5 to use half (250) of your anytime minutes.

 nope $5.00 , i'm in an affiliate area so the 100 is all I get
Rod - 27 Apr 2004 18:05 GMT
::   nope $5.00 , i'm in an affiliate area so the 100 is all I get.

Well in that case I guess paying $5 for 100 with long distance is better
than $10 without.
Jim Catero - 27 Apr 2004 18:11 GMT
> ::   nope $5.00 , i'm in an affiliate area so the 100 is all I get.
>
> Well in that case I guess paying $5 for 100 with long distance is better
> than $10 without.

 True, it would be nice if they had the add on bundles like they used to.

Jim
Scott Nelson - Wash DC - 27 Apr 2004 15:45 GMT
I wonder how many of my friends have SprintPCS as a service?
Sprint does have the option but really, how many users actually use or need
it?
I know I could of used some minutes if I had the option but, as much calling
as I do, most of my minutes are to other providers anyway.

Even on my Verizon phone, I hardly use any minutes that couldn't have come
out of my regular minutes and not hurt me.
Last month, out of 1000+ minutes I used on my Verizon account, 80 of them
were MtoM.
With free N&W, MtoM becomes less of an issue is my point, I think.   ;-)

You also have to consider the network impact when making these kind of
promotions.
They have a fairly predictable calling pattern now.
Would adding the option, which is now 5 bucks I think, to everybody's
account for free change the network calling pattern?
It comes down to capacity really. The 'governor' has been make calls and get
off, during peak hours and you can keep your voice trucks clearer.
People who pay the 5 bucks or so for MtoM on Sprint I would guess are
business customers who call in their local area anyway.
It a wild guess but, bottom line is, there are a lot on angles to think
about before they offer these kind of deals.

Does that logic make sense?  ;-)

Scotty

> With all of the emphasis that Verizon is putting on their unlimited
> mobile-to-mobile calling (In-Network "Are You IN" promos)... I have
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>
> Eric
Eric - 27 Apr 2004 18:13 GMT
(Scott Nelson - Wash DC) wrote:
<<I wonder how many of my friends have SprintPCS as a service? Sprint
does have the option but really, how many users actually use or need it?
Last month, out of 1000+ minutes I used on my Verizon account, 80 of
them were MtoM. >>

I actually use my phone for other Sprint calls quite often.  Three of my
close friends use Sprint, as does my family.  It helps to know that when
they call, I don't have to worry about what time of day it is or how
many anytime minutes I have left.  It is mainly a promotional tool to
get people to switch I believe, but it worked in my case as I have had
three referrals because of it before VZW launched their program.  My
ex-gf was also on Sprint, so that helped in a sense that we could talk
anytime for however long.

Out of my 700 minute plan, I only used 560 minutes... but I used about
1500 PCS to PCS minutes, and over 1000 n&w weekend minutes.  So for me,
the extra $5 charge for unlimited PCS calling is really a great value.
For others, it may not be... but I am glad that they offer it.  A lot of
talking, I know, but a lot of it wouldn't have been possible without the
free pcs calling.

Eric
Central - 29 Apr 2004 23:10 GMT
> With all of the emphasis that Verizon is putting on their unlimited
> mobile-to-mobile calling (In-Network "Are You IN" promos)... I have
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> Eric

Bahahaha verizon's "in-network" as they put it is just a marketing ploy.
They have had it for awhile now, I setup some family phones for this
purpose a few months ago. All this in-network nonsense is their way of
promoting a different spin as a new idea without actually having a new
product. I find it amusing that alot of the people I speak with think this
is a new concept only because mobile2mobile wasn't really promoted like
this. At first when I saw the in-network ads I thought they were doing
something new and including all verizon customers (including landlines)
but that was not the case. Who ever in their marketing that came up with
this promo did a good job since now it seems like verizon practically
invented the concept with the amount of ads they are throwing around
without there being such a focus on the feature from their competitors.
Robert M. - 29 Apr 2004 23:20 GMT
> Bahahaha verizon's "in-network" as they put it is just a marketing ploy.
> They have had it for awhile now, I setup some family phones for this
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> invented the concept with the amount of ads they are throwing around
> without there being such a focus on the feature from their competitors.

yes, Verizon has been good at marketing and "Can you hear me now" makes
it seem like they unqiuely check to fill out their network.

On the other hand, Sprint advertising is often weak. I still hear TV
commercials with a voice over of "NOW INTRODUCING VISION".
Steven J Sobol - 30 Apr 2004 03:34 GMT
> Bahahaha verizon's "in-network" as they put it is just a marketing ploy.
> They have had it for awhile now, I setup some family phones for this
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> is a new concept only because mobile2mobile wasn't really promoted like
> this.

You're right, but the big difference is that with IN-Network you can get
unlimited mobile-to-mobile calling. Sprint customers, of course, are used
to unlimited mobile-to-mobile, but Verizon only just started when they renamed
the feature. It's free with a contract extension if you own a single phone.
To get it for share-plan phones costs $10 per account (not per line) per
month.

> this promo did a good job since now it seems like verizon practically
> invented the concept with the amount of ads they are throwing around
> without there being such a focus on the feature from their competitors.

Yes, it does. :)

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Captain - 30 Apr 2004 23:44 GMT
when i was with t-mobile 2 years ago they had the free calling between
t-mobile customers, hardly any wireless companies do anything new now.
Mostly it's who has the best way to make more money from the consumer.

Capt.
> > Bahahaha verizon's "in-network" as they put it is just a marketing ploy.
> > They have had it for awhile now, I setup some family phones for this
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>
> Yes, it does. :)
 
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